They are making it seem like illegal drugs this one lady says she was snorting it.
The hosts made it seemed as if it was fake and their other experts even compared it to a date rape drug and compaired it to an assault in NY saying it would make people do things they dont want to do.
They also brought up an issue saying oxytocin inducing labor in pregnant woman and the spokes woman for Liquid Trust said I dont know if it will do that.
Lisa the spokes woman also kept saying not to spray it on skin but on the clothes as to make it last all day long.
Dr.Paul Zauk said it was bogus because it wasnt enough dosage to truly affect the brain.
There was also another guy I didnt catch his name kept saying he wants people to push for the FDA to shut them down and press criminal charges on their company.
It was shocking to me all the things the so called “experts” were saying and comparing pheros to illegal drugs.
How do you think shows like this will affect the pheromone community? and what do you think about that show segment in general?
Damn damn damn,
My black behind would be the first one in jail, because if pheros are being likened to illegal drugs, well…I am already addicted to the ones sold at smartmone. Guess that makes them my pusher huh
I gots to have my fix…thats all I’m saying, and it really is true what is said about a drug addict, hell I have been robbing peter to pay paul and robbing paul to pay back peter, I’m losing weight cause I refuse to buy food and all this just so I can purchase more pheromones…hehehe
Well that lady from vera is not very eloquent nor convince, a pretty awful representative that they choose to send to a tv show! She seems be be confused too
But pheromones here are far from that oxywhatever… so there wont be any problems luckily for us!
That reminds me of a discussion we had here some months ago about the up- and downsides of pheromones becoming better known to the general public (I think it had to do with Androtics going public with a commercial version of Ammo). And this seems to prove the point that I had back then: if pheromones become too well known, there WILL be people talking so much b.s. about it - see the rape drug comment - that the bad press might eventually cause a ban of it. Of course we all know that this is not some bad drug, nothing like a rape drug (wouldn’t work as one even when some sick mind tried to use it as such) and not something that goes against free will - but a lot of people are narrow-minded and will say so…
I also saw the show but couldn’t really hear much because I was at the car dealership and the sound was turned way down.
However, Oxytocin; the active ingrredient in Liquid Trust is NOT a pheromone, it is a hormone. Also, it is intended to be inhaled, and is available by prescription as an inhalent, I believe.
Oxytocin is used to induce labor, and does so by encouraging stronger contractions. It also assists in lactation. And, it has also been proven to help newborns bond with the mothers.
Yep, possible and probably even likely, but they won’t confirm it or tell us which one it is.
I wanted to test AndrostAnone, and all I could get out of SteveO was that he asked Jasmin that question and she said one of the putatives is Androstenone, but wouldn’t say which one it was.
Thats exactly my point, even with all that said they compared it to a date rape drug and other people wanting to push the FDA to press criminal charges on them.
Majority of people wont know the difference between a hormone and a pheromone. The way the host made it seem “which made it even worse” was as a gimmick of influence. Most pheromones are marketed in the same way by having a product that sprays and can assist in certain effects. So in my opinion most people would think pheros and those types of hormones as the same type of product.
We have to remember the people watching are not members of phero talk but regular people who most likely think pheros are some scam and the way the “experts” made it seem it appeared dangerous. If I wouldnt have been a member here I most likely would have assumed that it was a scam and dangerous. So it might have a bad effect on pheros since I think most people will think its the same base products. If you guys have noticed more shows are doing segments on pheros just makes me wonder how it could affect the public views on it.
Well i have watched the video & i can see that they are giving a lot of negative comments like that doctor(Dr Steve Mac) that urge people from the audience to file to FDA to press criminal charges against LT, that’s serious or the other doctor(Dr Paul Zak) saying that spraying 40 sprays of LT won’t affect the brain & saying it’s a bogus. Even the lady host for the show say negative comments like ridiculous & sh** about LT which is a surprise to me there
I have to agreed with my buddy Mockingbird that the spokeperson for LT failed in her explaination & not convincing at all. A poor representative if you ask me
This is worrying me when i think about Androtics going public with a commercial version of AMMO & get well known, there will be people talking negative comments to it like what happened to LT in that video there. I’m just concerned about Androtics there
pheromones have been investigated on other more prominent shows like Dateline and 20/20 nd have passed with flying colors. The FDA wont do squat because you dont ingest them. They are not drugs, you do not need a prescription for them like you do oxytocin. They do not enter the blood stream, They do not make people do anything against there will so they can not be considered date rape drugs and this is all easily proved. We prove it every day right here on this forum .
I want to make this very clear, LT is not a pheromone. Not once in that segment did anyone say Pheromone. It is a hormone. Doctors know the difference and so does the FDA.
This is nothing new, you will always have those who talk BS or have misconceptions about pheromones. They can talk all the BS they want but the real question is can they prove the BS they speak. No they can not so its not something to really worry about.
yeah that was my mistake I meant to say hormone. My point was that majority of people dont know the difference between a hormone and a pheromone. I was just shocked at all the negative comments and how the hosts were basically mocking the product. I do know lots of major companies have already started promoting pheros like Victoria secret and other big companies but I havent heard much about a review or launch on that from them.
Or do you guys think it’ll turn into a stronger version of an axe commercial stereotype once it hits the national market?
Im just happy I found this place and got so much info or I may have been like many others and continued being a skeptic due to all the scams out there.
No offense Vivica, but I don’t think you give enough credit to people. Everyone I have ever met understands the difference, or at least a massive majority.
The thing is Oxytocin is a prescription drug and as such is already regulated. Not much really to talk about here.
Sadly, some people would feel educated on the subject after watching such a television segment of retard. That’s why if I lacked both soul and a conscience I’d develop a shoddy product or write some BS system. Then sell it on an infomercial. At least 8/10 are deceitful in one way or another, from slice machines that will fall apart, fitness equipment that will give you serious backpain, to investment advice that’s useless or can be readily found for free on the net in a library. People are so willingly open to the illusions being sold to them daily.
or the other doctor(Dr Paul Zak) saying that spraying 40 sprays of LT won’t affect the brain & saying it’s a bogus. Even the lady host for the show say negative comments like ridiculous & sh** about LT which is a surprise to me there 