Liquid Trust

I bought some Liquid Trust to experiment with. This is a product reputed to contain oxytocin. I tried moderate doses of one or two sprays a few times with no obvious results.

The other days I went to work with six sprays on. Still no obvious effects. After work I added 14 more. and went shopping. Still no obvious effects. Then after 40 minutes or so 6 more. Still no effects.

I was soaked in carrier after applying the 14 sprays. It was a hot day and I was in a car so it evaporated fairly quickly though.

Anyone else have experience with this product?

Yepp, I ordered a bottle a month ago and tested it at several occassions - with basically the same results as you: none. The bottle is currently on its way back to the manufacturer…

What kind of effects you are looking from L.T., Gone? From what I understand, the product suppose to creat trust or security (feelings) from others. I do not have this product, so I guess someone could comment on this.:slight_smile:

From what I understand about this substance, you must input oxytocin directly to the bloodstream to get results. A few molecules floating in air just won’t do. So, hold down your target firmly and spray it up her nose. The skin in nasal passages is thin enough oxytocin will absorb directly into the bloodstream. She probably won’t trust you much and after that, but what the hell.

With all that said, I foolishly bought a bottle last year. Any possible enhancement to trust or intimate bonding was too subtle for me to observe–same thing I noticed about IS! Actually I don’t think LT does jack diddle but I’m being polite today so I’ll stick with subtle.

At least the empty bottle makes for a pretty atomizer. I showed it to my GF and immediately got laid. I’m planning to fill the bottle with an Alter Ego homebrew clone.

Ironically the ad for this very product in the back of Popular Science is exactly what led me to this site instead, and to purchase some Androtics product instead of LT. Funny…I think I did a google search and clicked on one of the text ads. I never would’ve thought I’d click on an ad, and actually end up buying a product from that company…here I am, consumer whore at last.

EDIT: Yep. Here is.

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As I posted at “that other place” when LT was first introduced, oxytocin is extremely unstable when placed in liquid. It has a shelf life of hours if kept refrigerated. This all makes me wonder how the LT people “stabilized” it.:roll_eyes:

It takes about 4 sprays of the stuff sprayed on my shirt up and out towards each shoulder from the pecs.

I bought the 30ml size from VL. in Oct 06.

I usually spray it say 15 minutes before an important interveiw or an extra special meeting, Yes i have always stored mine in the refrigerator.

It seems to be enhanced when used with Scent of Eros.

I actually wore the LT x 4 sprays shirt outer front above each pec to an important interveiw and the woman repeated quoted these words " i honestly beleive what you are telling me"

It seems like the LT has effects in an intimate setting for a short duration of time and i think anything less than 4 sprays is a waste of time.

I would say that it does enhance other pheromones if enough is used but i will not be in a hurry to buy it again as as Gegogi has stated its effects are very subtle.

The cash would be better spent on some Scent of Eros or Instant Openness or Instant Honesty

I’ve been keeping mine in the refrigerator too.

I don’t know if it would make any difference after it’s been through an unrefrigerated shipping process though.

I was reading on another site of another spray on chemical that was not oxytocin but instead stimulated the release of oxytocin in the brain.

Actually, the use of a hormone like oxytocin as opposed to hormone fragments like pheromones is a little scary. The approach quoted is a little more comfortable than nasal ingestion of hormones, if it works. Right now it appears to be vaporware.

I tried a small bottle first and then baught a large bottle , I gave it ample test time and final results were nothing .

I tried various no. of sprays on clothes and skin , And the only conclusion i came to was if the product worked , The effects were very minimal.
I doubt I would waste money on another purchase .:frowning:

P.S At least I have two good atomizers out of the deal !:slight_smile:

Hi. I am new to this forum and website in general, so I’d like to introduce myself first. Yay. Ok so now that you are all under my pheromone spell…j/k of course.

I don’t know how old this topic is, but wanted to add my comment. I have bought 3 bottles of LT and I must say that I have found it to work amazingly. I do know that regular naturally occurring oxytocin does break down quickly, but this company uses a synthetic version that is stable. I know this because I had emailed them about it.

But that aside, even my wife commented how her sister acted different around me. Whereas she is normally uptight, she seemed much more calm when I used the LT and also was more receptive of ideas during our conversations.

I have also used this product just before meeting with clients, and there does seem to be a diff when talking with them while using LT. They are more open and it’s strange to see, but they sometimes seem a little confused about something. I am sure it’s because they are wondering what is going on in ther mind? hehehe

Well, that’s my take on LT. I know it works.

My question is, which of the products on this site mimic the effects of LT? I’d buy 10 gallons.

and you had no other pheromone products on at the time?

Nope. Only ones I had on were your’s truly. I really had interesting things happen while interacting with others. I am not kidding.

One thing I can say is that I needed to spray a lot of it on. I think I was using around 4 or 5 sprays when I left home, and then about the same once I got to work. That one story with my sister in law was very strange. I can distinctly remember her reactions when she was around me. My wife actually knew what I was up to and commented as soon as she witnessed it.

I think she even wants to try some of the nice mones for those times when she visits her parents. Let’s just say that they need to be more open to other people and be a little more calm. :o

I’ll continue this discussion begun on my intro threadby responding to Gone with the Wind here on his Liquid Trust thread. There is another Liquid Trust thread. And an early onequestioning the stability of Oxytocin.

I am amazed at the divergence of opinions on LT. Some swear by it, others say it is subtle and many experience nothing at all even in high doses.

I think it is about as subtle as a baseball bat up side the head. As I noted before, “I am short and left-handed; easy to be over-looked and left out. And I tend to be kind of intense, moody and somewhat introverted – not exactly the first one people would turn to.” So maybe something to encourage trust is more evident to me than to soemone who comes off naturally trustworthy.

I am also very empathic and have very good rapport skills. I was, at one point in my life, a very good crisis counselor. Perhaps LT gives people just the nudge they need to fall into my hypnotic web. Or put differently, perhaps the people who notice nothing from LT are in fact getting dramatic results that they just don’t know how to use and therefore don’t notice!

A314 is known as the “tell me what to do” pheromone. You are going to notice the greatest results when you tell people what you want. LT is just the opposite. You gotta shut up and listen. Go “Uh huh… and how do you feel about that” or ask a probing question every several minutes.

Someone said A314 doesn’t work with LT. I disagree. I think they work hand-in-glove, if you want a two-sided conversation. Without LT, some -nol product or something, A314 turns people into cold, obedeient robots, which is very effective in a work environment but needs balance in a social setting. [Disclosure: I am using the old version of A314 not the most recent update, which I understand has three more pheromones added.]

It is slightly different form the -nol products, less sensuous I’d say. I would use LT for a job interview or when I am going to be socializing with other (heterosexual) men. For socializing with women or in mixed company I like both LT and SOE together.

I use two to six sprays of LT. I carry a TOGO sized bottle with me. I find it lasts four hours or less. I have bought it from LS as well as Vero. I have not refrigerated it.

I have not noticed it to be tiring as a couple of peole have noted. I’ll pay more attention to that. Maybe carrying the TOGO sized bottle with me helps the eliminate a let down or maybe I just haven’t been sensitive to that possiblility before?

Oxytocin does indeed have the effects as stated by the site. I have read this in a published book on baby massages, the imprtance of baby massages, and how they release oxytocin which creates trust and closeness for caregiver and baby. This book was not trying to sell anything and had nothing to do with pheromones.

In a recent topic I looked at sombody stated that they had bought bottles from Liquid Trust, one of which had INCREDIBLE results and others of which had NO results. Two other people had the exact same experiences.

They have a guarantee but will not reimburse shipping. However due to the unreputable nature of the company I dont know if they would honor the guarantee.

I’ve sent my bottle back after trying it for 4 weeks and not getting any results. But I actually had to remind them that they have a money-back guarantee :smiley:

millwark and Warren: Since you seem to be regulsr users of the product, have you gotten any “bad” bottles as others have reported? It is possible they could have done something to stop the “bad” bottles.

I wonder is there any chance that refrigerating is hamrful, since Warren mentioned he did not refrigerate it and millwark having been new probably didn’t know of the idea to do so.

To Geogoi, is it possible you can send me a PM or e-mail with the link to that site which stimulates production? (For some reason my account does not allow me to SEND PMs… ). If it works that is probably a much better idea then LT.

And then the question about the bloodstream, to Geogoi or anyone else who knows. Oxytocin has also been formulated into pills under various names as I believe usually a way to counteraffect effects of aging or so they claim. So if putting Oxytocin in the bloodstrem, will that affect those around you (will you emit the hormone), or will it only affect you? If anyone even knows that information besides the pill companies.

Oops, I believe I accidentally replied to this quote in another LT thread… the question though was do you have a link to that site?

Unfortunately I no longer have that link. I suspect a google search on oxytocin and pheromone would turn up a number of hits though.

Oh, I already did the google thing :smiley:.

Has anyone tried their new product? I recently got an email of Verolabs telling me about a product combining oxytocin and some pheromones…