Warren

Hello all. :slight_smile:

I am delighted to discover this board and the outstanding talents of the moderators Tisha and SteveO. I’ve only started to experiment with April products and I already know at this point that at least a couple of them are outstanding. I’ve been using some other pheromone products for years. More on that below.

I was kinda surprised to see some similarities between my resume and Jasmin’s. I have a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology and a Masters in Management. I was taking workshops with Richard Bandler and John Grinder back before (and after) they even coined the phrase Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP). I did my time in California before moving back east.

I started using Winifred Cutler’s Athena 10X sometime in the 1990s. She wrote a book, too, entitled Love Cycles. It’s not about pheromones, but it was very interesting.

I used the Athena 10X for years, though it was fairly expensive. Compared to the things I am using now, the effects were quite subtle, but very real. Women noticed me more. There was more eye contact. I had a friend who tried it and had similar results. Rather than mix it in cologne, I poured it into a bottle and used a medicine dropper. I generally used one drop.

I have a female friend who tried the Women’s version of the Athena hormone. She believed she got good results and continued using it. I remember the first time she tried it. I had good reason to be extremely angry at her on that day. My anger just evaporated and I only felt loving passion for her. The sense of outrage returned when she wasn’t around (and we did eventually reconcile our differences), but the effect of her female pheromone on me was failrly significant. She had used several drops.

More recently I have been using Scent of Eros (Scent of Eros) and Liquid Trust (LT). The effects of these are so substantial that any effect of Athena 10X is negligible and I’ve stopped using it. I have also experimented with some heavy Androstenone products such as Alpha-7. I am a blood type O and I seem to OD on -none very easily. It will make me feel tense, nausious and unhappy. I don’t know how people react to me in these situations – I avoid them!

I have a weekly appointment where there is a middle-aged Chinese woman – somewhat older than me – who is the receptionist. For years she barely spoke to me beyond what was absolutely necessary. Then I started wearing Liquid Trust. She came out from behind the counter, sat down and started asking me who I liked better, Hillary or Obama! SO OUTTA CHARACTER!! The next time she brought out paper and pencil and wanted me to help her compose a letter (since my English would be better).

The Scent of Eros gets very positive responses from women and nothing negative from men. From what I read, this is a well established consensus. Perhaps someone can tell me which APR product is most similar to Scent of Eros (Ammo or Come Talk To Me Mix 2, perhaps). Well, one day Warren got the idea of putting a few inches of Scent of Eros on Little Warren. Warren has a close friend who actually carried out this experiment. He got prolonged and passionate oral sex that nearly killed him – in a good way! He’d known this woman for years and had no idea she was capable of this. James Vaughn Kohl deserves a Nobel Prize for this accomplishment alone. The elixir men have always dreamed of! Do they have a Nobel Proze for Pheromenes yet?

With Scent of Eros the acupuncturist isn’t all needles anymore. She finds more opportunities to touch me, carress me, even massage my shoulders, which didn’t happen before!

I like combining the LT and the Scent of Eros. I get lots of attention from poeple. It needs to be toned down with a little -none or A314. Then they are less likely to approach me unless they are serious. Otherwise, everyone is just chatting my ear off.

I’ve bought almost all the APR consumer products for men. I’ve received all of them. I’ll be testing them out gradually. I’ve started with A314. I’ll post more threads to report on my experiences.

Hello Warren :slight_smile: Welcome to the forum. Thank you for the compliment but it was all SteveO’s hard work.

SteveO will issue you your GC soon. He does them in groups.

We look forward to your participation in the forum. If you have any questions just ask.

Tish

Welcome to the forum War! Please give us some reports on your use of your new pheromone products. DrZorters

Warren, I’m Liz, and welcome to the forum. Hope you get great results from Androtics pheromones.

Great intro Warren, and welcome to the forum. You got my reps!

I wish I could compare Scent of Eros to an Androtics product for you, but I have not used it. I am sure one of the members will have experience with Scent of Eros though, and will drop by to offer their opinion.

I also used Athena 10X for awhile, and can attest that while Athena did generate IOI’s, Ammo is a far better product and the results are magnified.

Anyway, I look forward to reading future posts from you, and judging from your intro letter, I believe that we can look forward to a lot of great postings.

Warren, tell her to vote november 5, 2008 and she will be just fine.

Wellcome Warren.

Your experiences square with mine, except with the Liquid Trust, from which I noticed no effect. Maybe I’ll have to give it some more tries.

I look forward to reading of your experiences with some of the Androtics products.

welcome to the forums warren, you’re no stranger to pheros so you need no introduction from us! keep us posted on your reports buddy

Thanks for all of that information Warren! I know you will become a valuable addition to the pherotalkers community

If I were young enough to have been in grade school when the diagnosis became popular, I suspect I would have been stuck with the A.D.D. label. I am easily bored. And like many folks, I completely forget a person’s name as soon as I am introduced – except I am pretty sure I am worse with names than most people. Anyway I go to these monthly meetings where my participation is required. But my mind wanders off and I miss things – like when it is time for me to speak, which is kind of embarrassing. When I wear the Liquid Trust, I am much more “here and now”. It helps a lot. And people’s names stick in my head! It is really weird.

Gone with the Wind, I am amazed that you don’t notice anything with LT. For me the most obvious effects are as exemplified by the receptionist example above, but there is also the “here & now” effect. The results may not be as life changing as with A314, for example, but they are as stunningly obvious as a cold shower. Maybe you are just a more trustworthy individual to begin with. I am short and left-handed; easy to be over-looked and left out. And I tend to be kind of intense, moody and somewhat introverted – not exactly the first one people would turn to. (And yet desperate people will sometimes, knowingly, seek me out.)

Yeah, I’d say give it another try. I usually give myself four sprays on the tummy just before I put my shirt on.

I recounted some of my LT experiences here: Liquid Trust

How long do you find the effects you notice to last from the time you first apply the product?

You may be right about this just working for some people, based on their personal chemistry.

Funny. I’d have to agree and say that I would have also fit the A.D.D. label, had the label been around when I was in school.

On the Liquid Trust matter, I have also tried it. With my first bottle and first time around, I saw definite results, both in myself and how others treated me. However, when I ran out and bought another bottle, the second one seemed to do nothing at all!

I have read other posts from people who also had mixed results, and have wondered whether it may have had to do with poor quality control on Vreo Labs part, or them tweaking the chemical compound.

I bought some more LT recently from Vero and it seems to be good. Hopefully they’ve got their act together. I bought six for the discount and they included a very nice TOGO sized bottle.

I made another post to continue the LT discusson over on Gone with the Wind’s Liquid Trust thread, where it probably more conveniently belongs.

I feel sorry for people who are not a little ADD. I mean if there is nothing going on in your internal world more interesting than so much of what passes for modern life…

I guess maybe it’s time to try Liguid Trust again. The last time I used it was nearly 1 1/2 years ago, and I really did love my first bottle.

Hello and welcome Warren.

You know I’ve found that with some products out there the results varied so much from bottle to bottle that I questioned whether pheromones actually worked. I tried unsuccessfully for a long time to use products off the Internet and then I found this little brown bottle on eBay. I was truly amazed at the results.

Time after time that little brown bottle without a label worked. I was astonished by that bottle and what it did for me. After that it was all Androtics for me. I’m sure there are other companies out there that have good products, I do believe it’s a matter of finding the product that gives consistent results and sticking with it.

Anyway I wanted t welcome you and to tell you I’m sending you the GC tonight.

Hi, Warren, welcome!

Nice to meet someone with a NAME!

I completely agree about SoE. It’s fabulous stuff! My hub and I both get excellent responses, from men and women, when wearing it.

We wore it alot on vaca in the Caribbean. The new, smaller, easy to apply, one use gel packs smeared from inside of wrists up arms into pits.
Yep…lots of exposed skin, gentle breezes=great diffusion. (HELLO? AD, gel packs are the bomb! WE WANT GEL PACKS!!!)

Both of us wear it when we’re out. Let’s just say we draw a crowd, anyway.
With SoE, they were pulling up chairs! LOL. I moned up pretty good on a few evenings, but I’ll make a full report on that in my own thread.

As far as comparing SoE to Come Talk TO Me Talk 2. IDK.

Comparing SoE to AMMO…well, Wolf wears AMMO1.0/2x. I like it w/o IS, cause you can always add a little Instant Shine.

So, maybe for you, AMMO1.5 (I think it’s special order?). It has Instant Shine in it.
And if SoE isn’t shiny, I don’t know what is! 'cept Instant Shine, of course.
AMMO1.0 is sexy, and AMMO1.5 is sexy, shiny! You might want to stick with just AMMO/1x to start, which ever one you choose.

Wolf doesn’t actually put it ON ‘Lil’ Elvis…but in the vicinity is niiiiice…

my advice?..always keep your AMMO in the vicinity! LOL!

And don’t forget Instant female Magic. That’s a good one for smoothing out the prickly ones.
Also, AMMO and Instant Female Magic are a great combo.

Don’t know if that exactly answers your question but hope it helps…anyway, my nickle.

Bella