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Hello all, how’s your July going?

Mine’s going as planned, but that’s not as exciting as I’d like it to be. Sometimes spontaneity is a blessing once you get over the surprise, no?

Anyway, I’m a college student, male, early twenties and I live and work in Washington DC.

I was first introduced to the idea of pheromones in the late 1990s by an ad in the back of Popular Science for the Athena Institute’s pheromones for men and women which was unusual at the time, to say the least. I didn’t give them a whole lot of thought until a few months ago, when after quickly finding a limit to the free knowledge available on wikis and so forth, I found this forum. I read around for a while and promised myself to give it more thought when things weren’t so hectic in my life. That happens to be now :stuck_out_tongue:

I suppose I’m here because the idea of pheromones intrigues me. It’s well known the scent is the sense most tied to memory, so pheromone manipulation seemed to me to be a technology that would only advance with time. The field is a young one, which is surprising considering it stems from biology, one of our oldest sciences.

Obviously pheromones weren’t discovered by any one person, but still the date justifies that the use of manufactured pheromones isn’t that much older than me!

Anyway I’m young and sometimes confidence just isn’t forthcoming in a room full of women and men(competition) so I’m looking for a leg up. Not just in that arena, but primarily. I like to be social, but find it hard. I would like to walk into crowded spaces and be instantly at ease, but it isn’t a natural thing for me. Yet.

From what I read on these forums, liquid courage is no longer distilled and drank, but sprayed on like cologne. But that’s fine by me, as I’ve little taste for liquor. I’m a very confident person, especially when I can sit and type out my thoughts (like on a forum!!) but sometimes my thoughts race faster than my lips could ever form words. But I’m hoping AndroticsDirect can help me with that :wink:

The products I’m most interested in are IG, IO, and Ammo. I really like that these products are dosed and measurable to make experimentation easier. Products like the ones I used to read about were all potent concentrates, and it was left to the end user to create the dosage most suited by diluting the product with aftershave or cologne. This seemed to me like an unnecessary step. When I found you guys I knew I had found professionals.

I’ll be placing an order later this week for a few spray bottles. I’d appreciate any advice or links for application or usage of Androtics products. As I said, I’ve read around and understand the basics, but not enough to be anything but an amateur. The people reading an Intro forum are probably well versed in pheromones by now :roll_eyes: All advice appreciated.

Peace

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Welcome!

Glad you found this cool place!

Hi red, I’am from Germany and I hate the july, because we have a bad summer now, much colder as normal…

By the way, it’s a very big and informative instructions post from you. Just wait, Mickaelia comes in the next 24 hours and the $25 bucks gift certificate is yours! :wink:

Yeah, the good old and legendary Athena, it was also the first mone product I heard about. I not trying it now, but I read good things about it…

Cool, you found the right place here, it’s the biggest mone board anyway. The atmosphere is really nice and warmth and we are all very helpful.

I uses mones since 7 years now and I can say mones truly work. Good, first you need also good personality and social skills, but then are mone a really advantage, a tool. But you must be congruent with this stuff. A sexual powerhouse like IJ is nothing without the right personality. IJ is macho like, so you must be this typ. As a shy guy it is only a deliberate confusion…

Ammo, IG and IO all good choices. IG is great for younger women, because it give a more mature personality and a mystic attraction aura, but sadly out of stock now… Ammo is all-around, mature, sexual and social, all in all sexy… IO is the icebreaker, maybe try also IH for trust and depth. A good is Ammo with IH and IO and you have a sexy, depth, icebreaking combo!

Red, never diluting the Instant Line products together, it would break the mixes. Applied only one after another!

I would love to hear more about your experiences with the Intsant Line porducts in the future! :wink:

Best wishes!

Johnny

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Thanks?

Could have at least said tl;dr :stuck_out_tongue:

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Sorry, I need time to write the interesting things, because your intro is really big! :stuck_out_tongue::wink:

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Germans! Alright, if a german will use pheros for seven years, that’s enough recommendation for me. I suppose I shouldn’t generalize, but I drive a german car and, what can I say? I like german precision.

Anyway, as far as products go, I’m definitely getting Ammo for daily use. That seems like the best product to test OD and so forth. I want to get a few Instants as well for cross experimentation, but I think I’ll space out my testing over a few months, see how they work before I set into too much daily use.

I believe I understand congruency in that you have to act how you want to be perceived. Pheromones are not and cannot be magical. They only spur on the instincts already at work, both in self use and against the opposite sex. I’m not going to use IG in the middle of summer when I’m walking around in shorts and flipflops, for instance.

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Welcome redlion

Johnny gave you great advise ..

follow his suggestions …

Huch the good old Athena … this one was the first product i´ve bought .. memories .. memories …

I can only agree with Johnny that this here is a great Pheromone board with a lot of fantastic members… You .. Johnny .. ME of course … :smiley:

At the beginning you should stick to the consumer line ( i know there are some MX´s and Putatives and Experimones … that look really tempting ) as the effects as guaranteed and you have a one year money back guarantee included when you buy them

You´ve already said it .. most products out there from other companies do not come with any information provided how to use them and what to expect from them .. their marketing campaigns claim to have the highest concentrations … this won´t take you really far as you don´t have a good formula

however … you´re going to order here .. this is a safe place … and i think it´s going to become real fun …

you´re saying that you´re an amateur … hmm sometimes i still think the same .. and this about 13 years after i´ve bought my first product .. Athena btw… :wink:

sticking with proven products for the beginning is the best thing you can do … and you will have great results with them…

IG and Ammo and IO will give you a lot of fexibility to vary what you´re wearing and therefore you should be prepared for every situation !

you should get your goods within a few days after ordering .. as

AD offers you the fastest shipping on the net … i do not exxagerate .. it´s simply the truth ..

And Ad is a very generous Company … you will be surprised when your order arrives … they always put u in some goodies …

not to speak about the people who work there … John … Steve … Mick … the ones behind the scenes … Ben … Jacob … and others that we dont hear much about …

please do yourself a favour and check the stickies here at the intro board and in the men´s board ..

read this one as well ..
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How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum

Pheromone F A Qs**

you will notice that when you hover with the arrow over A314 for example some pop up with information pop´s up …

hope it helps and i wish you a lot of fun with your mones …and such great success like we have with them

Pago

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Hi Redlion!

Welcome on board.:slight_smile:

I had my first hits from a combo of Instant Gentleman and IS, 2 sprays each. Instant Gentleman is a great product, one of my favourites from the instant line, and the base for most of the mixes i try in my free time. In the workplace, i mostly go with A314, but out at night, IG is just great.

Now, the bad news: right now, IG its out od stock. Guys at AD say it will be back to the soon, but I don´t have an estimate time, so don´t know for sure.:frowning:

Anyway, you can give IG test pack a try: Instant Gentleman Variant Test Pack :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct. They are different variations of the product, so basically they should be the same. I´m planning to get some for me, because it´s one of my favourite products and maybe one of the test versions work even better…

Anyway, you can also get yourself some A314/b spray (not exactly the same as IG, although it´s also an androsterone based product).

I have always good results with mixing IS and IG at a 1:1 ratio, normally 2 or 3 sprays from each, so you may want to give it a run with A314/b instead of IG.

Adding a couple of AMMO sprays may be add some attraction.

Hope this helps.

Talk to you soon.

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Hey all! I have just placed my first order. I didn’t even wait for the GC; I’ll save it for the next purchase. Ordered a fullsize of Ammo, regular strength, and To-Go sizes of TUTH and IO. Would have been IG instead of TUTH but stock is out… :frowning:

I’m having trouble choosing which post to mark as best answer :o

I thought I posted a response to this…? Perhaps I didn’t send it through. Regardless, your personal testimony and others like it is in large part why I’m here. It seems to me that pheromones are somewhat of a secret. I see very few negative reviews. And the few I do see, are all one liners, e.g. “It dun work. I use twice” etc. There isn’t a single negative review composed after clinical-type testing that I’ve found on the storesite or the forums. Obviously there are some adverse reactions with ODing, and bad mixes or whatever, but that’s user error! Sometimes purposeful user error, but still :stuck_out_tongue:

What I’m getting at is that this stuff seems almost too good to be true. The ads don’t talk about congruency, but one look around the forums and that’s pure cake as well.

And thanks! Enthusiasts and early adopters make the market, in ANY market. Androtics is surely doing something right to keep all you guys around and posting.

Hi! It seems I wasn’t alone in reading those Athena ads back in the day. But look where we are now :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m glad my first purchase was from the consumer line. I think the effects have been quite well stated for most of the products. Although, you’re right, I was almost tempted by the Putatives and MXes :wink:

I imagine I’ll feel like an amateur for some time to come, but results will come. Given the right application of effort and time, results are just upticks.

I’ve seen a lot of positive response about the shipping from AD, which seems phenomenal, and there are quite a few understated comments about generosity as well. That sort of leads me on, but I can’t expect it if I’m not a paying customer, so I coughed up for my first order on blind faith :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve read the sweet spot article and understand the basics. I’m not funded in my research, so I doubt it’ll be that clinical :stuck_out_tongue: But I do expect to test each consumer line product individually before combining them.

Thanks for a thought out reply to a face in the sea of newbies here :smiley:

Hey there! You gave an informative welcome post, thanks!

I’m not so sure about A314 yet. It seems to me to have an almost cult following here, what with the hidden forum and whatnot. But I can’t speak against it before I try it I guess. It’s just that the ads describe respect and authoritaay like like they are necessary. I’m a college kid, I don’t own a full suit (but I do own multiple neckties) so I doubt I fall into the normal demographic for that product.

IS was my close second to IO. Starting conversations is the hard part for me. I’m good with compliments and positive attention when the dance has been initiated. Thus IO won out. I guess self effects should play a bigger role in my selection, but I can worry about that later :stuck_out_tongue:

As to the IG debacle, I would get the test pack, but that’s more of the experimental versions. I’d like to try the finished product (the one with a ridiculous guarantee on it) before I delve into the subtler arts.

I’ll be keeping a log and who knows? Maybe I’ll post it up here for other PheroTalk users to read :wink:

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Hey all! I have just placed my first order. I didn’t even wait for the GC; I’ll save it for the next purchase. Ordered a fullsize of Ammo, regular strength, and To-Go sizes of TUTH and IO. Would have been IG instead of TUTH but stock is out… :frowning:

Looks like it was way too tempting .. what you´ve been ordering is a good choice ..
IG will be back .. i´m sure !
And like you said … you not necessarily need A314 if you´re not into sales … you´re young .. and a student … Ammo is the best choice for you !

I’m having trouble choosing which post to mark as best answer :o

Choose the Player guy with the beautiful girlfriend .. he´s such a cool guy and he really deserves it .. :smiley:
he can hook you up with her female friends :smiley:

I thought I posted a response to this…? Perhaps I didn’t send it through. Regardless, your personal testimony and others like it is in large part why I’m here. It seems to me that pheromones are somewhat of a secret. I see very few negative reviews. And the few I do see, are all one liners, e.g. “It dun work. I use twice” etc. There isn’t a single negative review composed after clinical-type testing that I’ve found on the storesite or the forums. Obviously there are some adverse reactions with ODing, and bad mixes or whatever, but that’s user error! Sometimes purposeful user error, but still :stuck_out_tongue:

We all have our moments where we think damn it worked better the last time …or why does that stuff not what i thought it would do …and so on
But all in all with proper testing there are fantastic results that can be reproduced every time !

What I’m getting at is that this stuff seems almost too good to be true. The ads don’t talk about congruency, but one look around the forums and that’s pure cake as well.

If somebody would tell me today me not knowing what i´ve seen with my own eyes and what i´d get out of this stuff .. i´d tell him to drink less.. but it´s all true ..

And thanks! Enthusiasts and early adopters make the market, in ANY market. Androtics is surely doing something right to keep all you guys around and posting.

That´s true … they have the right products and the right philosophy and fantastic customer service

Hi! It seems I wasn’t alone in reading those Athena ads back in the day. But look where we are now :stuck_out_tongue:

Athena is not a bad product … the price is the problem and that you have to use it every day !
Things have progressed a lot .. Yeah

I’m glad my first purchase was from the consumer line. I think the effects have been quite well stated for most of the products. Although, you’re right, I was almost tempted by the Putatives and MXes :wink:

Stick with the consumer line at the beginning …
first you should see some results … some crazy testing can follow when you feel the need to a bit later ..

I imagine I’ll feel like an amateur for some time to come, but results will come. Given the right application of effort and time, results are just upticks.

I´ve read a report by a new member today that did get his stuff on Friday and hat the best weekend ever … it sounded like this in his post **
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I’ve seen a lot of positive response about the shipping from AD, which seems phenomenal, and there are quite a few understated comments about generosity as well. That sort of leads me on, but I can’t expect it if I’m not a paying customer, so I coughed up for my first order on blind faith :stuck_out_tongue:

you will get something for free even if you only spend your GC … that´s what i remember from many guys reporting about their first order coming in

I’ve read the sweet spot article and understand the basics. I’m not funded in my research, so I doubt it’ll be that clinical :stuck_out_tongue: But I do expect to test each consumer line product individually before combining them.

Absolutely right .. i see you´ve done your homework !

Thanks for a thought out reply to a face in the sea of newbies here :smiley:

ahmm err .. do i have to blush ?

Hey there! You gave an informative welcome post, thanks!

Johnny is a cool guy too but he dont has girls like i do

I’m not so sure about A314 yet. It seems to me to have an almost cult following here, what with the hidden forum and whatnot. But I can’t speak against it before I try it I guess. It’s just that the ads describe respect and authoritaay like like they are necessary. I’m a college kid, I don’t own a full suit (but I do own multiple neckties) so I doubt I fall into the normal demographic for that product.

You can get some A314 spray version for a few bucks if you´re really tempted to try it out …
but i think you´ve everything for a good start now **
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IS was my close second to IO. Starting conversations is the hard part for me. I’m good with compliments and positive attention when the dance has been initiated. Thus IO won out. I guess self effects should play a bigger role in my selection, but I can worry about that later :stuck_out_tongue:

RIGHT !

As to the IG debacle, I would get the test pack, but that’s more of the experimental versions. I’d like to try the finished product (the one with a ridiculous guarantee on it) before I delve into the subtler arts.

wait until the results are in … **
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I’ll be keeping a log and who knows? Maybe I’ll post it up here for other PheroTalk users to read :wink:

You should not letting us live without your journal ..

Pago

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Hi Red, the problem with the negative and positive reviews is, that the most guys looks only for the into your face hits, hair play etc., like with IJ for example. Yes it’s nice to see this, but what is then? Most women reacts more intimidating, or there is the last minute resistance… Things like IH are much more subtle, but effective. I don’t like for example IO, only in low amounts. I have no problems to talk to people, too much is for me more betaland time… Everyone is different, asian males can go much higher with none, the downside is (or also a advantage), asian women loves rone and don’t like none… Older men produce more rone and lower none. Younger men have more none and lower rone… Gays put out more socials… Everyone is different, sweet spot testing is the key.

So, have fun with Ammo etc. and if this stuff maybe not work for you, it’s pagodeiros fault. :stuck_out_tongue: Damn, he is also german… :open_mouth::roll_eyes::smiley:

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Welcome to pherotalk Red!

There are quite a number of reasons for bad reviews or not getting pheromones to work for you.

One was already mentioned but what you got to remember is that pheromones work but its not for everyone.

I hope that you already got your products and you are sharing your experiences with the rest of us.

Your gc was issued! :wink: