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So I’ve heard about pheromones, but until tonight, the only thing I knew about them was that axe, I think, claims that it helps you get women, or something along those lines, as they were advertising their new spray. I decided to research the science behind it, as well as the different kinds of mones(see? I’m already picking up the lingo) and what their specific effects are. As yall know, no research is concrete and nothing can be proven, and though a little disappointing, I have no problem with those odds. If these chemicals might make my life easier, I’ll spend a few buck to try them…I say a few, but I’m an experimenter at heart, so Im sure I’ll buy several different products before I start making conclusions :stuck_out_tongue:

About me:
I’m an 18 year old guy from the Dallas area, just starting college, and to be honest, I’m not any having problems with women. I’d like to think I’m at least partially attractive, I make good grades, I’m athletic, I’m a musician, I drive a racecar, and a bunch of more stuff that sounds good, blah blah blah. I’ve always been one to try new things, and figure things out for myself. An example of this would be the years I spent researching and fine tuning a cheap and easy, as well as EXTREMELY effective, skin care mixture. I now it apply nightly, and it works not only for me, but for everyone I’ve tried it for. If anyone is interested in that, pm me. So with that behind me, its on to my next project: pheromones…

The reason behind my dabbling in this subject is that there is this ONE girl, who I used to be with, and we ended up becoming just friends about a year ago for our own complicated reasons. More specifically, we stopped talking much and now we’ve become good friends again. Well… friendship just isnt doing it for me. I’m looking for that slight edge that will push this relationship along a little. We still have good chemistry, and we’re both physically attracted to each other, but go figure. I’m hoping that since my personal study will be isolated to one girl, I’ll be able to contribute some helpful findings to the forum. More importantly however, I hope something actually works.

I look forward to hearing from yall, and any recommendations for a first buy would be great. I know different products work differently under different circumstances, so please try to consider my back story in deciding on a reference. Thanks!!! :slight_smile:

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By the way, I just wanted to say I stayed up till 3:45 in the morning to do this. :slight_smile: I have to get up in 3 hours for work. But what can I say? This is a neat topic, and this forum really grabbed my attention. I look forward to hearing from everyone. I’ll be back on when I get off of work tomorrow. See ya!

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Hello there and welcome,
Well you sound like an interesting and well rounded guy. I might be interested in some good skin care :slight_smile:
The friend zone with or without mones is a very hard things to get out of either way. Sometimes they’re just not interested in more and mones aren’t going to change their minds. However some things that may help follow:
Ammo - this is a great social attractant. It’s sexual but also quite social so you can wear it just about anywhere. IS is a favorite for almost everyone here as it just makes you and those around you feel good and have a blacst. This gives off a young and playful vibe, while making people feel good. IO and IH are great because they get people comfortable with you and often chattty (especially with IH). I would give these a go and let us know how things go for you. This instant line IS pretty much proven and if you read reports on this forum you’ll see what I mean. They’re not love potions and wont work magic but they do increase your odds.
Let us know how things go!

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I “prove” every night I have sex with a new lady that pheromones work and work well too. I think you’ll be a believer pretty quick once you see just how amazing the effects really are..

Welcome to the forum

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I hope so. If I didnt feel like there was a little of truth behind the rage, I wouldnt be here, but I cant wait to see it for myself.

And I understand what you’re saying about the friend zone thing, but luckily its not quite as cut and dry; we’ve had our sparks of passion since the break up but, well its complicated. Regardless, I will share my results.

Also, I was browsing the androtics website and I noticed the experimone products. What are yalls thoughts on these? It seems like a good bang for your buck that I could just use with regular cologne, and I could really see the effects of each isolated pheromone. However, the description says not for beginners… :confused: Can someone link me to a thread that explains the “intricacies of pheromone chemistry”? I originally thought thought more pheromone = more results, but apparently thats not the case? Maybe its more scientific than i thought?

empath, I’ll pm you.

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Yea the experimental mixes, putatives and MX series aren’t for beginners really. We recommend getting used to the instant line and A314 and ammo first just to get a hang of what they do, how they feel and what suits you. Then you can start getting the tests and putatives and use them alone and write reports on them based on your findings. Anyone can get them usually but if you write enough reports you can get to reporting status after a while and they’ll get a little cheaper.

But yea more is definitely NOT better with pheromones. It’s a delicate balance. If you just got TUTH and sprayed half a bottle noone would talk to you and you might very well get beat up :open_mouth:

We recommend finding your sweet spot by just choosing one product and using one spray/drop for day one, then 2 for day two, then 3 so one until it has negative effects or the good effects you saw the previous day is not there, that is your sweet spot, then move onto another product. After that you can start mixing. Just make sure you report your findings!

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I hope some new users read this, because this will save you a lot of trouble. I’ve spent probably 15 hours or more, in the last day and a half, researching these pheromones. What I’ve found is, dont be stubborn. When people say dont dabble with the experimones yet, trust them. Though you may be able to create a good mixture if you do enough research and get lucky, chances are they arent up to par when compared to products like ammunition. Ammo has constant good reviews, and it apparently blends well with just about anything, in moderation, so this is a great foundation for finding your ideal mix. I strongly, strongly, strongly recommend that you purchase this first. According to some other forum members, its main active ingredients are androsteNONE, alpha androsteNOL, and androsteRONE.

AndrosteNONE can cause women to really want you, and it puts them in the mood pronto. You are established as the “alpha male” of the group, and that seriously turns a lot of girls on. Its can have some bad effects if used in high doses, like women becoming intimidated, men becoming aggressive, and being seen as a jerk, especially when a women is on her period, but these effects are able to be “buffered” by other pheromones that override these negative effects. However, the concentration of androsteNONE in ammo is balanced and buffered well enough that its EXTREMELY unlikely that you’ll see bad results.

alpha androsteNOL is a social pheromone. Its considered the ice breaker for conversations and gets people to talking. This is a GREAT buffer for the above listed mone.

AndrosteRONE will get you some respect and status vibes, and can make women feel safe and “protected” around you. Its not as sexual as androsteNONE, but it is still associated with women viewing you as more attractive and masculine/suave. This is the “gentleman” pheromone.

Just know that a lot of research has gone into the delicate balance/ratio of these chemicals, so leave it to the experts for now. Do a little digging as well, as many people layer their different mone sprays to alter the effects. For example, if you want more women to get turned on, on the spot, mix some ammo with tuth. Once again, more doesnt mean better in the case of pheromones, especially with androsteNONE, so be careful.

There are plenty of guides to help you get up to par with the wealth of info on this site. Stick to the “stickies” as they are usually the most helpful and informative. Theres a lot to learn though. Theres pheromones for just about everything it seems, even concentration, invoking clinginess, and “spacing out.” Good Luck!

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Great to see such an extensive break down of the -NONE -NOL and -RONE. Great work!

Have you had a chance to play with any of the socials or -NONE laden products?

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To be honest I havent got to test anything personally yet. I’ve just done about 20 hours of research, or more, over the last 3 days or so, and not solely on this forum. I’ve become very interested in the field and I’m learning all I can. I’m REALLY wanting to make my first order, but I’m waiting on that gift certificate. foneguy9, what was your exact join date? Have you received your credit yet?

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Hey Ruffin!

Joined on the 1st of Oct and got my GC on the 5th. I actually got a 50 instead of 25 so… that was sweet!:open_mouth: I also had already ordered Instant Shine Togo and got a Instant Openness as a gift so… that was sweet!:cool: Then, I ordered A314 and Instant Gentleman(applying my GC of course :wink:) and got a TUTH Togo as a gift so… that was very sweet! :open_mouth::smiley: AD takes care of their customers!!!

You should read HERE since Mickaelia is the one that makes it happen and send a Private Message to Steve O to check up on that GC for ya. I think for today or this weekend, possibly, Steve O can look over your thread and make it happen for you! :slight_smile:

Seems you are DETERMINED in your research of pheromones!!! What more have you found? I’m just learning more about them now with these products.

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OOOHHHHH! That makes me feel a lot better. I guess they’re just a little behind. The thread explaining how to get the G.C. made it seem as if you would get it within 24 hours. I dont mind waiting, but I was wondering if they forgot about me :stuck_out_tongue: I thought maybe mine didnt come through for me since I didnt have the box checked that allows administrators to email me. I fixed it whenever I noticed but it was almost a full day later when that came to my attention.

And how in the world did you get $50??? I heavily envy you ;D That would make my decision making process soooo much easier. I’m on very limited budget, so I was planning to get 1 (2 products max) thinking I would get a $25 card. But daaaang…$50? I would go ahead and get my third one! I’m wanting instant honesty first and foremost, and probably ammo for a good all around base, with either tuth, or a sexual putative to fill that roll. Trying to pick just 2 for now is really stressful. I would just get them all in to go bottles so I could afford more, but I hate the fact that theyre not as good of a value as the full size bottles. I need to get some more hours up at work D:<

And, if I were to go off on a rant about everything I’ve learned, we would both be here for a while :slight_smile: BUT, I’ll be happy to share anything specific with you. What areas or topics interest you? I’ve kind of tried to get a broad understanding of whats going on and then I’ve studied more heavily into the ones I think I might have more use for than others.

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What other products have you looked at? Are they at all similar to the ones provided by AD?

I have done some searching online but I couldn’t find anything as good with such good support!

Also, have you found any studies on LT effect of pheromones?

Whatever else you can muster to share, I’m willing to listen (read) :slight_smile:

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Before I found this site, I looked into a lot of the “hyped up” products, but thankfully I was skeptical. The only other company I have even briefly looked at that maintains the reputation of being of good, consistent quality, is love scent, but I definitely prefer androtics over them. When I say I did other research, I didnt mean so much into other products, because I was already happy with androtics. My other finding were just more reports from both individuals, and scientists, based on the different pheromones that interested me.

Oh wait…I did look into realm cologne and dial magnetic soap, both containing a-1. However, the amounts of the pheromones in them are so minimal that they are practically useless.

Long term effects: It doesnt effect your own natural production of pheromones, as far as we know. Here’s another reassuring piece of info from tacitus:

“I order my own blood tests, far more detailed than any doctor will specify, and throughout my history of using pheromones, and from the period before I used pheromones, there is no observable endocrine change in me, my PSA, DHEA, androgens, estrogens, SH binding globulin, progestrone, thyroid function,cortisol, liver enzymes, blood cells, all remain pretty much in their tight ranges, with some adjusments for nutritional supplements… in other words, no matter how much of the stuff I use, there has been, in me, absolutely not one iota of endocrine change…”

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Welcome to Pherotalk Ruff!

I “prove” every night I have sex with a new lady that pheromones work and work well too. I think you’ll be a believer pretty quick once you see just how amazing the effects really are

Wow, what more can I say than I hope your results are as good as these.

Your gc was issued.

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Excellent! Appreciate the leg work, ruffin! Did you get your GC yet or a response from AD?

Oops!! I just saw it above!!!

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Oh no!!! Mickaelia, does the G.C. come from a different email address than the one that updates me on when there is some activity in the post? I ask because I didnt get anything in my inbox. I changed some settings when trying to get the updates for the forum to come through without being blocked, and I unchecked a box in my email options that said “Automatically send suspected spam to my Spam folder” thinking that this must be my culprit for not receiving emails from an address I never marked as spam. However, when I unchecked this box, it apparently started deleting all my “spam” upon arrival.

Long story short, its not in my inbox, and if it was in my spam, its long gone… :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: Is there anything that can be done?

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Just send a PM (private message) to Mickaelia or call the 800 number, I’m sure they’ll replace it.:slight_smile:

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Oh dont worry. It was all taken care of. I got it about 6 or 7 hours after I wrote that and placed an order the same day, and its already here! :slight_smile:

More orders to follow. I was still a little unsure on what I was going to get and I wanted to do some trials before I emptied my bank, which was closed on that day too. I probably would have gotten more if I could have made a deposit. I only had a few dollars to spend. :roll_eyes:

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I didn’t know you swung that way! :stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue:

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I thought that at first too, but she’s actually quoting Steve. :stuck_out_tongue: Lol!