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I feel as if i have entered into a somewhat bizarre, but wonderful world of fantasies..! .. Fragrances that kindle attraction… Aromas that demand respect… Sprays that invite honesty..
It all sounds farr too good to be true!! And yet, with all these good reviews, how could anybody not take it seriously?! So here I am, another hopelessly enthralled customer, seeking to make my mark on the world!

Anyway, a bit about me.. I’m Lizzie, (..much to the dismay of my stubborn old parents, who in naming me ‘Elizabeth’ very much hoped it would remain that way!), i’m a 17 year old female from England, just discovering the joys of being a penniless student! :wink:
I am completely new to pheromones, and happened to stumble across their existence sadly only recently. A rather enthusiastic friend mentioned them in conversation, so i proceeded to do a fair bit of research on the subject.. And found there were a number of pheromone products on the market, each with varying prices, ingredients, and positive/negative reviews. However, these products all had one function, and one function alone - to attract the opposite sex. And in this, the sellers were not only confident, but adamant of the product’s success. I was sceptical. So as any sceptical person with a laptop would do, i hopped onto Google at once! And in doing so, i found this forum.. and the androtics direct website with all it’s brilliant products.. and i’m not guna lie, I’m hooked! There’s no getting rid of me now.. :wink:

So here’s the part where i seek all your wise and wonderful wisdom! Although I am here to gain an understanding into the way in which pheromones work, (being a prospective medical student I have a natural curiosity into these type of things), I am primarily looking to purchase some of these pheromone products for my own use. My problem is however, that they all look so good, i simply want to buy them all!!

I am not a shy person, I’m rather chatty usually, although i find some people challenging to make conversation with. I would like something that would make others feel good and comfortable about being around me, and something that will encourage people to approach/talk to me.. (like instant openness/honesty maybe?). I would also like something that will attract male attention.. (like instant sexiness, but it’s all sold out.. does anybody know when it will be restocked?).. I was also wondering whether any of the putative pheromones would have the same effects..? As they don’t have descriptions of their effects so I don’t know what they do!
Anyway, most of all, I would like something that would make me come across well in an interview/make the interviewer like me, (I am applying for medical school/University in September, and need all the help i can get!)

I’m so excited that i’ve discovered this forum and these products, i can barely contain myself! It is a pleasure to meet you all, and I very much look forward to your suggestions :slight_smile:

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**HI Lizzie

Welcome to our Communiy …we´re glad to have you here !**

English girls are a rare species here !

i can absolutely imagein that you´re excited about all the fantastic stuff that you´ve discovered now … sometimes it sounds to good to be true … but like you mentioned .. this is not a mass hallucination

As you´re still very young …hehe 17 .. and i don´t think that you´re name is that bad … it´s cool that you became interested in Pheromones

— you owe your friend a cup of tea … and some cookies :wink:

she seemed to gain a lot out of pheromones … have you asked her what she is using ?

We´ve all been new to Pheromones … some start now … i´ve started 13 years back .. but sometimes i feel like all this is new to me when i discover something new …

Way too many products out there for a newbee to choose from and to figure out what is good and what not …what is a scam and what is legit … and i fact there are some black sheeps out there …

but you found the right place !

Looks like you´ve already checked all the products on the store that you´re speaking in such high tones about them .. in fact AD has the broadest and best together working pallete on the market …

and the biggest support forum !

and the best Consumer service … !

You say that you want to buy all products ..are you sure that you want Instant Jerk :smiley:

just kidding ..

I see that you´ve done your homework and read up on the stickies and how to get the GC … and i think when lovely Mickaelia will read your intro she will send it to you quickly !

this way you can try some of the products .. spending less money .. ( and i know you´re young and you need the money :wink: )

would you mind to tell us how your friends tell you that you are … how do you relate to others … how are your social skills … you say you have somtimes problems in getting the conversations started

The way you describe your needs and considering that you´re not shy but you want to have something that gives you more chances with the boys and helps you with the interview you mentioned …

i think Instant Openness will work good for you … considering the problem with becoming more approachable …

A-nol is a good one to attract males… it creates an romantic vibe… ( it´s the main ingredient in IO )

there´s a thing for making people feel good and comfortable around you … have you looked into Instant Shine … this one you should get … it will make you and the ones around you feel really good … and it gives you a somewhat worm glow .. very attractive to guys … sounds nice huh

that´s the thing for the interview … combine it with the Instant Honesty and they will like you … love you … and trust you … !!

Instant Sexiness will be back soon as i´m told … John Sebastion ( that´s the good looking guy with the hat who´s the OPS Manager at AD ) said something about a huge restocking …

as for the Putatives … they are experimental … and i do not advise you to get some yet … get a feel with the social products .. and then you can dig into the advanced stuff …

it´s not that the Putatives and Experimones do not work ..they work quite well but they need still testing and there are no guaranteed effects … you need a bit experience to get them work for you … trust me .. be a bit patient … you´ll achieve everything you need with the products mentioned ..

i think you should stay on touch here and keep us posted

ahmm .. and Lizzie …

we´re excited that you´re here as well :wink:

Pago

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Hi Pago,
Cheers for your amazing reply!
Hahahaa rare huh? Ooh i do feel special!
Right so i’ve added, instant shine, instant openness and instant honesty to my order, (thanks for those great recommendations btw), but what strength do i get? Does double strength work even better??
As for my social skills, their actually rather good, i’m generally quite a confident, outgoing chatty kind of person, and normally starting a conversation is no big deal, but i think it’s keeping a conversation going that’s tricky sometimes..
And androstenol.. i’ve looked on AD, but what’s the difference between the alpha and the beta?

And i don’t know if my friend was actually using pheromones.. Ooh i shall have to ask her!

Cheers! :slight_smile:

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Hi Lizzie - Welcome to Pherotalk. :slight_smile:

Double strength is primarily an economy measure, they are not better per se - If you find your sweet spot to be two sprays or more, you can hit easier with double strength and have your sprays last longer.

Saying all that, there is much less of an overdose issue with the socials, so you can have a bit of fun with 2x and higher doses - However, it can get a bit giddy and tiring after a while if you top-up. This is where you need to do some legwork yourself to find your best doses and tolerance.

Alpha and beta androstenol are the primary ingredients of IO and IH - The main difference between them is the proportion. I’ve not had any great experience of alpha on its own but beta androstenol is happy/chatty/fun sort of feeling - A bit like a glass or two of champagne. Great for loosening tongues, inhibitions etc. :slight_smile:

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Hi mobocaster,
Thanks for your reply! So you suggest that I should start off with the lower doses? I guess i wouldn’t want to overdose..
And ahh i see, so beta androstenol is stronger?
I also wanted to ask, i’ve found an androstenol product on ebay, and it says it is 100% pheromones, and nothing else.. is this realistic do you think..?? And if it is.. will that not be too strong?
Thanks :slight_smile:

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Hi Pago,
Cheers for your amazing reply!

that´s only because of the avatar you´re using :smiley:

Hahahaa rare huh? Ooh i do feel special!

i know .. i´m charming … :wink:

Right so i’ve added, instant shine, instant openness and instant honesty to my order, (thanks for those great recommendations btw), but what strength do i get? Does double strength work even better??

i think you should get the normal versions.. if you discover that higher amounts work better for you ( and they not always do ) you can get them later ..

As for my social skills, their actually rather good, i’m generally quite a confident, outgoing chatty kind of person, and normally starting a conversation is no big deal, but i think it’s keeping a conversation going that’s tricky sometimes..

that´s the best preconditions to get amazing results with Pheromones … congrats !

And androstenol.. i’ve looked on AD, but what’s the difference between the alpha and the beta?

Research Oriented Pheromones Description + Product Value / Ingredient Guide

i hope this helps a bit … i know it´s a bit much theory …

And i don’t know if my friend was actually using pheromones.. Ooh i shall have to ask her!

Cheers! :slight_smile:

You´re always welcome

Pago

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Thanks for your reply! So you suggest that I should start off with the lower doses? I guess i wouldn’t want to overdose..

**you´d not get an overdose per se …you´d not find your sweetspot ..

it´s here by SteveO how to figure out ..

How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum**

And ahh i see, so beta androstenol is stronger?

b-nol is not stronger …it´s differnt .. A-nol promotes more quantitiy of conversation … b-nol promotes quality **
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I also wanted to ask, i’ve found an androstenol product on ebay, and it says it is 100% pheromones, and nothing else.. is this realistic do you think..?? And if it is.. will that not be too strong?
Thanks :slight_smile:

how should this work … it would be wite crystalline powder …

looks not really serious to me … stay away from those kinda offers !

and the price would be ridicculous high … ( more than gold )

Pago

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Not exactly stronger - All pheros send different signals and have different effects and these can become apparent at different doses.

It is generally a good idea to start off with the 1x - at least till you have found your way and got an idea of dose/effects - on yourself as well as others etc.

Also remember that where pheros are concerned, less is very often more - You want to send a subtle signal, not induce neural overload!

As for Ebay - really - steer well clear! There are so many fake or grossly mis/oversold products, from vendors who don’t give a shit for anything other than the money they make. Stick to the reputable firms - It won’t take you long reading here to find out who they are and IMO, AD knocks spots off all of them for reliability and customer service.

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Haha okais, point taken, i shall stay clear of ebay!
Thanks for those links pago, i’ve just been reading them all, i’m actually really interested in all the theory stuff, so much appreciated! And hahaha you are indeed charming :wink: I’m in love with my avatar too! :stuck_out_tongue:
And thanks mobocaster, i shall start off with the lower doses then.
Am i able to wear B-androstenol and A-androstenol at the same time.. or would that be too much androstenol?? Also, would i be able to wear instant shine, openness and honesty all at the same time if i wanted to? Or is it possible to wear too many pheromones?!
Thanks :slight_smile:

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Haha okais, point taken, i shall stay clear of ebay!

good girl !

Thanks for those links pago, i’ve just been reading them all, i’m actually really interested in all the theory stuff, so much appreciated!

I´m gonna look into what i can find what´s useful ..
i have a few more ..

And hahaha you are indeed charming

i look a bit like Mafia … but girls LOVE bay boys :wink:

:wink: I’m in love with my avatar too! :stuck_out_tongue:

oh yes it´s very cute !

And thanks mobocaster, i shall start off with the lower doses then.

you can trust Mobocaster … he gives always very good advise !

Am i able to wear B-androstenol and A-androstenol at the same time.. or would that be too much androstenol??

**o.k …

you can wear A-nol and B-nol at the same time …of course … they will work good in synergy …

there was an experimental product by AD in the past that was called CTTM2 ( come talk to me ) and what was somewhat 50% A-nol and 50% b-nol with some other steering molecules …it was a general conversation enhancer
you can mimic it´s effects by simply using 1 Spray IO and 1 Spray IH

tatatata … CTTM2 mimiced

( they have set up a new test pack .. but that´s only for information now )

as you can nearly not overdose on Instant Honesty … o.k. it will give a good buzz ( i´ve went up to 25 Sprays … huuuhh did i reak of Neroli ..but i´m curious ..and all in the name of science you know )

there are no bad effects on others …

with IO … if you put on WAAAYY to much you will be perceived as a bit annoying ( i think that´s due to the overstimulation )
it´s somewhat like a boring kid ..you know this kinda situations .. **

Also, would i be able to wear instant shine, openness and honesty all at the same time if i wanted to? Or is it possible to wear too many pheromones?!
Thanks :slight_smile:

Of course could you wear IO + IH + Instant Shine at once … it will work quite good ..but first .. sweet spot testing … PLEASE

It´s possible to wear to many Pheromones … Overdosing is caused by them

that´s no drama with the more social products … but with some sexual products for the guys which contain None this is a huge Problem

Pago

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Yes - you can wear the androstenols together but TBH, that would seem self-defeating as IO and IH are already based on the same thing - Too much androstenol can easily get a bit giddy and leave you (mainly) and your subjects feeling a bit drained after a few hours. Which is often no help at all.

There are different opinions on the complexity of mixes - Broadly, I tend to the opinion that a small well chosen mix (maybe four components max) is often more effective/direct than a complex one - unless you know your targets very well and have tried to tailor it to them. Take a bit of time to learn the basics first. :slight_smile:

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Hahaa thanks Pago and Mobocaster, some great advice there, i shall definitely keep referring to this thread to remind myself in the near future!
You don’t happen to know what pheromones are in the instant sexiness one do you?
Anyway, i’m off to bed now, in England it is 12.10pm, so i shall see you all in the morning! :wink:
Many thanks all :slight_smile:

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Hahaa thanks Pago and Mobocaster, some great advice there, i shall definitely keep referring to this thread to remind myself in the near future!

I expect you to keep on track :wink:

You don’t happen to know what pheromones are in the instant sexiness one do you?

Instant Sexiness A is mainly TAL … this will not come back !

Instant Sexiness B is mainly TAH … this will take a bit to come back !

Anyway, i’m off to bed now, in England it is 12.10pm, so i shall see you all in the morning! :wink:
Many thanks all :slight_smile:

here it´s late too.. hehe … i´m in Germany …

good night ..

hear ya tomorrow

Pago

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Ahh germany.. Wow, you speak very good English!
I just remembered one more thing, what does IMO stand for?
Thanks again, and sleep well :slight_smile:

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In My Opinion - One thing to remember here is that we all have differing factors that affect our phero use and its effectiveness eg age, personality,body chemistry and social outlets. Then our subjects have all the same factors that can affect their responses to our pheros.

So there is no complete right or wrong and any advice we have to give has to be qualified by the fact that your circumstances might elicit a very different response. So that’s all part of the learning process for you - and have as much fun as you can doing so. :slight_smile:

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Morning all :slight_smile:
I was thinking, can I wear turn up the heat? Or will that just attract women?!

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You can - And some women do but more to enhance their own sexual pleasure. Better to find an excuse to spray some on a guy just before you get into bed.

If you are thinking in that direction, also have a read-up on TAC or Molecule-C - This has also been found to enhance orgasm significantly.

Otherwose wearing TUTH may make you appear a bit butch or agressive to some men and TBH, gay women are more or less attracted to the same phero sigs as hetro men, so you may find them repelled by an overtly sexual none sig.

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Hi Lizzie …

what do you expect from wearing TUTH …

do you want to wear it in more intimate encounters … ?

a tiny bit None on a women is sexy ..

some women have experimented with TUTH …

i´m not the specialist for None on women … soooo

post this on the women´s board ..

or you gimme a bit time and i´ll search for you

Pago

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Welcome to pherotalk Lizzie M!

The putatives and experimental mixes we dont’ usually encourage the new members to try out because we are still testing them out and we not 100% sure what they do.

In addition, with the putative it is non refundable.

You can do some reading as to putatives like p83, p74 which brings great results and some of the mixes like mx397 and mx398 to see if you brave enough to try them as a newbie.

Some persons do with success.

Your gc was issued! :wink: