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I am a 22 year old male in the United States. I stumbled across your site when I was searching about the effects of testosterone levels on pheromones.

I’m a bit on the quiet side and there is a certain someone who I especially admire, but I’m far too nervous to approach or speak to her. I want to get to know her better and maybe in the near future ask her out on a date. I am hoping I might overcome this dilemma with some help from these products.

I am quite a traditional guy, just trying to overcome my quiet self and find out if I could be that special someone in her life. If she accepts my date request (and future dates) and genuinely likes me I am hoping for a slow romance. To be a bit more elaborate, I guess I’m trying to say I want her to notice me more and think of me as more than just a friend, while not getting too seriously intimate right away. I’m not the type to rush into things I believe should be saved for marriage. Anyways, what are the chances she’ll actually like me? I guess that’s all it comes down to.

So far I know if I made a purchase I would definitely buy some IO. However, I’m still a bit hesitant to order. I guess I am still in the “hard to believe it will work” phase. I’m a bit skeptical about these products. It feels as if I’m trying to influence someone to my preference or control, and I don’t know yet if I’m okay with that. Can anyone offer some insight on these guilty feelings I’m having? Is my reason for wanting to use these products reasonable and ethical?

Otherwise here are some other questions I have:

What items would you recommend for this situation? Any mixtures?

I saw there are spray pheromones and pheromone oil. Is one better than the other or are they both the same in terms of effectiveness?

In the “Advanced Researchers and Serious
Enthusiasts” section there are so many different products. The products listed didn’t seem to have much if any definitions as to what they are and what they do. Is there a guide to what each one does and how to use/create different mixtures?

Where would a beginner start if interested in pheromone chemistry?

Are there any other manufacturers of pheromones besides Androtics Pheromones that are worth looking at?

Apart from the reviews, do these products REALLY work?

Finally, I’m sorry if I rambled too much, just wanted fill in the gaps of why I’m here.

Thanks.

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Hey smarks, welcome to the forum!

cracks knuckles Let me see if I can address your concerns…

You mention you’d like to get to know this special someone better. Does this mean you’ve already broken the ice with her? Are you two on an acquaintance level already, or do you still need to make that step? IO is a great ice breaker. Given 10-15 minutes around your interest, it’ll open up the lines of communication and get people talking. Unfortunately, the talk can turn into dribble since IO is more of a “quantity” focused product. Not all bad though! If you know what to expect you can help steer the conversation and keep it on topics that are of use to you. If you’ve already broken the ice, and talk a little more regularly, shift to Instant Honesty. This will create a deeper rapport, more meaningful conversation, and a sense of trust. Being that you’re a traditional man, I’m sure you know the worth of a good conversation…

In terms of your reasonable and ethical concerns I’ll say this. Pheromones cannot Make anyone like you. They cannot Make anyone sleep with you. What they can and likely will do, is help give you that edge. If you approach this girl and she finds you moderately attractive and a nice guy, by wearing the correct mones, her perception of you could shift slightly and she’ll now think of you as quite attractive and a standout from the rest. Make sense? If she doesn’t find you attractive without mones, she will not find you attractive With them.

Pheromones are the kick in the pants. You have to continue walking after that initial jolt.

Beyond that, you have to decide for yourself if having a little help in your corner is beyond your personal ethical boundaries. Since your body already produces pheromones naturally, on a daily basis, for the exact same purposes, I find that carrying them around in a bottle is Convenient. Not immoral.

I recommend looking into the “Killer Newbie Kit” for beginners. NEWBIES READ HERE: The Ultimate Pheromone Introduction Pack It has a to-go bottle of every item in the consumer line. All the instants: Ammunition, Turn Up The Heat, Gentlemen, Honesty, Openness, Shine, Jerk, as well as a314, and they’re discounted buying them in the kit.
Which brings us to your next question. Oil vs spray. Currently AD only offers a314 in oil. It’s expensive (and worth it), and it’s meant to be used in situations where a user can spend some time to establish the signature. Mainly a workplace environment. It’s a slow burn product, and takes a little time to sink its claws in. The sprays hit harder and faster and are a better choice for situations where the user doesn’t have as much time to invest.

The advanced products you saw are Putatives, Experimones, and Experimental Test Mixes. These are best left until you get a grasp on how the consumer products work for you. These are all still in testing, and AD relies on testers to report back on what effects they feel/see when wearing these in different situations.

There are a couple however that I don’t hesitate to recommend reading about, as I think they could be of some use to you. p74 and p83.

As mentioned above, for a beginner I would suggest the newbie kit if you can swing it. If not, then I’ll narrow it down to these products. Ammunition Summer Edition, Instant Openness, and Instant Gentlemen and Instant Shine. I think based on your personality type, Instant Gentlemen might suit you very well. It’s like a Mr. Nice Guy James Bond in a bottle. Gives the user a confidence boost, and creates a respect/status yet easy to approach vibe for others. If this seems like something this girl would be attracted to, I’d suggest giving it a test…

You can mix many of the products together, and most work well, though there are some downfalls, so I urge you to browse and read the Sticky threads on mixing. In your case, Instant Gentlemen mixed with Instant Openness and/or Instant Shine would be excellent.

I will decline commenting on other manufacturers, since I’ve only ever ordered from AD, but yes there are other reputable companies out there. Namely PheromoneXS.

Yes, these products work. The key here is you have to Work With Them. You need to project yourself as the type of person you want to be seen as. If you’re acting standoffish and unwilling to talk, then no amount of Gentlemen and Openness will help. As mentioned… they’re based on science. Your body already produces these naturally for an intended purpose, so why wouldn’t spraying a little extra on in the right situations not also work? AD offers an incredible return policy, so there’s really no risk to try these out. You could drain a bottle and return it for an exchange or full refund if you feel it didn’t do anything for you.

Finally, rambling is good! Don’t be afraid to post questions… Everyone here is very tolerant and always willing to help. I Do strongly suggest reading around though. There’s a plethora of information already on the site, and chances are a lot of future questions can be answered with a Search.

Post back with your thoughts!

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Hello and welcome to the forum. Step 1, if you can’t approach her and talk to her then pheromones aren’t going to do much for you. They aren’t magical, they will help sure but you still have to be able to initiate the contact most of the time.

Step 2, I’d worry less about her right now and worry about confidence. Get some Instant Shine, Instant Gentleman and perhaps Instant Openness. Get used to how each one works on it’s own, then combine them, go out and start starting up conversations with random girls. Find a bar in your area that’s fairly relaxed, find women in groups of just women and go strike up a conversation. Worse case they walk away from you. You have to get used to talking to people, especially if you like them.

Other sellers, yes there are many… how well they work I don’t know I’ve only ever had luck with Androtics. Do these work? Yes, I’ve a respectable online presence and personally vouch for the products in my signature. I do not give anything my endorsement unless I’m 100% behind it, I will very openly and publicly tear apart a bad product.

Interested in pheromone chemistry… well you could start on PubMed Home - PubMed - NCBI just search for pheromone or pheromones and there are tons of studies on insects and animals, probably some human ones too.

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Thanks for the quick response!

As of now, I haven’t officially broken the ice yet. We see each other around at least once a day, and she is very friendly. We usually say hi to each other, but it never goes any further (usually because I’m walking by on an errand). I can’t really tell if she feels slightly attracted naturally to me or not, and it tends to hold me back.

Before writing my intro post I stumbled across your Fallout Thread and it seemed pretty in depth, and that’s where my concerns sort of kicked in. I definitely feel a lot better about this now that you’ve explained how it actually works. Your thread was very interesting and got me curious about the pheromone chemistry aspect and the advanced section. It seems like you really know your stuff! Right now I wouldn’t know where to begin with mixing and all that, although I do feel a lot more at ease about making a purchase now thanks to your excellent reply.

In terms of projection, I can certainly project myself the way I want when I put my mind to it, but I wanted a little bit of insurance to hopefully make my first impression on her more positive. I know it may not work as intended… I see on the threads that all women are different and don’t respond as we hope they would. I really just want to improve my chances of attracting her if she does in some way feel slightly attracted to me.

I will definitely look into the items you suggested. I usually only have a half hour when I see her, but we are both doing work, and I can’t talk to her unless I get done a few minutes early.

Thanks so much for understanding and lending me some much needed knowledge! Let me know if you have any more suggestions regarding what to use. I will keep browsing the threads for new information. I look forward to reading more on your Fallout thread (and journal) if you continue to update it (even though you mentioned you’re leaving in January). When I decide on what to get and test it out, I’ll try and update how it worked out.

Thanks again!!!:slight_smile:

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Thanks for welcoming me to the forum and your response!

Yes, I understand your comment about the approach and talking to her. I can definitely strike up a conversation, it just takes me a while to get the nerve to go through with it.

I agree with you fully on the confidence aspect. I’ll have to push myself to pass my comfort level and become more experienced.

Thanks for your opinions on other sellers and if these items really work. I feel very good about making a purchase based on your endorsement of this company.

I will definitely look into the pheromone chemistry information you suggested and appreciate your insight into which items would be best suited for me.

I look forward to reading more on your threads and learning more from the other numerous threads!

Thanks so much!!!:slight_smile:

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I appreciate the kind words, glad you’re able to take something positive away from my reports. I can’t tell you how much time I spent reading and literally Studying the information here. How each product is supposed to work, how they work together etc, and i’m just scratching the surface…

Start small, focus on a few products until you can get a grasp of them and how they work, then expand slowly.

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Welcome smarks,

This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will.

I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie.

We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually.

It takes a great deal and I am back logged.

I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to

In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service.

Thank you for giving pheromones a chance.

Your gc was issued!

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I hope you come back sometime, smarks. We could use a few good men like yourself. How did your experiments go?