As a stand alone product, what is everyones opinion in comparison between these two in a sales-work type of environment?
Go with A314. LT will give everyone (including you) talkiness and trust, A314 will give you respect. Which will increase your sales most? Go with A314.
I emptied a bottle of LT and got zip. If it worked the results were too subtle to notice.
I guess ill try out Alpha A314 then. It seems to get endless good reviews.
Works great. Help imparts a gentle “fatherly” alpha vibe. Perfect for maintaining a chain of command in work environments without assorting to being an overbearing a-hole.
It can work well.. I really recommend a314 (well I’ve mainly used mutant so far).
Yeah be careful with LT i’ve tried spraying it everywhere and it still gets me.
Search for posts by Scottie2Hottie. Here is one where he mentions his incredible success with MX172 (the current A314 is an oil interpretation of MX172 and being in oil form it lasts longer) combined with MX136 (which is a version of Instant Shine). Check out his first post.
A314+IShine+IH is still considered to be one of the best work/sales mix.
LT was a total dud for me but one product called mysticalm (also based on oxytocin) is working slightly better although nothing compared to A314.
As far as any product based on oxytocin, I’ll again express the same doubts that I expressed when LT first showed up on the LS site. Oxytocin is made up into a liquid form in hospitals, and has shown to only be stable in that form for a few (refrigerated) hours. I have never seen any explanation from the manufacturers of LT (or any other product) as to how they managed to stabilize their products in an unrefrigerated liquid state for extended periods of time.
Seems that they could make a fortune making the Oxy. products for hospital use and totally avoid the retail market all together.
I wonder too, but there is so much that we don’t know. If there is money to be made I am sure the companies would try to keep their methods a secret. Either way I keep my bottle refrigerated.
During my initial use I kept spraying it around the house since I liked the vanilla smell and my female roommate suddenly started to make short trips to bathroom a lot more often but she went back to normal after about 2 weeks. No such effect on me but I noticed my days were slightly calmer and better when I snorted it the night before or during the day.
The oxycalm makers suggest their main product oxycalm as self medication to get rid of smoking habit among other things.
On the side…outside of the LT and A314, how does anyone think that Instant Gentlemen might do in as far as helping me perceive to be older and wiser than I already am?? Note that for my job, its jewelry retail, so i would guess this might help me out in the age dept considering I am sorta young i think in most people’s eyes for high-end retail. Respect and trust im sure are extremely good in jewelry retail but i feel that charisma and persona are more important…but authority is always a biggie id guess
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As far as any product based on oxytocin, I’ll again express the same doubts that I expressed when LT first showed up on the LS site. Oxytocin is made up into a liquid form in hospitals, and has shown to only be stable in that form for a few (refrigerated) hours. I have never seen any explanation from the manufacturers of LT (or any other product) as to how they managed to stabilize their products in an unrefrigerated liquid state for extended periods of time.
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Sorry for necro-ing this thread, but I remembered reading this a few days ago and recently some oxytocin arrived (Liquid Trust - vero labs).
I’ve kept it in the bathromm, not the fridge, and today I used three squirts on my hair and hands.
Within 30 seconds something happened. Its hard to say exactly what - it felt I’d lost 30 IQ points. I had to take extra special care not to bump into things. That is, there was a distinct physical effect that I could feel. I was merrily making my way down a darkened hall full of stuff and I’m lucky I didn’t fall over things.
Best way of describing it was - it made me dopey. Like one of those pre-meds they give you in hospital or a puff on some grass. I don’t like feeling dopey so I’m going to keep it away from my face in future.
But something was happening. If I had carried on getting worse I’d have needed to rest, but it faded, or I got used to it.
But whatever. It certainly does something and the ingredients list nothing but alcohol, Oxytocin and water.
Spray alcohol up your nose and you’re bound to feel dopey!
I was experimenting with the LT for a short time which then also led me to find out about phero’s.
The LT works, but it requires a lot of product. After four sprays people want to do things for you. My ex-wife offered and painted the entire upper floor of my house. This was right after a good friends four daughters offered and then painted the entire ground floor of my home. I should mention I’m extremely fit, and realy didn’t need or even hint at recieving such charity. This is just two of the crazy and many LT experiences I’ve had. But the “dumbness” downside is a negative that one needs to be aware of.
As a part time musician who has to rely on having an extensive and reactive split second recall memory, I can say that LT made me temporarily stupid.
If oxyticin is released in the brain during sex, it explains why the wrong people trust each other right up to the “I do’s” at the alter. Duh.
But, after getting many perks comming to me at work using just the oxytocin, I have to admit the LT works.
Now after a couple of months with A314, IS and LT I’ve recently recieved two offers of 170K packages from two different companies, one of which I have taken, not to mention a considerable following amoung the masses in the industry which I have devoted my life to.
These products have opened doors, and my talent now takes me wherever I wish to go.
I take a half empty bottle of LT and drop about ten drops of A314 into it. Three sprays of the mix behind the neck, one more drop of A314 to both wrists to smell during the morning commute. Two or three sprays of IS to my front neck and I’m good to go. I repeat after four or five hours only if needed.
I also calculate my ex’s pms cycles and use a combo of LT and IFM during any times of contact with her, especially when transacting child support payments to her.
so, does LT makes the wearer stupid?
I think it is more likely you were feeling the subtle pleasure and comfort effect of oxytocin, thus temporarily cut out from the outside world. It has been said many times before that one of the reasons oxytocin doesn’t work well is its molecular weight which hinders diffusion. Hence, it is reasonable to say the wearers would experience the most effect. Luckily, its effect is short lived. Also, the paint stripper smell is horrible. But no, I think you weren’t losing your IQ.
A314 is the GOD of pheromones, in my opinion.
Does it mean one has to wear A314 all the time?
Ofcourse not.
PS. A permanent spray version of A314 would be nice though for short terms.
PheroProof is da God o’ PheroGods den!
I like A314 for work: mellow, subtle yet fosters good communication and helps maintain order in a chain of command. Imparts a nice “fatherly” alpha air. Those under you feel that you’re the boss but without the asshole vibe other alpha enhancers give. Not the sort of vibe you’d want for parties or dates, but great for work.