Hey everyone. First I want to introduce myself and then ask a few questions.
I am a 19-year-old Asian male living in Arizona. I am curious to test pheromone products and see if they work for me. I recently stumbled upon an ad for Liquid Trust in a magazine. This led me to their website and subsequent research has led me here. Here are the things I want to test.
Whether or not the products will work for me.
If long-term use and skin contact will affect my natural body chemistry.
If the placebo effect plays a significant part in the product’s effectiveness.
My questions are:
Is airborne oxytocin (Liquid Trust) as effective as oxytocin released by the brain or as effective as an intranasal administration?
I live in Arizona. Should I buy the spray products or oil-based products?
How long can I store the products? Is there an expiration date? and will the ingredients begin to decompose?
Will adverse conditions during the shipping process destroy my product?
I read that Asians produce different amounts of natural pheromones, or that something in their natural body chemistry alters the effects of the pheremone products. Is this true?
From what I have read, this forum is a very hospitable place. I am looking forward to trying the products, and am certainly grateful for the $25 gift certificate.
Hey dhh and welcome to the forums! Let’s see if we can answer any of these questions for you…
Yes, the product will work for you… it will work for any person who uses it, but the effects arent going to be miraculous most of the time… they tend to be subtle and give you that “foot in the door” advantage. Then you have to do the rest.
As far as i know from reading up on the forums, these pheromones will have no long-term effect on your chemistry. All humans give off pheromones naturally, these just up the volume of pheromones you are giving off to get a stronger effect from them. If anyone knows otherwise, please correct that.
Most the people here fully believe in the fact that these products work after giving them a fair chance. But to be perfectly honest, some additional effect probably comes from knowing you have a “secret weapon,” same as when you have a new cologne you know smells great or are wearing clothes that flatter you. You’ll probably be more daring in your social endeavors. So in my opinion, its a hand-in-hand kind of situation… the products work, you become more confident and are more sure of yourself, which in turn means you can take more effect of when the products work. See?
The rest of those questions i’m going to let one of the more experienced users field. Now let’s get you qualified for that GC. We need to know a bit more about you, such as what kind of personality do you have? Shy or outgoing? Where were you thinking of using the pheromones? Work, at home, a pub? And who were you hoping to affect with your pheromones? Friends, family, women, yourself? With this information we can give advice about what products would be best for you, as well as get you that gift certificate that you’ve heard about!
mr feel good has attacked a lot of the questions, so im not going to elaborate on that but i ditto what he said
as for number 4 and 5
4. shipping times are very VERY quick and they use DHL. you can expect to receive your order usually within 3 days since you ordered (at least with my experience.. soemtimes i got them the next day ) so i dont think there is enough time for anything adverse to happen.
as for number 5. im not sure that asians in general produce less or more pheros. im an asian myself and i do just fine without applying extra pheros. however, i am aware that depending on other factors ur natural phero secretion may differ. so for example for women, being on birth control pills for a long time may affect their natural copulin secretion.
anyways, what are you planning on using the pheros for?
You have a couple of questions. We should seperate them.
There are mixed reviews of Liquid Trust on here. I tried it myself a number of times and could notice no effect.
However, there are numerous pheormone products with proven track records for influencing behaviors. You can do forum searches here on specific product names to find out what the experiences of users here are with various products.
Thank you for your response. I plan to use the products in many social situations and places: primarily school and work and occasionally at parties, shopping centers, etc. I attend a large university and work for another university. I spend most of my time in that setting. I’d like to use the products as often as is appropriate.
I can handle myself in social situations and can think on my feet in a conversation and I often initiate them. I am looking for an extra edge in my interactions with people.
Here is my prioritized list to answer your question about who I want to affect with the pheromones: women, myself, friends, family. In short, the more people I can affect, the better. But women are first in line .
Also, I am looking for an unscented product to use with my cologne. However, if Ammo really smells like Acqua di Gio, I’d give it a shot.
On a side note… what colognes/scents does everyone use? I’m exploring those too. I am currently using Givenchy P i. Delicious.
Androtics dosnt use oxytocin in there consumer products. Its not a pheromone its a hormone that can not sustain itself for long periods outside the body like a pheromone does. Olfactorly it needs to be shot right up your nose by nasal spray in large amounts to see effects. . It only has a 3 minute life span out of the body unless refrigerated. Its not workable or effective as a pheromone at this time. Research is currently being done.
Well here at androtics they only offer one mens oil product, A314, although they are working on formulas in oil based for there consumer line.
Oil based diffuses slowly and subtly making it last longer on the skin but making the hits more subtle. Its good for hot sweaty climates because it will last a little longer then alcohol based. Lasts about 12 hours of mild hits
Alcohol based diffuses fast and hits hard. Effects are more noticeable. Self effects are more sharp and noticeable. They can last 4 to 6 hours of moderate to hard hits.
The climate only makes a difference in the rate of diffusion and the distance the mones can travel. In humid conditions people tend to sweat more and the mones will travel farther. Hot dry climates you should be fine with either alcohol or oil. You need to decide the kind of hits you want to experience. Mild or Strong. Keep in mind that all mones have subtle effects and we are talking about the range of hits within that venue.
Keep you mones in a cool dark place like your closet and they can last you years. Oils break down faster so those will only last a couple years.
No unless you buy liquid trust ( remember oxytocin must be refrigerated)
Yes race plays a small part in the mones we tend to make naturally. Asian men tend to make less anone. Asian women tend to not like high anone signatures unless they have grown up around mixed communities where they are exposed to different races alot. This only means that your dosage will be different depending on your preferred targets. You can probably use more anone then the average Caucasian man.
Can you tell us more about your personality, This will help us direct you to products that will fit your needs as well as qualify you for your GC.
I look forward to your reply so I can send it out.
In addition to what I said a few posts back, here is some more information on my personality:
I am detail oriented
I weigh options carefully before making a choice
I am not easily swayed by peer pressure
I am calm most of the time
I have many acquaintances but not many close friends
I am generous to those who I believe truly need my help
I’d rather spend extra time on a task and make sure it is as close to perfect as possible than finish early
I am a multi-tasker
I love to talk with people but time alone is essential for me
I am confident
I like attention
I am insatiably curious and I am constantly trying new things
I can be spontaneous
I’m not sure which aspects of my personality you are looking for. I took an online personality test at humanmetrics.com. The results state that my personality type is ENTJ. Extraverted 22 Intuitive 38 Thinking 38 Judging 67. All of these are based on a scale of 0-100. If there is anything else about my personality you would like to know please ask some specific questions so I know where to start.
Whew good job, Thank you so much for being so detailed
I suggest you AMMO first. This makes a good base or can be used as a stand alone product. A mix of 3 primary mones, arone anone and anol. Well balanced and buffered. Brings a sexy masculine interesting signal. Its mildly arousing. Can be worn anywhere and is very versatile. I want to make you aware that they have changed the scent recently from the AMMO scent to Pherogame cologne or Fragrance #6, which has similar notes to Cool Water, Unforgivable, Green Irish Tweed. If you are really against those scents then you can get it in light neroli by using the custom additions link on the front page of the store. Keep in mind when you customize your guarantee is void. I always suggest going with the original scent offer first and seeing if you like the product so you have the option of returning it. Also keep in mind that unscented dosnt mean it doesn’t smell. You will have to practice covering and you cant mix your cologne in the bottle of mones without throwing the balance off. Just want you to have the info so you can make a decision on it.
To deepen that and because you mentioned … "I can handle myself in social situations and can think on my feet in a conversation and I often initiate them. I am looking for an extra edge in my interactions with people." I suggest IH for deeper more meaningful communication and feelings of connection. IO is very chatty,friendly and fun but can get on your nerves when you dont feel like yapping. You mentioned you value your quiet time. LOL
Lastly I suggest Ishine for a uplifting charismatic warm pull.
If you have questions just ask Your GC is on its way. I look forward to your participation in the forum
Tisha
Oh Yay… One thing that I want to clarify is that all mones have generally subtle hits and when I was explaining Mild to harder hits with oil vs spray its with in that range of subtle.
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