London Calling

Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!
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Hello all. Hydro from London UK here.
What a fantastic forum! It’s subjects like this that internet forums were meant for.
If you’ll indulge me for a few moments I’ll share the potted history that brought me here, my aims & objectives and just generally rant on a bit?..

Me
I am 39 (as of 2012) live & work in London and in an LTR.
Although I have the associated elements of an Alpha (CEO of company, fancy car, money etc) and people I know treat me as such, I am really more a laid back/dependable type, hence people who don’t know me do not treat me as an Alpha.
I have a good sense for analysing peoples interaction with me. My work gives me experience in interacting with my managers & workers as well as sales with new clients ($10-$100k value sales)

History
I bought a cologne based pheromone back in about 1992 with the objective of attracting women and had some success, although it stank & had a negative effect on males. After a couple of months I was in a LTR and gave up using it.

Now
Now, secure in a relationship, work going well, I started thinking about improving my presentation skills with new clients. I read a bit about NLP & body language and it somehow lead me on to think about Pheromones again. I figured that if presenting to a female audience (given that we know sex sells) it might be a nice little edge to the negotiations. So after some (far too brief) research I ordered an Andostenone product from attractant.co.uk. Having ordered it I read more and eventually found Pheromonetalk & AndroticsDirect.
What a revelation! I believed that Pheromones were a single product that sexually attracted women and pissed off other guys a bit. To find the level of detail, research and experimentation going on here and to find threads relating to business environments was just fantastic.
The more I read, the more questions it throws up, but the wealth of data in here has answered most of them.

Future
Having discovered what is here, my pheromone objectives have evolved a little. I still want to give myself an edge when in a sales environment but now I want to do that when selling to both men & women. I also want to motivate my workforce, spice up homelife, get seated in better tables at restaurants, get an edge playing poker (maybe) and generally just play J

My Scientific Method
My analytical nature makes me want to have a good control alongside my observations, virtually impossible with human interaction I’ve concluded, but my best effort is to restrict my observations to people & situations I know fairly well and can accurately predict a ?normal? response pheromone free.
Most easily measured interactions, I believe, are people that I see regularly but have limited or simple interaction with such as the girl I order lunch from everyday or a weekly meeting with a manager I don’t interact with much the rest of the time.
I have read a few posts on here that dismiss a passing smile as not a ?hit? but I strongly believe that the complexity of facial expression is such that the merest glance from a familiar face can be accurately judged.

Observations so far
So I ordered some A314 oil (10ml) & standard Instant Shine (30ml) I also received some complimentary MX 436 (5ml togo) & the Androstenone (from attractant.co.uk) which contains about 30mcg of 5-Alpha-Androst-16-En-3-One Androstenone / spray?maybe? All arrived about 2 weeks ago.

Instant Shine seemed like the safest place to start so I followed the ?sweet spot? method as laid out in the forum. I guess that in terms of testing, much has been done so I’ll be brief (ish)
2-3 sprays of x1 identified as my ?sweet spot? applied to neck / forearms in the morning & refreshed after lunch. Tested mainly at work, definite increase in chattiness, one manager who only ever comes into my office says what needs to be said (standing) & leaves, sat down for a random chat, said the place felt ?fresh?. Similar but more subtle effects at home with the missus, probably due to the effects wearing off (4 hrs since application) but still definite Shine influence.

Following finding my feet with the IS for the last couple of days I have been adding 1 drop of A314 (applied just in front of each ear) I am a bit nervous of using the A314 on its own so have continued with 2 x spays of IS to the neck with it. At work, significant results, normally independent members of staff have been asking my opinion more than usual (ie. seeking approval) I have also noticed less debate from senior management when discussing things, they just ?accept what I’m saying? more (good & bad) Also definite more respectful eye contact from females. Effects last all day (no refresh)

The Androstenone I have only tested once, 3 sprays to shirt (as directed) went shopping, significant responses from females, definitely made younger ones a bit nervous but lingering wide eyed looks all over the place, by the time I got home 4 hours later, no visible effect remaining.

MX436, tried only once so far, just 1 spray, at work, applied to neck. Much more significant smell so haven’t tested further as yet (but I will) Seemed to be gone (smell & effect) with an hour and a half, but only 1 spray so hard to tell.

In conclusion
Thanks for listening, please comment / help / applaud / shoot me down wherever appropriate.
MX436 findings to follow soon.

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Hello and welcome!

I think you completed the “What Qualifies me for a Gift Certificate” 100%

You seem to have a great grasp for things and are well on your way to becoming a reporting user. With not knowing what kinda of “free-time” you have, I suggest you create a journal in the mens section and post results. This will get you reporting user status eventually and good discounts towards the experimental pheromones, which there are some goodies out there!

The -none you bought from the uk website, I am not sure the quality of that company, but make sure you know they also sell that here.

Best of luck, hope to see you around.

Any specific questions, ask away, but I think you seem to have a great grasp for it!

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Hey and welcome fellow Brit

The whole mone use is a bit of a journey and experimentation is definitely needed.

The part of your post ( which was excellent btw) that caught my attention was the reference to " I have read a few posts on here that dismiss a passing smile as not a ?hit? but I strongly believe that the complexity of facial expression is such that the merest glance from a familiar face can be accurately judged.
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IME, it is quite hard to gauge passing smiles and friendliness as related to whatever mix I am wearing when it is subtle. Mainly due to being an out going person who draws a fair bit of attention without mones.

However, there is no doubt, IMO that mones actually do influence people’s behaviour, taking my usual friendliness and stranger/friend interactions and comparing those to more extreme hits.

What I am finding as interesting is the MX SDT are less reliable for assessing hits, having been testing two the past week, with no hits I can say with any sense of certainty, are actual hits due to the mones.

If you follow up the NLP,you’ll find that communication is never one dimensional and understanding what makes people tick and watching their reactions with & without mones should be interesting to read :slight_smile:

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Hello Hydro and welcome to the forum.

It is great that you have already had some luck with the pheros and are seeing results.

Here is a tweak for the A314 at work: add in some IH. IH generates feelings of connection and hence trust and often leads to deeper discussions. so not only will you have the lapha vibe from the a314 going on but people will feel very connected to you at the same time. It is about my favorite work combo.

For the evenings try combining Ammo and A314. There is a thread in my signature block about that combo. It sounds like you should be able to carry that one off very well.

And yes too much none can scare away younger girls. I usually recommend buffering something that is pretty much straight none (ie TUTH or whatever you have) with something like IO. The sexual message of the none still comes through but the IO makes it seem friendlier.

Good luck and keep us updated.

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Welcome to pherotalk Hydro!

Whoa! That is some introduction,when you emailed you wanted to get on the forum I sensed you were eager to get on.

You already ordered and started experimenting, even better.

I see you are eager to share your experiences and if you haven’t already, pls start a journal.

Your gc was issued!

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Thank you all for your welcome & comments, you’ve got me planning my next order already :wink:
Started on the MX 436 now, gonna post my initial findings in the MX reporting thread.