The first report after 3 months with pheromones

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Hello everyone,

This is my first report after using pheromones for almost three months, and probably the last one.

So I started reading this forum one year ago when I found out about pheromones by chance on internet. First I didn’t believe that they really work, I thought it is some kind of marketing issue operated by company related people writing their fake comments and posting them on internet to appeal more customers. So I decided to follow this forum as it seemed the most active one about pheromones among others. As the time passed by, I started asking questions to myself like “are these people serious?” or “hmm, not all these people can be company related, right?”. So after one year of reading this forum and learning about these products that Androtics Direct sell, my opinion about pheromones completely changed. Eventually, I came to the point that I said “Ok, I will give a try, I think they really work”. So three months ago I placed my first order including Instant Shine, Ammuniton and Instant Openness. By the way, by the time I ordered these pheromones I had already collected a lot of knowledge on this site about how to use them, how to find the sweet spot, what makes a good mix etc..So I knew what I had to do and I am a patient person and I like taking time trying to find out about something. By the way, as a short describtion of myself, I can say that I am male and 23 years old. I am an assistant of a professor and I have a lot of collegues around me in my office for the whole day. And they are mostly females. What I wanted was a little more attention from ladies(not only in the office but also when I go out at night to a bar), and more respect from collegues. And I am realistic, I don’t expect anyone to jump on me just because I am wearing pheromones. I know that it is %90 up to the person who uses it to set the mood of the conversation etc. I started using the pheromones one by one. I started with Instant Shine wearing one spray each day. I kept one spray for 4-5 days, no hits..2 sprays for another 4-5 days, no hits. 3 sprays, no hits, I even went up to 7 sprays for each product, still nothing, no effect either on em or on the others. So I decided to give a try to other products, I bought A314, Spaceland, mx203, mx292. I also had the time to test free to go products like TUTH, Instant Honesty. I tested them both one by one and by combinations. But I have never got any results from any of these products, barely nothing. Even A314 which has such a big reputation here gave me no hits. I tested them in my office, at bars, restaurants, gatherings with friends and some other social activities. So, what I am thinking is that I can’t believe I spent so much money on these blue bottles for nothing. Sorry guys for such a long text but I wanted share this for the last time and ask for some opinions and advices before I return them back, because they just don’t work for me.

Thank you very much for taking time..

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No problem man, pheromones aren’t always for everyone so thanks for trying them out anyway. Androtics I’m sure will make sure to refund you.

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Dorian,

Sorry they didn’t work for you. I am curious to know what your baseline with women is.

Please understand that we are all different and you can’t expect pheromones to do all the work. I think I must type that once a day. I’ve had enough success to know they work and I really wish that they worked for you. I have no idea how you present to women, but I often read odd things like the user that put them on and expected women to jump him without him interacting or even as much as making eye contact. Or another poster that was obese and expected that spraying pheromones will make him Don Juan.

I mean no disrespect in telling you about those two, but more to say that you need to have reasonable expectations. I make analogies time and again, but the simplest way is to be plain. If you have zero game, pheromones will be a Band-Aid on cancer. I’ve had better game and i’ve had worse, but I have game, bottom line. Pheromones have been good for me with women, business and everyday social situations. I have had bad effects, good effects and sometimes no effects.

I meet women and get attention form them without pheromones, but mones make it more interesting, easier and fun. I know that AD will give you a refund and I am sorry that you didn’t have a better experience, but my time here says that there is a path to your success and that might take you another direction before pheromones can help. This is just one man’s opinion.

Good luck.

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Thank you guys for answering, I really appreciate that. But like I stated in the beginning of the post, I don’t expect anyone to jump on me just because I am using pheromones. I didn’t use them to get laid, either. What I wanted was more attraction from ladies and more respect from my collogues.
I take care of my appearance really much. Because of my work I dress semi formal everyday and never go out without shaving. I am already comfortable with interacting with people and I really don’t expect pheromones to do something magical. But when you don’t get any hits for such a long time, not even a look that you didn’t receive before, then you realize there is something wrong with these products.

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Well, that’s a broad statement. Maybe for you no, but I have noticed a lot of differences since I started wearing pheromones. As well as others, but then again not everyone does, but as I said some do (I’m one of them.)

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Sorry to hear you have had no success with these. Can I ask how much you know about body language and how observant you are to it? I say this because I would have to be one of the most analytical people on this planet and honestly it is a pain in the ass sometime…. BUT, after studying body language from the age of 16 and psychology as well in later years, I can say with a 100% certainty they do make a difference. You may not be picking up on the small things that could be opened up to other things if you knew what you were looking for.

In my first post I said I had never approached a woman in my life at bars etc. However, when I was your age and doing the bar hooping thing, every second weekend at lest I would be take someone home. I just knew that they wanted something. I didn’t even know you could buy mones back then (if you even could, I don’t know). I knew of them, but that was it. If I had what I have now back then, my claim to fame would have ended much sooner I’m betting… one girl came up to me and said “you went home with so and so last weekend and she said you were good”. Needless to say I took her home that night. And the next day I said to myself ‘I have to stop this, I’m turning into a male slapper’

Like Vaccine says, you need to have a game plan and in my words “test and measure” but you need to be able to see the results.

I’ve using these for little over a week now and you wouldn’t believe the things I have seen or been told that are out of the ordinary…

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In more cases than ‘I THINK’ a lot of people realize … it’s the person.

Still, ‘I THINK’ you have to play the part, and with a lot of people, you have to look the part. One of my favorite sayings is … IF YO WANT RESPECT, YOU HAVE TO EARN RESPECT. Attraction, IF YOU ASK ME, has so many faces. I was reading a book a while back, and it read, “I don’t look for who I am attracted to when I walk into a room, I look for who’s attracted to me.” Something like that. It just makes perfect sense to me NOW. A lot of hits are subtle, and IF YOU HAVE NO CLUE, you WILL miss them.

I don’t know anything about you, but it’s you that has to be happy. If you feel there’s something wrong with the products, save your money.

Sorry you had no luck.

Good luck!

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Dorian, I myself tried many pheromone products and I will confidently say these products do work but to a very small extent. Sometimes I do wonder whether pheromones are worth that tiny difference. I’m trying to get the placebo effect to work on me and I’m sure it will be much greater in effect but I am unable to do so.

Actually most of my “hits” happen when I display confidence with or without pheromones and when I think back on the day I usually doubt pheromones are behind it.

Of all the pheromones I have tried I will say Androstenone gives the most possible effect although it is subtle. If I am not wrong I had very good respect hits with these. Praises are given all the time through different ways but I do always happen to display confidence during those periods. Products that I am referrring to are AMMO, MX292 and The Edge mixed with oil. You could consider Keeping those.

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Since you are an assistant to a professor, I would guess that you have some idea how scientific method works. I trust your testing methods, and i can’t help but wonder how you are not seeing “hits”

Maybe “hits” is the wrong word. Are you seeing any change in personality or behavior of yourself or those around you?

Have you experienced any changes in mood or emotion due to using these products?

Because if you are using 7 sprays of IS, IO, and Ammo…
And don’t feel the least bit happy, talkative or horny…
It’s not the pheromones you need to worry about :smiley:

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To be sure, using pheromones isn’t an exact science yet. Many here have learned what works for them and what doesn’t.

I’ll give you a golf analogy.

There’s a new set of clubs that are the latest and best. All titanium and magnesium, lightweight and designed to keep the ball from slicing. It should take a few strokes off your game. As a decent player, you hit the links and after a while, you notice that these have improved your game. You still do the work; you select the club, you decide your shot setups, everything. Wow, you think, these clubs made my game better.

You loan the new clubs to your friend who is not a skilled player. He plays with them and says, they do nothing for him, he didn’t notice any difference.

I think this is similar with pheromones. My opinion is that if someone using them is not socially skilled or otherwise in someway disconnected from the intended target(s), pheromones will not be effective. I do not mean this as a slight or with any disrespect to anyone, but I believe the group that will see the most benefit will be those that are already engaging the intended audience.

Dorian, this may not relate to you, maybe it does. But if you have little to no interaction to those you are concerned with, then there might be issues present that pheromones alone can’t address. I asked your baseline with the women you referred to, as your personality, physical appearance and your interaction will all have an effect.

Again, these are my thoughts and opinions. I didn’t find this forum or buy products initially to meet women, but to improve an existing relationship. Things changed, I am again single. With or without pheromones, I have and do meet women. That’s my baseline. I can say that it is fun to use them and they take my social skills/physical presence and give me more of an edge.

You post is refreshing to read, as you understand that you are 90% of the success. What are you like? I wonder how you are perceived by those around you? Are you loud and obnoxious? Are you quiet and fade into the surroundings? Are you engaging to talk to or boring? How do you dress and act? Do you see other men getting attention that you want to have? What are they doing differently than you? What is it that you can choose to change about you that could improve your social situation, without pheromones? You don’t have to answer these here, these are for you to evaluate.

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I’m not trying to be a dick, but these post come up every couple of months and I’m kind of tired of them. I know pheros work and I know not every hit is like an Axe commercial.

I was buying a shirt as the cashier was ringing it up, I asked if she liked the shirt. (3xIG 2xIO)This single question led to a 10 minute conversation about how long she works, her vacation, school, and family. There was a line of about twenty people waiting and she didn’t seem concerned.
I was at a bar (mx302x3) I was watching a football game after about 45 minutes I realized something. The girls ordering drinks were doing it right beside me. The entire side of the bar was open but they always ended up ordering right beside me.

Here’s what I’d like to see, a guy that claims pheros didn’tt work is teamed up with a wingman to look for hits if any. I’ll bet their observations would be night and day.

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I too have the same experiences as you Dorian. I know that women like me but maybe I’m greedy and want more notices, whatever whatever. I don’t have any more conversations with pheromones than I do without it. Some people react when I have pheros on some don’t. The same as when I have on Dial body wash. Just b/c a person pays special attention doesn’t mean it was the pheros. Even spaceland does nothing to me personally. I hear all the " I was soooo zoned out…" but I hit myself with 5 shots then drove to the club and didn’t feel shit. Nothing. Zip. That being said I bought a fair amount that I will keep using and hoping to see measurable differences. For all of you who “PooPoo” this person’s experiences, it might not be him, it may just be you who took the fact that a girl flipped her hair in front of you to think your “5 sprays Is 3 sprays TUTH mix” has now rendered her defenseless to your charms when maybe her hair was just in her eyes.

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Here is a thought … maybe were he is evaluating might be part of the problem. Work is not always the ideal place. I do some of my best testing when I get a hair cut. I’ve been in the shop many times and singled out a couple of gals to test on. They can’t move away so I am sure they are within the pheromone cloud. I wait and observe changes in and the amount of talk, their mood, and body language. Really is a very good place to test. Give it a try?

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Hey Dorian its cool! Sometime we get caught up in reading reports (like mine) that are so over the top, so outrageous, that we think WOW this stuff is going to be crazy good. We all do it and its really OK. I totally understand where you are coming from and its one of the reasons I actually have stopped posting my more outrageous hits and am now trying to post my more subtle hits.

On that note I’m kind of at fault for leading others to believe that just by using mones they will get the same type of magic I get. What you have to understand is that I also omit my extensive training in NLP, social dynamics, charisma and my charm. Its what makes me, well me :slight_smile:, but not everyone can game an entire club full of people. It’s not an easy task to be like me and I can feel your frustration and I really want to be able to help you. I don’t like to say this (it messes with my state and frame) but just take a look at my picture. 42 years old, over weight and not by any means model material. I get plenty of action from many beautiful women. I’ve even dated a movie star. If I can do it everyone can :wink:

My days fill up pretty quickly with answering questions about all the newest mixes and such, but I know I can help you. I’m going to be putting together a really nice order for you of things I know we can get to work the way they should work for you. No charge, my friend! You’ve been a very loyal guy who I can tell is really trying and wants to see results and that speaks volumes about your character. It’s the least I can do for you. If for any reason we can’t get the love juices to work just right for you, I’ll refund your previous orders–No questions asked. That’s how confident I am :smiley:

I’m also going to make some time for you and I to spend a good hour one-on-one, a personal consultation. I promise you, you wont be dissapointed in my willingness to share some insights with you. The one thing I have learned is that sometime when we are really looking, really trying to see the results that everybody else talks about we miss the results that are actually happening all around us. It wouldn’t be the first time, my friend, that its happened. I’m sure together we can work through this.

In the meantime I’m preparing an order for you, on the house, of some great products. All I ask is you give me the opportunity to assist you and find out how we can improve your experience and make things happen. Please drop me a PM of when you will be available and I will clear my schedule and call you.

I look forward to hearing from you :slight_smile:

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Steve is the best! See Dorian, what company does this? You just won back the money you spent on more free products on the house.

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Hello again guys, sorry I couldn’t respond to your replies so far, I just had a quite busy time at work and I just came back.
First of I want to thank you all for taking your time and trying to help me. This friendly attitude is something that I really like about this forum.
I will try to respond to all your comments as much as I can;

mikotorocks714, I think I am an unlucky guy about that stuff, I really feel happy for you that they work for you.

Alfa1, I consider myself quite good at reading body language of people. I got some training about it some years ago as well. As I also do teaching, I always train myself on body language by using my knowledge about class management. Moreover, I am also a photographer, I practice street photography and portraits. Mainly because of this my eyes are at observation all the time. Wherever I go, I always observe people and their expressions to shoot a good portrait of them from my mind(if I don’t have my camera with me). So I trust myself in terms of reading body language.

M&M, I am a confident person, I generally step forward in most of the communities that I am involved. And I am always invited by the people around me to different activities, gatherings etc. I mean I am not an antisocial, silent type of guy. Speaking of photography, I opened exhibitions in different countries and had a good success trying to make a name for myself, also trying to make friends. And when it comes to pheromones, I believe I am playing my part in society, I am starting conversations, approaching people with a smile and I am perceived by my collegues quite well.

dude, I understand what you are feeling. I really would think different than I am thinking now if I saw that tiny difference that you see.

evolver, thanks for this enjoyable comment..:slight_smile: this is another point, I have never realized any self effects from any of the products. I even went odd by spraying Spaceland on my wrists and taking a deep smell to see if I will feel something. I did this for some other products, too. I even tested pheromones by spraying different places like my hair, chest, wrists, forearm, back of hands, forehead, neck etc.

Vaccine, as I stated in my reply to others, I am always in touch with people. I attend social meetings quite often with friends. As an answer to your questions; I am not a very “funny” guy who makes jokes at everything he hears. I pick when to be humourous carefully and make jokes when I feel that I should do it, and most of the time, I bring people to laugh. In terms of attention, I don’t have problem about getting it. And I like challenging people who try to be the “number 1 cool guy” among others. I don’t do that to replace him, but just to make him look silly because I can’t tolerate that kind of guys.I dress semi-formal in weekdays and casuall at weekends. I never go out without my hair in shape or without shaving. So I am keen on how I look. I hope I could answer your questions.

Blacky Chan, I am happy that they work for you and thank you for sharing your mixes with us. But I am sure all beginning users like me expect hearing some help from experienced users like you. Remember that at first times, you didn’t know anything about pheromones either, and I am sure there were people who didn’t feel tired just because you asked for some help.

bhillboy37, thank you so much for your comment. You express exactly what I feel. I think I have some of that greediness, too

reddog, thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely try it. But workplace is not the only place where I tested it. I have tested them in a lot of different social situations which includes me sitting in the same place with a phero cloud over me.

Steve, I really appreciate your comments and your help. Actually it is very easy for someone to surrender his feelings or doubts when he reads the comments on this forum. And I have seen some comments here that can easily make someone think that if you buy it, you own everything, you go out with any girl you want. I think being influenced in that way has something to do with the greedy instincts of humans.
Anyway, I never expected such a result.

Well, I don’t know how I can thank you for the favor you are doing to me. You can be sure that I will try them with the same patience that I tried the previous ones. And I will report here the smallest hit or observation that I get. I really want to see some results and enjoy these products as much as the other guys around this website do. Thank you endless times. And I will PM you as soon as I review my schedule.

I hope I could answer the questions of everyone,
I appreciate the help of all of you,

I wish you all a happy time…

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Priceless!!!

Dorian, I wish you the best in your experiments and commend your willingness to give it a final try. These products have worked magic for me but by no means I will assume they should work for everyone. Indeed, one of my favorite attraction MX’s is regarded by many as a social mix while for me it yielded my best hits ever, go figure.

In any case, I have read many posts from Steve and if anything you get out of this forum is some hints and advice from him on how to shine your existing social skills: that’s priceless!!! Enjoy the exchange!!!

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Thank you for your post Vangelis. It is true that not everybody gets the same results here. I will try my best…

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Three cheers for Steve … Dorian you don’t know how lucky you are. Good luck testing and let us know how things are progressing for you.

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Steve you are a legend, my thoughts and respect for this forum are growing by the day. There are a lot of very helpful people here and it’s great to be a part of it (even if it’s a very small part).

Dorian, you are in for a treat if you can take Steve up on his offer. Given what you have said, I assume that you are into visual arts of sorts. This is great! Because if this is your passion you have a very good base line to play with. Given that and what you say about yourself it would suggest you are dominantly a visual person and will stand back and watch as apposed to getting involved in the action. Hey, there is nothing wrong with that, I do it all the time. It’s also great that you have done some study on body language also. I must say, if it was a corporate course that you have done, it’s a little different to the dating style. Dating was my primary focus when I started looking into it. Of course, once you have started you can grow in all sorts of directions.

NLP (Neuro-linguistic programming) is a fascinating subject. I’ll leave that to Steve to talk to you about, it’s far to complex to get into here. Just remember one thing…. If that little voice in your heads says “I cant” then you wont…. If it says “I know that” then you are cut off from learning anything new…. Why you say? Because your brain is saying I already know that, so I don’t need to learn it. As a teacher, you most likely already have a very good idea of what I am saying here. So have an open mind and even if the mones still don’t work for you, I bet other doors will open once you look at yourself and see things you can work to improve on.

Have a look at my signature in blue below… it has a somewhat hidden meaning… for you it will be different to what it means to me and the next person.

Your journey is just about to begin.
All the very best.