hey guys,
from what i can tell, Androtics do alot more in terms of constantly developing and experimenting with new products. But maybe Love Scent have the edge in “all in one” products - instead of having to combine different pheromones on top of each other , eg. io plus is plus a314 etc. Gegogi and Sigma seem to be prominent on the other forum as well,so whats the general consensus here? Scent of Eros gets good wraps, whats the Androtics equivalent?
i have often thought about going to the dark side. I cant decide what to order for my second order and I was thinking about trying them.
But the new MX range seems sooo damn sexy oriental style i think il be trying those.
The thing is that I dont think its a good idea to mix products. We have found the best place to get these type of products from as in how well they work (apparently) so why get other products that dont work as well?
I like the whole idea of the users themself’s test the beta stuff and report back. It gives the edge of making new products..
i sooo want the new mx range. whats the deliivery times like at androtics atm ?
I don’t think lovescents makes their on products, they just sell them. On the other hand, Androtics makes their own products AND sells them. It’s like a win -win!
Freedom to customize mixes and taylor them to the phero signature you want to leave is awesome. Only androtics gives you the supplies and new developmental pheros to get after your pheromone goals. Also the customer service at Androtics is far superior to that of Love-scent. 
I’ve only had excellent, responsive and fast customer service at LS. They aim to please and pronto. I would describe their customer service as second to none and I have ordered every 3 or 4 months for over 4 years. And, yes, they are primarily a reseller but not entirely: they have commissioned a dozen or so original designs and tweaked these products with free or low cost beta versions. I can only think of IMPI, EW, A7, Aquagen and Chiraka at the moment, but there were others. Earlier this year I was one of the beta testers for unscented Aquagen, a highly effective “social and work” mix.
So, yeah, Bruce of LS is primarily a businessman and hires designers to create his original products while gathering most other products from the four corners of the earth. Macys and Sears have a similar business design. Do you really think Gap, Guess or Apple actually make anything? They design, license, farmout manufacturing, brand, market and sell. I see this as a positive thing and a real plus to have both the variety and competition in the marketplace. I love Androtics products but ain’t it great you have good choices. It would be a sad day if only one retailer was in business.
For what it’s worth, Scent of Eros and The Edge are among my fav and oft used pheromones. I don’t mention them much as most folks here don’t use them. I’ve never taken them outta rotation although with my Androtics toys the rotation cycle has gotten rather lengthy! And I have a boatload of products of every description. It’s getting silly. But for important dates I still usually reach for The Edge and Scent of Eros. I know it works for me and I can depend on it. Admittedly I really liked PheroProof (RIP) but it looks like history and I don’t have much left.
Now there is another pheromone seller/designer company that will make custom mixes to order and by the bucket full. We’re not allowed to mention their name but they probably have the worse customer service I have experienced. Well I actually got the product–raw chemset pheromones–and they were fine but I’d think really hard about ordering again.
Alot of the experienced people here still buy from LS. Its a good company. I do mix the two products on occasion. We just dont hang out in the forum because we are not free to talk about any other sellers/product over there and here you can talk about any product. You just cant post links to the labs/businesses that sell the raw products.
I like the edge for women, Scent of Eros, EOW, I am still testing out pheromol factor and so far I like it. I got the excite wipes recently I like them they remind me of Instant Openness but not as strong. I have gotten a few products there that dont do a thing for me but that is to be expected.
The reasons I buy most my stuff from Androtics is because they work really well for me. The prices are good, and they have what I am looking for. Plus I get to blind test fun stuff.
If you have a question or report on another product your welcome to post it. Androtics is secure because they know there stuff works and it helps people to avoid scams and products that dont work out there. As we all know the net is full of them and new ones pop up all the time.
Oh and I never had a problem with customer service over there. The products are premade and when he runs out they are gone unless he can restock them. Like the excite wipes, I was waiting along time for those to come back. When they did I had them within a week.
You dont have to mix the consumer products here. They are perfectly balanced they way they are. People just like to do it and they also do it over at LS. Remember A314 has 9 pheromones in it. One of those has to be be A-nol so when your adding IO your just tweeking it into a more friendly outgoing mix to offset the awe factor some people get from A314.
Tisha
I have ordered from both LS and ADR and love them both. Every shop has its advantages. LS has a wider range of all-in-one products, ADR on the other hand has a rather modular approach which allows more ‘tweaking’. I cannot say that I ever had any problems with the customer service at LS - I always got my products within a week or two maximum, and I never had any problems returning products that didn’t work for me. ADR’s customer service is great, too - I only wished it wouldn’t take so long to ship the products. But I understand that ADR is in a kind of restructuring process and Jas is quite busy, so that is understandable.
Both LS and ADR sell good products - but I have the impression that ADR’s products work a little better on me.
I know a LOT of the ladies buy at least EoW from LS. I certainly do, although I have had mixed results with it.
I’ve also read a lot of absolutely rave reviews of scent of eros from the women and I keep meaning to try it out. I’m not too sure about any of the other products. I’ve got some edge for women gel packs but am waiting for the right occasion to try those out.
I’m pretty new to pheros in general, and am still trying to figure out my “hero” products here - I think - scent of eros aside which is on my current wish list - I will move over to trying a few “dark side” products later on. But I’m not sure if there is any guarantee at LS as there is here on the consumer line? I have read quite a few poor reviews of a few of LS’s lines and it makes me hesitant.
May
Hey May,
LS has a 90 days money-back guarantee - and they refund without problems.
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I haven’t bought any products from LS mainly because I just don’t like the way they roll; it’s like a communistic government or something. Androtics on the other hand, has great customer service and I am seeing positive results with their products.
Care to explain?
Go make a post about a non-LS product there.
Hello everyone, before I happen to find Androtics , I had mainly ordered from LS, and a few times I tried the Athena for Women. I have never had a problem with LS’s products and like someone else mentioned, still use them. What I really like about Androtics is, they have so much to choose from at very reasonable prices. Since I am into aromatherapy, I enjoy mixing, and experimenting. I also enjoy the forum. This is actually the first time that I’ve been able to discuss using pheromones with like minded people.
08/24/07 1:30 PM PMT
Sincity traderneil
I have had good experiences with Bruce at L/S. I find him to be a fair in business and his product line is good. I still have some of his products and I still have good results using products like WAGG, Andro 4.0,and A/E.
I also enjoyed Chakra,Edge and the pocket foil samples… The prices were a little High, but the C/S was good…
The forum on the other hand and they way they policed it was like Nazi Soldiers…why attack the very people who buy your products??? Also some of the members post so often it seems like they just want to talk about themselves Instead of posting actual results from their studies…When I see their posts here (usually quite often) I skip over them without reading them because I know the content is worthless…
A/D
I like A/D very much and I am happy to be able to have access to all their wonderful products…I like the Product development, I like the management, and I like the way most this forum is trying report results, spreadsheets,and other interesting information into the sticky notes…We all know that age,hygene,dress,demeanor,diet all influence the way we are perceived, My success rate is excellent,my self confidence is very high,and I constantly attract women many years younger than I…Thanks Michael, Thanks Jasmin 
traderneil
I was wondering why the forum over there seems boring. I’ve glanced at it a few times, but have never posted anything.
Obviously you’re going on hearsay. I and many others have discussed non-LS products, even recently as a few days ago for me. They merely don’t allow posting of competing links. I actually discussed A314, Instant Female Magic and Instant Honesty–no problems.
Yes, the LS forum was nearly destroyed by a combination of asses, flamers and over zealous moderation. Pretty much wiped the forum. Oddly I’ve noticed some of the same trouble makers were banned at PheroTalk. It wouldn’t take much to drag down this forum and, if you haven’t noticed, many of the best and most experienced posters have left months ago, leaving a lot of noobs and weak advice. Anywho, the mods at LS are much better and more restrained now.
some of the better posters (catlord and others) here were banned at LS, but perhaps the approach has changed in recent months…
to my eyes, although there seems to have been a spike in the number of new users and, although of course some people take time out here and there, there remains a great deal of informed and innovative exploration here (notably lately in the women’s area though plenty of interesting stuff in the mens’). seems to me that most of the best and experienced posters that ever were active are still active and that of late there have been some very interesting new arrivals (yourself included 
in any case, easily room in the market for at least two active forums I would think…
L-s has some good can’t- do-without-them (for some users) products like SOE and NPA/TE and excellent customer service. Even though l-s has created some products which are not sold anywhere else they are primarily a reseller and as a reseller they are bar none the best!
However, I have my doubts about some products they carry and there is no way they can be testing the quality and consistency of the products, being a reseller, like what has recently been seen for PI. Most product manufacturers either put imported pheromones which apart from being of low quality may also sometimes carry harmful heavy metals and there is nothing l-s can do about it except to accept the returns and when it gets out of hand start suggesting a different manufacturer (like they are suggesting Alpha-7 instead of PI).
Also I feel some products carry a huge unfair markup. For anyone wanting to buy Aquagen check the price at l-s then check the price at manufacturer’s website to get a feel for that.
That’s the advantage of shopping at Androtics I guess, that being a manufacturer they can charge a reduced cost and still maintain and monitor quality apart from giving us access to a lot of raw pheromones and keeping us involved in testing and the resultant tweaking of all products.
I hope your right and things are getting better there. There is only one thread over there about Androtics. Its refered to as the “other place” LOL. When I first started out they deleted any post that I mentioned the name of a product they didnt sell. (This was a year ago or so) I didnt post a link either. So I went elsewhere. I do notice they dont use the standard “do a search” like they used to with every newbie that had a question.
Its a good store and I dont think the past forum conduct should take anything away from the products offered. I know I didnt stop buying from them because of my experience in the forum. I think its good to have more then one place you can trust to get products that work.
Tisha
IMO the Stores and the Forums, although related, are different things. L-S has some nice products. They are a “general retailer” so they carry not only their own products, but other manufacturer’s products as well. Their “cachet” and return policy makes me feel more willing to at least try some of those products over something offered on a questionable website or eBay. I think they are a good business and I have no problems dealing with them. Androtics is primarily a research business so we see many unknowns, untesteds, and brand new products to play with. So I’d say L-S and Androtics com;iment each other rather than compete. (Although L-S is probably more newbie oriented). The pherolibrary.com site connected with L-S is great.
As for the forums. Yes, I think the L-S forum had it’s problems. I was really bothered by some attitudes. I’ve mostly just lurked there of late, but from what I’ve seen it’s gotten much better than it was about a year of so ago. Cooler heads seem to be prevailing. At the moment I prefer Androtics forum, partially due to the fact my time is at a premium and I can only really devote that time to one site right now, so I pick the one that “feels” better. Someday I hope to be able to get back into devoting equal time to both forums. Someday…
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