Yea I know what you mean about the lack of horny edge with those two products. I wish I was in your shoes and be able to get away with any NPA at work - it would make things a lot more fun for sure.
Here is some more on the Scent of Eros ‘lightweight effect’ that can happen for some people (only when it is NOT buffered by other things, of course, like A314 and/or Androstenone for example). To be fair some of the posts below highlight that one can make use of being ‘nice’ as well and I have included JVK’s response as well to be fair…
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823
bjf (February 24, 2003):
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Scent of Eros – Too Nice?
I wonder if some women are turned off with a guy with too much Nol…i.e. too nice, too wimpy, can walk all over him.
maybe i am wrong about it."
SonnyBlack (February 24, 2003):
“ive always wondered about this as well…I think girls see you as such (wimpy, weak, not able to protect them) when you have too much nol on. Ive worn Scent of Eros a couple of times and and I kinda noticed such reactions while doing so…or maybe it was just that im used to having naturally high levels of none and when I added nol it sorta freaked me out…”
bjf (February 24, 2003):
"the only time i have ever worn more nol then none i thought a bunch of guys behind me were considering robbing me and a girl basically felt “wht can u do for me, you couldn’t take care of me” type-deal. Guys were nice, except for the guys who wanted to rob me
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. I am interested to see how women reacted to other guys with much higher nol to none/rone ratio"
Proteus (February 24, 2003):
"I tend to agree that with Scent of Eros you tend to be perceived as too nice - so especially when I hit the clubs if I use Scent of Eros I definitely use it with some -none, specifically JB#1.
But sometimes being perceived as " too nice " works great as you can move in on the ladies in kind of a stealth mode. Once I have her talking, which Scent of Eros is very good at doing, then I can use my skills to seduce her. If one approaches -nol products from this perspective, you can in many ways be more successful with women than if you use -none products because they are already “comfortable” with you and if your seduction skills are good, then the rest is easy. I think of it this way - -none, when it works well, will have her ready to jump you without too much work, whereas -nol may not induce this reaction, but from a percentage scale you can get to “talk” with a lot more women, and take it from there. So for the less skilled seductionists go with -none, but if you have skills, then I think -nol products are much better for you. Just my two cents."
franki (February 24, 2003):
"…The only problem with nol alone, IMO, is that when you are already a nice guy yourself, and you are only wearing nol, you are missing something. Personally I ALWAYS feel I am missing something when I don’t put on the tiniest bit of none.
I really don’t believe in the theory that too much nol (on its own) makes one too nice…"
jvkohl (February 25, 2003):
“Some people may be forgetting that -nol has been shown to effect hormone levels (luteinizing hormone:LH, and follicle stimulating hormone) in women. This effect is always beneficial in other mammals; it is the typical response to pheromones from the opposite sex. An increase in LH will be followed by an increase in testosterone, which is very effective with regard to increasing libido, in both men and women. Scent of Eros may be too nice, but it also provides a nice push in the right direction: towards increased interest in sex.”
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=183590#post183590
Shenandoah (April 27, 2006):
“…One does not want to over do the SoE. It could make you seem too friendly – that is a “push over,” a light weight, or a people pleaser…”
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Futurist (January 7, 2006):
“…Scent of Eros – This has a pheromone formula that gives off social effects, such as chattyness. Wear too much of it and you will seem overly wimpy. A good product, but doesn’t serve as a sexual attractant as it claims to. However, if you are a clint east wood type guy, a biker type, a body builder, etc, then this will likely take away some of the intimidation you produce in women and make you more attractive…”