Alright since ammo has been rather difficult to get a hold of these days and since it’s common knowledge that the three main ingredients in ammo are Androstenone, Androsterone and Androstenol, I have decided to purchase to go bottles of all three at 12.5 mcg in an attempt to create my own “bootleg” version of ammo.
To make things easy on myself I have decided to make batches in small amounts using the spray technique; where rather than measuring out proper amounts using a pipette I will spray the raw ingredients into a to go bottle at various ratio’s.
With that being said the two ratio’s I intend to first try out would be 1 androstenone : 1 androstenol : 1 androsterone - as well as - 2 androstenone: 1.5 androstenol : 1 androsterone (The second is the ratio of Alter Ego, which is an oil based product similar to Ammo.) I intend to take both of those combined ratio’s and mix them 1:1 with cologne.
So here’s the part I need someone with some mixing experience to help me out with… Let’s say I take the first ratio of 1:1:1, where all of the ingredients are mixed at equal parts using a 12.5 mcg concentration, and I then proceed to cut the whole concoction with an equal part of cologne, what exactly would be the mcg’s of all of the pheromones per spray?
My first instinct would be to divide the 12.5 mcg by two (as the mix is 50% cologne) which would be 6.25 mcg per spray… But I know that can’t be right since there would be three ingredients being sprayed out simultaneously so there’s no way that the original mcg would remain consistant… So would that then make it 12.5 divided by 3 (which would be 4.1666) and divide that result by two; which would make the end result 1.3888mcg per spray of each ingredient.
Does anyone know if my math is correct with either of these two results?
Definetly play around with the mix calculator. Nbully gave us an amazing tool. I am just going to throw this out there SC. This is my suggestion.
AMMO has been reported to contain 2.5mcg’s of -none, erone, and anol. If you were to take an empty AD 5ml bottle and spray 8 sprays from each of your 12.5mcg bottles into that empty bottle, and then fill the rest with your cologne(2ml), it would give you 2.5mcg’s of each per spray. = AMMO
8 sprays of -none at 12.5 mcgs into 5ml
8 sprays of erone at 12.5 mcgs into 5 ml
8 sprays of anol at 12.5 mcgs into 5ml
2ml (or spray until 5ml is full) of cologne
Jesse that’s actually a really great suggestion, I might just do that. My only problem with that is that it’s a lot of cologne to waste if that mix turns out to be a dud, I was hoping to start off with something the size of a to go bottle or smaller.
But yeah I downloaded that mix calculator, there is a ridiculously large amount of buttons to click so it’s probably going to take a little fooling around with it for me to figure it out.
EDIT:Wait I just realized the 5ml bottle IS the to go bottle, I was thinking of a 30ml bottle. In which case I will totally do that… I was also able to get the mix calculator to come up with the same results so it’s all looking good.
Okay I have made my two mixes… I actually only meant to make a half a to go bottle of the 1:1:1 ratio but I spaced out when I was doing my mixing and I accidentally made a whole bottle. Ah no matter.
Anyway I made a half a to go bottle (2.5 ml) of my Alter Ego bootleg mix. For all of those who are curious the following is what the mix calculator helped me to come up with for that:
End mixed per spray content: 5mcg androstenone: 3.75 androstenol : 2.5 androsterone
A 1:1 mix of mones to cologne ain’t gonna smell very good. But I suppose you can just cover it with a spray of straight cologne and it will be fine. I’ve done the Ammo (AE too) clone a few times and used much stronger chemset mone concentrations so I could mix 1 part mones to 5 parts cologne. At that dilution the integrity of the cologne is mostly intact.
The good news is that when you purchase “experimones” from androtics by default it all comes with a neroli cover scent, as they make it way more expensive to purchase pheromones with no cover than with one. But mixing it at a 5:1 pheromone to cologne ratio is actually a really great idea, as it would probably cut down on the neroli scent greatly. I only wish I had thought of that when I was placing my order!
If these batches go well I’ll have to keep that in mind for my next order. But until then I’ll have to use a cologne cover the neroli/pheromone scent.
Contains 3 human pheromones in an attractive department store quality cologne.
Total pheromone per spray: 7.5mcg (+/- 5%) with just 2.5mcg of androstenone making it very easy to use.
I really dont want to search for the posts again because it took me a long time to find them to begin with, but I read posts by Jasmine, as well as others, saying that AMMO 1.0 contained -none, erone, anol at equal amounts. The only exeption was:
This version (1.5) was only available for a short time.
like I said, in ammo, in addition to three mones, there is also a catalytic enzyme that utilizes and reacts with these mones at different rates. The enzyme may also have different affinities to each. who knows? Unless you know what other driving compounds are in there, u can’t EXACTLY duplicate ammo. u can get something similar to it though
What piece of information have you read that that leads you to this theory? I would be interested to see it. Im not saying you didnt see it but in the past year of reading this forum I have never heard of a mysterious catalytic enzyme in this product.
When you say catalytic enzyme are we talking about small quantities of “buffering” pheromones, or other various pheromones which are intended to push the mix in one direction or another?
