I have pretty much tested the lot of my products by themselves with the exception of meo-est.
The self effects are not so desirable in most situations. I sprayed 4 sprays throughout my application points to make for 40mcg of meo-est. I immediately became even more spacey than at 1 in the morning last night when I sprayed spaceland to try and make myself more tired.
Walked around my room rather aimlessly forgetting the simple tasks of refill water, get backpack, keys, and leave. As I walked down the stairs I started a convo with a friend of mine. Twice in the convo I forgot what I was talking about to the point of completely not knowing what was going on. Luckily he didn’t take it the wrong way, and I was off to class.
At class I was even more spacey. I sat next to a girl that I sat next to in the first lecture and not since (4 more in between). The guest lecturer was an uber liberal feminist biased nightmare who I could not listen to for fear of wanting to explode.. Possibly exacerbated by an inability to focus on the lot of what she was saying (meo-est). However, it was very fun in class to notice how freely my mind roamed new memories in a rather tranquil state. I remembered many things, thought of others in a different way, etc.
I also became incredibly tired in the class, but was wide awake as soon as I left. Probably the boredom, daydreaming, and animosity towards the guest lecturer had something to do with it. As of right now I am having some trouble focusing on typing and paying attention to whatever I am doing.
Times this would be useful for: Making someone angry at you be less angry, forget why they are angry, or create a new perception of you. For this to happen, keep away from your face and neck. I sprayed the neck by accident, and while it helps me relay self-effects to fellow phero testers, it made me spacey!
Probably useful at parties or social gatherings. Not business meetings. I am also excited at the prospect of spraying this before I go to bed and falling into a restful, fun memory having sleep where I forget some worries!
Yeah, Meo is somewhat of a wild card. It’s got a subtle enhancement effect but I can’t figure what triggers it or even what exactly it is. It’s weird in that sometimes it seems to add something, but what or why is totally inconsistent.
More testing then to test the inconsistent and shrink its margin of error! Not till after class, however because I need to be sharper than I felt in class…
Another very strong effect of meo-est I forgot to report on. I sprayed it before bed, both on my face and neck to really get the effects (20mcg)… I had the most intense dreams for two nights in a row. (both sexual, which is very rare for me to have sexual dreams believe it or not).
The other funny thing is that in those sexual dreams, (I hope this isn’t too much info, maybe I had too much androstenol I produce on my own..) but they were of girls I hadn’t talked to or thought about in MONTHS! It was the weirdest thing but I have woken up feeling much more rested the last couple of nights of meo-est application. Definitely useful to increase rem.. Maybe my extreme agitation at the very angry guest speaker (or I took her to be) was exacerbated by the meo-est, but the anger and agitation left as soon as I left the class.
i love meo-est. i use it a mostly with rone taa and the nols. it makes me very happy and really WARMS up all social interactions. great for male bonding esp those grouchy boss types. meo-est is nice as a stand a lone as well. really chills me out but lucky for for me no spacey effects. estratetraenol from ls [its cousin i think] spaces me out big time. the effects on others is almost like meo-est. est last longer and keeps me spaced out all day. males seem very very happy in the presence of est[even late in the day after morning applications.] soon i plan to test meo-est and est as a combo. ALSO I WONDER IF MEO-EST OR EST IS IN MX230. I’M ZONING OUT ON 3 SPRAYS OF MX230 NOW. THIS MX230 STUFF IS REALLY COOOOL.
Is interesting, I tested MX230 in a blind test on 5 male subjects with no zoning out but lots of reports of male bonding and attraction. It is a possibility that Meo is in it. Not EST though. They will not use that in a mix because its patented and the loop hole only applys to unscented products. Its possible P74 is in it though.
This is very common with it as well as the forgetfulness.
When I use large doses of Meo my husband and my Dad have both shown agitation. Every guy dosnt react that way though some have been fine around it. Its to unperdictable for my tastes. Perhaps used with certain other molecules it can be buffered but I havnt found a combo that really works for me yet.
Not from experience, but i’ve read in a few places how MEO-EST works well in mixes at a very low dose. even 2.5 mcg has been said to increase touchyness in certain mixes
