2.) Does it work o women during their period as well as A1 is supposed to?
3.) I usually see pretty high doses, what dose gives you the best effects?
5.) Does the comfort vibe of MEO-EST ever kill or negatively reduce the effects of None or Rone? Would it kill the Alpha Vibe of A314? Would it kill the Stud vibe of IJ? I want comfort, but I don’t want to be beta’d or friend zoned.
MEO-EST and A1 have different comfort levels from my experience. They actually work pretty well together as long as you work it and balance it with something social. Sometimes too much comfort can be offsetting. The MEO-EST brings a bit more mood elevation than the A1’s deeper comfort feelings.
I have not used it solely when a female is on her period. I’ve always used it around that time in combination to add some different aspects to the mix… A1 for comfort and minimizing of the negative effects of the girls period, Meo-EST for a happier vibe, and sometimes something lightly playful/social like TAA or Shine to add to that happier vibe.
The reason you see high doses is due to a report from Diane a number of years ago stating that “150mcg is Female Happy Sauce”. I have tested up to 200-250 mcg but see the best self and external effects between 100-150 personally. Combining Meo-EST with a couple shots to the neck area for self effects with a couple drops of A314 brings on an extreme confidence and alpha vibe. I would actually consider combining this with A314 and P106 for a super smooth internal feeling.
I answered above at least for A314. I personally get a very confident alpha vibe from the mix. Super calm, cool, collected, but ready to be 100% on point at a moment’s notice if needed, without going too overboard. I think it’s a pure Alpha feeling.
I really like the Meo-EST for it’s self effect properties as well as the external effects on people. I’ve seen positive attitude/mood changes from many a person when wearing it with various other products.
Reclipse hit the nail on the head. Although I wear MEO-EST at about 10mcg with most home-made mixes. I actually find that its the best mcg for usage and at the smaller dosages it adds a bit of intrigue without overpowering your natural abilities.
I hate to think of anyone using such high mcg’s cause its like they are going for the secret “magic” potion, when we all know its about you.
The high mcg thing comes from all the other anecdotal evidence. I should probably snag a to-go of it in a much lower mcg to play with and see what it does in lower doses.
I do particularly like it at the higher dose tho. On it’s own it has a great calming effect on guys (similar to EST) and as I had mentioned, the combo with A314 is awesome. I’m tempted to pair it with P106 and or P99… some interesting ideas in there
smallest they have, which is the one I got, is 12.5 mcg / spray 
Is this stuff really $200 and up, or am I having browser issues?
It is that expensive unless you are a reporting user. Meo-EST is not cheap to make and the high price tag means that only those who are really into testing and reporting are going to be the ones who drop that kinda coin.
Since I now have perfumer’s alcohol I can dilute my 50mcg sprays in a to-go to achieve a much lower amount per spray. I’m excited about this as I really do want to test the lower levels to see where the difference is.
Cool, thanks for the explanation. Sounds fair.
Yea I love my meo-est, I’m going to have to purchase more soon when I run out. I bought it in 25mcg sprays in 30ml bottle. I find that 50-75 mcg works great for me in mixes. I usually mix it with 2 drops of A314, 10mcg p75, and 1-2 sprays ammo. I had some good hits this past weekend off this mix but will be testing this one again this weekend to be sure.
Not to mention, but I’m going to 
, that Methoxyestratetraenone AKA MEO-EST is also noted on several websites and research papers as an equilin estrogen (horse hormone). I’ve read a few studies and did some research and it appears that this particular molecule can be found in humans, but only in damaged breast tissue from breast cancer.
Surely a company like androtics would not offer a product that is dangerous, but all the same some research purports it to be a potential carcinogen to humans. Using a pheromone at 150 mcg like some people are suggesting is quite frankly baffling to me. Why would anyone want to use something in such high dosages when quite clearly they do not know the dangers if any. I remember testing molecules like P83 and TAF in crazy stupid high dosages too, so I’m not innocent here either. I just believe that health is way more important to blindly testing things like this in such high concentrations. Heck I’m even off pheromones for the next 30 days just to recalibrate my own natural abilities. 
It’s funny because the original poster Diane, who is banned and thus cannot state her position, no longer uses it and recommends against its use completely. Of course any molecule at such high concentration is a gamble. Guys what are you doing to yourselves?
Tisha posted something somewhere and I can’t currently find it (perhaps some other site) that androtics might actually name this molecule because the average user here is smarter than most web traffic. Maybe they wanted you to research the name and discover how it might benefit you or adversely effect you. I would hope that the community members here are taking this seriously and as such stop using such a ridiculously high concentration of a molecule that as it stands may not be healthy.
Steve… you remember the conversation that we had 9 months ago??? About using high rates of meo-est? If people are still doing it now, you are banging your head against a brick wall my friend. Even if you told them it will kill them, people will still want to give it a try…
So folks, here’s the naked truth. Meo-est alone wont get you laid…! And if you are going to mix it with other things to direct the mix in a particular direction you only need a little of it… simple
Actually, I never knew about this O_o
I guess I’m going to dilute my stash down to a nice lil 10mcg per spray and see how that does me.
I’ve been thinking about this today while working and if logic is correct this should be something to think about…
mones are chemical messengers to others that tell them you should procreate with that person / makes them look attractive, will have a good genetic combo with the offspring etc… Now if you are sending out the message of cancer you are not going to be high on the list of “have babies with me…” ok so the breast tissue talked about may or may not excrete the mone to a point where it can be detected. But logic would say if its there and only found in that situation, it’s not going to be a good thing is it? Think of the message it possibly sending…
on a lighter note… it could also send out the message that you are hung like a horse!!! 
Well the thing is at 150 mcg its really not very smart. I guess most guys here just don’t care enough about their health and well being if they think it might get them laid. I’m sure this is going to piss some people off but personally I think anyone willing to forgo safety just to get them some shouldn’t be a reporting user. They are not just endangering themselves with unknown chemicals, but others around them. Honestly I’m shocked how anyone can use something in such high concentrations without even doing the research to discover potential risks.
It’s one thing to understand risks and simply ignore them, but you really have to question rational thought when someone doesn’t even put the effort in to begin with. :o
I’m actually running concurrent testing with your theory Steve.
I know we’re so far off from the spectrum in terms of physiology but it’s still interesting how that might affect me. I have since gained weight since I started using pheromones, but it wasn’t because of that (I think) it was cause I did’nt go on the strict diet I’m usually on. Now that I’m exposed everyday, I’m going to see what 30 days brings me.
I’m doing the Insanity Program hybrid with resistance training.
And tracking food intake as well.
Did my measurements when I first started and will take it 30 days from now.
I never really thought of mones to be a potential health risk. I’ll be a bit more wary of what I’m using. Never used more than 50-75mcg and that was only once… I may just throw this out at this point.
What molecules may be considered more dangerous. I know, everything in moderation but Meo-est? og P83? an estrogen derivative that may feminize men? And what about others? TAF?
Well I don’t think pheromones are anything but awesome at reasonable dosages. This is not to ring the alarm bell on something like TUTH, but TUTH doesn’t use 150 mcg, nor does anything else.
What I’m saying is that its just not smart to use something at such high concentrations without knowing what the potentials are. Regardless if its good or bad, you should at least put in the effort to discover how it effects you as to the best of your ability. Isn’t that what true research is about? To me pheromones are to discover their potentials and push along the science. If that means I discover something potentially harmful then I should be just as vocal, but so far they have been a positive impact on my life.
I would say with MEO-EST the jury is still out and there have been “scientific” studies done that correlate this theory. It’s our responsibility as a community of like minded enthusiasts to ensure our safety and well being first and foremost.
I’ve been using mones long before I ever heard of androtics and I’ll be using them long after I’m gone. All I am reminding users here of is please take some consideration for your own well being and remember to think safety and well being first. Make sure you are not just using crazy ridiculous amounts of anything you don’t really know about because some user on here said it got them laid. That is the ultimate insult you can do to yourself. Please think
Afterlife effects on mones ?
I agree, but we don’t really know the negative effects unless we go there. I agree there’s really no reason to go to 150mcg, but who knows. As far as we know there could be something bad happening to us using mones at regular 5-20mcg. We don’t/won’t really know until we do know. But again I agree there’s no great reason to go to such high dosages.
At this point I’m not even using mones just to get laid. I’ve found that it not only has helped make me a better me, but also has made friendships closer. I wrote something to that extent last night here: