MEO-EST questions

p75 right now is one of my absolute favorite mones.

I feel that it has both the status and attraction effects that many look for. and it can be combined with other putatives, experimones, and mixes to add a serious kick.

And you can use in the workplace too.

It’s been a staple of my day to day phero use since i got my 30ml @ 2.5 mcg and is currently one of the main base ingredients in almost all of my mixes

Yea I just got a bottle, can’t wait to use it more, I’ve been trying to keep my usage low because I only had the testing to-go bottle of 5mcg spray… Time to get to work! :smiley:

P75 has been a mixed bag for me.. maybe its time to go back haven’t touched it in awhile.

Bah, now i have P96 to test too! I might wait for that one as I only have one to-go and want to be thorough. More P75 for now :slight_smile:

I’m just waiting on my p96 to get here so I can test the 2 together :wink:

Strong comfort/connection from the p96 and strong attraction/presence from the p75. mmmm I cannot WAIT til my p96 gets here

Yea I have no idea what the P96 does yet, but I might have to test the P96 alone right now so I can try them together soon :smiley:
Might be great with just the two too… maybe some IH on top.
Now I can’t wait until tonight! :smiley:

dammit i’m so jealous that you have your p96 already

when did you order it?

i sent my order in last monday so it should be finishing up and on it’s way soon. I want to test it solo for a quick minute around someone and then if I see favorable response then i’m going to do additional tests and start making some mixes with it…

I got some KILLER ideas if it provides the type of comfort and bonding that it’s reported to. Possibly something that could offset the ‘fallout’ possessive effect of a314/mx347 but still create a long and positive lasting memory effect.

But first and foremost I have to test it solo or at least in combination with products/putatives/mx’s that I have a good knowledge of.

I hope it gets here sooooon

Yea I’ve waited for the last order for a bit now, since they’ve been making changes with a lot, and gaining new staff and everything. I somehow got it really fast. I got the letter that it was sent to me not too long ago and I got it today.

Yea I have to test them solo at least twice around someone to just get a feel for it myself. Don’t have to have it absolutely 100% down to start mixing with it but have to have a baseline idea of what it is, how it feels and how it mixes with other people. Yea I had no idea what it did but if it does comfort and bonding well that could be a fantastic thing to add to mixes!

Hey all.

About MEO-est being harmful to humans, Diane provided these sources for her opinions. The first source is her reason for refusing to use -none in mixes, she had claimed that “it was not a known human pheromone,” “a byproduct of bacteria on the skin” and was not “produced by humans.”

Someone wanting to inquire further should do some reading- Whenever anyone says “Hey! Don’t use this! It causes cancer!” I like to see some sources, so to google I went.

My intuition is that spraying MEO-est on your skin for a few hours probably isn’t as dangerous as smoking a cigarette.

  1. On the trigeminal percept of androstenone and its implications on the rate of specific anosmia. Boyle JA, Lundström JN, Knecht M, Jones-Gotman M, Schaal B, Hummel T. Montreal Neurological Institute, McGill University, Montreal, Canada. J Neurobiol. 2006 Nov;66(13):1501-10.

  2. Potential Mechanisms of Estrogen Quinone Carcinogenesis, Judy L. Bolton and Gregory R. J. Thatcher, Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy (M/C 781), College of Pharmacy, University of Illinois at Chicago, 833 South Wood Street, Chicago, Illinois, 60612-7231Chem. Res. Toxicol., 2008, 21 (1), pp 93–101

  3. Synthesis of the Equine Estrogen Metabolites 2-Hydroxyequilin and 2-Hydroxyequilenin, Fagen Zhang and Judy L. Bolton, Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy (M/C 781), College of Pharmacy, University of Illinois at Chicago, 833 South Wood Street, Chicago, Illinois 60612-7231Chem. Res. Toxicol., 1999, 12 (2), pp 200–203

  4. Detection of estrogen DNA-adducts in human breast tumor tissue and healthy tissue by combined nano LC-nano ES tandem mass spectrometry. J. Embrechtsa, F. Lemièrea, W. Van Dongena, E. L. Esmansa, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author, P. Buytaertb, E. Van Marckc, M. Kockxd and A. Makare. Journal of the American Society for Mass Spectrometry, Volume 14, Issue 5, May 2003, Pages 482-491

Exactly why I said it wouldn’t be an issue as far as I could tell but why risk it anyway. Small amounts of benzyne on your skin from gasoline probably wont cause cancer either, but why take the chance. Also the thing is that many people here were using 150 mcg of MEO-EST at a pop based on Diane’s reports that it was the only way to get results :slight_smile:. That’s why I brought up her stance now.:wink: