I know some of you are into meditation so I am wondering if anyone here is also into mind machines (sound/light). I was a participant in the Princeton University research project some years ago. I have used them ever since.
Wondering what type of pheromones you might use with them to garner what results.
I remember that too! I had found some old posts on it, but not sure I’d be willing to pay what I suspect it would cost. I am hoping I could use what I have. I do plan on experimenting, but that can lead to less than desirable affects especially using mind machines.
I guess I’ll have to try it with standard meditation first and see what happens.
I really tried meditation for many years and I never seem to have accomplished any altered state. A friend, a Princeton professor, was experimenting with sound/light back before anything was ever done on it. He knew I had tried and hooked me up to some machines that measure Theta, Alpha, Beta patterns and after 1 hour meditation my brain activity was very close to normal.
Then I tried the machine: At that time it was a BIG machine with a separate console room. Within mere minutes I was induced in a deep trance and used them ever since.
I have to order some more stuff it looks like, and here I though i had some pretty good supplies.
Have you tried guided meditation? I guess it is possible a CD might turn out to be almost as good - I don’t know how important the presence and energy of the practitioner might turn out to be. Also, involving the body in some way - whether massage or rocking/whirling like the sufis do.
Also, I wonder once certain states become habitually accessessed whether one will be more easily able to reach them without any assistance.
Do you reach altered states from listening to music eg deep house/trance or certain kinds of percussion? I do, quite easily, but haven’t tried to do anything with such states. Lloyd Glauberman - who I think was an amateur drummer - uses that quite effectively in some of his hypnosis CDs, both to help enter the trance and as a motif when talking about patterns in one’s life.
(Oh and I second tacitus in suggesting you check his work out when time).
Quirk, have you used Glauberman’s Resilience CD? That’s one I think tacitus recommended highly and I’ve been eyeing it … do you have any specific recs/reviews of his offerings?
I’ve tried guided with CD’s many a time. I still, (mental block) cannot seem to induce trance unless I’m wired up to my machine.
The closest I can come to trance without the machine is through an old Mickey Hart (grateful Dead) tribal drum CD that is used predominetly for trance. I’ll be looking into Lloyd’s stuff!
You know when I read this I was thinking I recognized the name: Lloyd.
Wouldn’t you believe it as soon as I posted I checked my mail and I just got a CD by Lloyd: HPP! I forgot I had even ordered it with my last Bi-naural CD order.
Yes - and it’s really charming and fun to listen to. The problem is that I have been working on myself so much since November that it is hard to know what to attribute to what. [The rolfing was definitely a big piece of that, by the way - so thank you]. I feel like the Glauberman stuff has led to a significant change in core beliefs and behaviour, but I would be hard pressed to justify that.
Glauberman’s stuff is pirated on the torrents - I don’t advocate that at all, and I bought most of of the titles available for download from mindperk.com (I have enough for like daily listening for the next year or so but if you want to try first, it’s possible that might work.
HPPforums.com :: Index and google his name to find a couple of interesting interviews with the guy. his work is very well done - listening to it has something of the enjoyment of putting on a well-crafted pair of shoes.
but if you want to try first, it’s possible that might work.