Marijauana, Pheromones, and Meditation?

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What IF someone were to try Marijauana, Pheromones, and Meditation in combination such as:

5 Hits of high grade Marijuana then a hot shower
then 5 Sprays to face and neck of Spaceland
then Meditation for 30 minutes

How would that meditation differ from a sober meditation?

Perhaps:
-an enormous feeling of emotion and oneness about 10 minutes into the meditation

-an extremeley calm mind - the opposite of thoughts flying around a million times a second…ie “monkey mind”

-enhanced ability to focus on one thing

-breathing that is much deeper and fuller than usual

-when thoughts do run through a calmer mind, they are very positive, forward thinking, and some were quite creative (which should subsequently be written down)

-the emotions from the thoughts tended to be fuller, in an experience that is hard to describe - just so real.

-This state of mind and feeling of oneness stayed with the person for the rest of the day, even after washing off the pheromones (with acne soap and cotton w/ acne astringent)

-one insight that could be felt: the sense that ones thoughts and actions are much more powerful than originally thought - that ones thoughts and actions have a greater impact on the world than is comprehensible through the 5 senses - a feeling of certainty that this is true..

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Ok… so step one and step 2 are doable..
but “then Meditation for 30 minutes”

it will be almost imposable to do it after the “5 Hits of high grade Marijuana”
… well you can if the Marijuana is “drugged” with other stuff.

Basically if you do step one and step 2 you will probably end up laughing you guts out.

I have tested this with shine and step one …(3 years ago) and… well everyone had the time of their life. :smiley:
but i wont repeat this test again … the next day was really horrible

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nice I’ve been doing some ‘testing’ with these also… Mones add like a smooth ride if that makes sense

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I could not disagree more..Take a long hot calming shower after the 5 hits…the concentration and focus will be there, albeit in an altered state of mind..

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My deepest cannabis moments occured long before the commercial availability of pheromones… and my pheromone moments occured long after I’d given up cannabis..

That said, far and away my most profound cannabis moments happened when I used an early generation mind machine, the venerable Hemi-Sync associated with the Monroe Institute.

I’d suspect that modern brain syncronization approaches ranging from machines, softwares like Neuroprogrammer and SHARM, and the many products on CD would have a profound effect with cannabis.

When I combined high grade hydroponic bud with the Theta state on the Hemi-Sync, the results were so powerful I felt like I had stepped into the brain of an ancient Zen master… it was so far beyond being “high” it was ridiculous, it was a completely distinct dimension of awareness, a place I had never been nor had any idea it was possible to go to. Fair to say that it was epistemelogically life changing… it gave me a new, and durable perspective on what it meant to experience reality… and strangly, it was clearer and more meaningful that psilocybin and other psychedelics. Although, possibly, psychedelics and mind technologies may attain another level of consciousness as well.

My mental travels today are limited to meditation/brain synchronization CDs and my two Photosonix machies, one old generation and one new generation. One thing that I have noticed is that playback quality greatly affects the level of meditation experience… when I switched from the internal headphone amp on the CD player to the Headroom Max (an out of production, fantastically good headphone amp) the CDs sounded like new recordings that I hadn’t heard before… so I think there is a lot of deeply encoded, hard to extract subtle awareness material in many of these disks, if you’re going for state of the art mind, you might need to invest in a worthy set-up…

I did have one chance to smoke a little righteous bud a younger friend had, maybe 3 years ago, when I had just gotten my first supply of Prevagen, a brain similar calcium regulating protein known as Apoaequorin, one of the LH Hand proteins that can stabilize human brain cells and reduce the rate at which they age and die off. This is manufactured by a company known as Quincy Biosciences. Anyway, I found that 40 milligrams of Prevagen about 10-15 minutes pre-bud on an empty stomach (make sure no milk or other calcium rich foods until it absorbs) also changed the experience very, very positively… it seems to give it a Hennesy V.S.O.P. clarity and refinement, all the background noise and useless mind chatter clears away and you get this amazing crystalline, elegant clarity… knowing what I know now, I would consider cannabis minus Prevagen a waste of good cannabis… definitely a YMMV situation but worth testing.

Putting it all together, if I were back in the day, and knew then what I know now, I’d probably combine one of the new Uber-weeds, Prevagen, the Theta Meditation System, and a killer player/headphone amp combination, then go out and have some mindbending sex with a couple of mad witches… I was born too soon I think…:smiley:

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Yes, I should mention that I do use in my daily meditation the brainwave binaural beats (the ability of the brain to sync with the beats associated with frequencies of mind -such as Theta - that are associated with deep relaxation states) technology.

I have a bunch of great stuff:
Dane Spotts - Ultra Meditation
Dr. Jeffrey Thompson - Theta Meditation System
IMusic- Boxed Set

If anyone would like a sample track, PM me.

I listen on my Ipod to the beats in loss-less quality (ripped to Apple Loss-less format) on a set of top of the line Shure earbuds that retail for over $500.

Interesting! I wonder if there are headphones that can attach to the digital port of the I-pod?

Never heard of Prevagen but that sounds quite interesting. I’d like to learn more about it..The rest of that combo has been tried and does most definitely induce an altered consciousness.

Tacitus, I guess you are much older than me (29 yr old)…

The neuro technology sure does have that effect with Cannabis :wink: And an even greater effect with a high Mcg of pheromones..such as Spaceland or high amounts of B-nol..

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Prevagen is incredibly interesting stuff… I take 80 mg (4x the 20 mg Prevagen Pro capsule) per night on going to bed, with 5 mg of Melatonin… def. has the feeling of rejuvenating my brain… like the aging (53 year old) brain is seriously losing its own Calcium Binding Proteins, my head doesn’t feel medicated, it feels younger… there a huge difference…

I had stumbled across it in a health food store in Seattle. Took 20 mg I think, noticed my general vision and color perception quickly became clearer, I guess younger people really DO see differently… I mean, at the level of visual processing, kind of deeper, cleaner… very hard to describe…

My pal, a Polish guy in his late 20s with the boo-ray took 20 mg and said it made his brain feel “warm”…

Anyway, we partook of his miniscule stash, maybe a half gram, took some prevagen, and went driving through the mountains in Colorado listening to old Eno tracks… the sensation was indescribable…

As far as your deep listening goes… there are many subtle points that hardcore afficionados know about for maximal mental involvement, some of them are prob. too technical to explain here… one of the major problems with iPod type delivery systems is that they have unstable master oscillators, so the sound is OK on one level but blurry and confused on a micro level.. so some of the magic can get lost.

Because of that I think the podders aren’t getting the full benefit of the technology…

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Interesting…

Just read a little bit about Prevagen - seems that it adds to calcium to the brain to prevent cells from dying so quickly. Then I read that it’s physically not possible to add calcium to the brain through ingestion. Perhaps something else is at work here. Perhaps in the same way that phero’s work without the VNO.

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BTW, you can capture the digital out from the iPod through a Wadia iPod dock… it stays in the digital file format though so you’d also have to send that through a converter… Headroom makes integrated converter/headphone amps but I don’t know if the do MP3…

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Ah… confusing literature… yes, it does work, impressively too, but the story is more complex…

The Calcium Binding Protein (CPB) is taken from a species of jellyfish which needs to carefully regulate it’s calcium levels, the CPB DNA was snipped out of the jellyfish gene and inserted into a yeast. Quincy grows the yeast in tanks and then extracts the Apoaequorin. It seems that there is a transport mechanism already present in humans (and “escort protein”) that recognizes the Apoaequorin and transports it efficiently from the stomach across the blood brain barrier…

The purpose of the CPB is to carefully regulate the calcium level INSIDE of the brain cell… seems that when humans stress out their brain allows too much calcium to cross the cellular membrane, which initiates a subtle inflammation response which, unchecked can lead to cellular deterioration or cellular death…

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Anyway, I now believe that some of the less desirable effect of cannabis are the result of opening calcium channels which can lead to anxiety, edginess, etc… so you can reduce the negaives while enjoying the positives…

Too much cannabis, too frequently, I think is a bad thing and probably indicative of underlying emotional problems… never have known any hardcore user that was in a very good place, psychic energy wise…

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I agree…maybe once a week at most..

Interesting, perhaps I’ll try that Prevagen…

On another note, my computer does output digital Toslink audio so perhaps there are headphones with Toslink inputs..as another way to get the cleanest audio signal possible..

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BTW… you’ve got to try Thompson’s other one, Gamma Meditation System, I was um… sexuously chilling with the cute 27 year old girl, we’d get totally bombed on intense pheromone salads, put on the Gamma CD, get covered from head to toe with slithery silicone… and the rest was history..:smiley::smiley::smiley: