I’ve bought A314, Instant Shine and TUTH. I’ve used them for about 2 months the way I’ve read on the forum, and those products don’t seems to work better than a placebo would.
I put mones in the same category as energy crystals, astrology and other pseudosciences…
What should I do?
How, where have you been using them, how much and how old are you?
Also have you been going out of your way to meet people, make conversation or engage with them - it all counts.
Hi mobocaster, and thanks for your answer.
I’m 32. Yesterday evening when going out with friends I tried 2-3 drops of A314 under each ear + 3 * TUTH on my throat, didn’t notice anything different than usual.
Like most people, I don’t like engaging conversation with unknown girls, so don’t really do it. I haven’t changed that behaviour. Will try making the effort. But I wonder if mones really make any change in that case…
You use too many mones in the same time, there is Androstenone in A314 and Tuth.
Use TUTH just before the close when the atmosphere is hot or in NightClub.
A314 is good for social and not the best for night seduction (but it’s better with than without).
With mones you have, you could use 1-2 drops of A314 and some sprays of IS, then one spray of TUTH when it’s warming.
Mones aren’t magic, they can improve you seduction skills but if you do nothing; nothing can happen.
Meaning that neither usage of TUTH nor A314 is useful if you don’t engage in conversations with the ladies, Blackbird.
btw, you sound familiar, somehow. Are you a member of any other forum(s) other than this PheroTalk forum?
Have you been getting any hits from women around? By that I mean IOI’s. By how this sounds is like you are not getting any encouragement to be social or to flirt with girls at all since you are getting zero hits.
If I didn’t notice any girl giving me attention and giving me an approach invitation, then naturally you don’t want to risk getting rejected. Pheromones are supposed to help in that department so that women showing strong IOI’s and it’s a cake-walk to approach. Otherwise what is the point?
If this is the case, then people shouldn’t be telling you that it’s your fault for not engaging in conversations. The point of using pheromones is to feel like you have a presence and the girls/ladies are noticing you. What normal guy wouldn’t want to talk to a girl that’s giving IOI’s or DILH looks?
At the very least, guys should be upset with you or you should be repelling guys since they should feel you are in competition to them. If your friends are showing no effect, and they are guys, and you are not a threat to them, then probably something is really wrong.
Thanks for the answers. Yeah on Saturday I put quite a lot, to test. I started with a little amount of mones a few weeks back, and since I didn’t see any difference I thought of putting more. I never use TUTH outside nightlife, so I’ve rarely used it so far.
@Nali: I haven’t been very active on forums lately. I sometimes write about lucid dreaming, maybe there? Haven’t written on another pheromones forum, I’m a newbie on the matter.
That is a lot of A314 - enought to seem very remote and standoffish to some people.
Also, TUTH in that mix will send a very powerful/no-nonsense sexual signal that whilst good in some environments, will not go-well in others. And you will have to engage people with a mix like that-on but they will not be thinking small-talk!
I did some more testing yesterday evening, at home (I live alone): 4 sprays of Instant Shine. Result: no effect felt.
To compare: 1 beer, or 1 coffee, has some clear effect on my brain, and for some other products as low as 50 micrograms can be enough lol 
You wrote about lucid dreaming in which forum, btw?
Anyway have you tried three sprays of IShine on each of your wrists and two behind your ears (two sprays per ear), Blackbird?
Don’t bank on pheros giving you any self effects at all - This side of things is highly variable between individuals. Its the response of others that matters and yes, even that can be variable.
And if you are used to the effects of other “chemicals” - then yes, any psyhoactive properties of pheros will fall far short. Although for me, a whopping dose of alphanol and a couple of brandies can be quite pleasant! 
i gotta agree with mobo.self effects doesn’t last long.it’s awesome in the beginning but soon will be diminished.i hardly get self effects these days but remember this! even though you don’t feel jack,but your targets REALLY feel it.yeah i know it can be abit tough,but look for the signs.body language says it all
i gotta agree with mobo.self effects doesn’t last long.it’s awesome in the beginning but soon will be diminished.i hardly get self effects these days but remember this! even though you don’t feel jack,but your targets REALLY feel it.yeah i know it can be abit tough,but look for the signs.body language says it all
It’s funny, if we all grew up learning about pheromones and energy crystals…we would develop our natural skills of perception and there would be no doubt that they work. If you don’t work on your own social skills you may never notice that anything is happening. If you still end up thinking they do nothing you could always take advantage of the money back guarantee. Good luck. 
I too have found absolutely no results from Pheros. By no results, i mean no differences in pick-up between using and not using.
So for example, on average if I pick up 1 woman a week without using pheros, that numbers stays the same if I do use pheros.
Tried the whole “OD” thing, by using cops and androstenone, but didn’t even get the aggressive behaviors from men, or ghosting from women.
I’m fairly attractive with an outgoing personality and above average dress sense. Never really had problems with dating, just wanted to use pheros for the work environment, and to get better quality women. So far, hasn’t done squat after months of testing. Not for a lack of trying either. I go out pretty much every weekend, sometimes both Fri and Sat nights.
To be honest, it seems like everyone’s response with Pheros is, YOU"RE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH. Pheros aren’t some magic potion.
Yeah we get that. But if i’m going to go out and try super hard to try to get a chick, then that’s ME that was successful in doing that. Not the pheros…in which case…why use pheros.
I’m not some random person who bought a bottle of TUTH, and said oh lookie here, let’s try 5 sprays and see if it works. No. I’ve followed the methods in the forums, start lowest dosage for a few days, use it solo to see its effects, and then move on to next product or dosage. I quite literally see nothing. Which is kind of proof to myself that they dont’ really work quite as well as people claim they do, because i really WANT them to work. Human psychology works in such a way, that if you really WANT something to work, you will automatically attribute any successes to that product, even if it was a placebo.
Tried everything in the instant line except instant jerk. Used TAC,Ammo, A314, TUTH, some of steve’s products, and a bunch of putatives. P74,75,83,102,130.
Admittedly, I have yet to do extensive testing on the putatives, with the exception of p83, which I’ve used on numerous occasions.
So my review isn’t conclusive yet. Who knows, maybe the putatives i haven’t really played with in depth are the magic ones that will work for me. But as of this moment, it kind of seems like a placebo to me. And if that upsets you people on the forum…sorry? Just telling the truth and my own experiences with it in a respectful manner. Spent over 500 dollars to make sure I gave pheros a fair shot, and gave it a few months of testing as well. Being a science background person, I follow the procedure to a T without skipping steps. And so far I’m not too impressed.
oh and there are two aspects of pheromone usage that have confused me and I have not found an acceptable answer no matter how much I scoured these forums.
First oddity is that why would pheromones affect others so strongly, but not yourself? It really shouldn’t matter if I’m in a small room with one other person, then it shouldn’t matter who the TUTH is sprayed on. There is still the same amount of pheromones being released into the air (obviously a small variation in diffusion due to body temperature differences). So why does that pheromone cloud affect person B, but not Me? Like, this is such a break in logic that I do not understand why this isn’t brought up more frequently. If I spray 10 sprays of TUTH onto a chair in the middle of the room, everyone should be affected by it. Just because I sprayed it 2 feet to the left, onto my body, should not somehow mean I am immune to TUTH’s effects now.
I’m only using TUTH as an example. Other pheromones apply as well.
Second thing that makes no sense about pheros is that when you’re out in a club setting, how the HECK does anyone know who the phero cloud is coming from. We don’t have a VNO that can triangulate, ohh it’s that guy standing 6 feet away to my left. Not the guy 8 inches to his right. Nor the guy 8 inches to his left. It seems to be counterproductive to wear pheros to a club if all you end up doing is turning the girl on, but she has no idea because of who.
And the people who say, that’s why you go approach her and talk to her. Have you ever tried to spit game in a club? If you say yes, and it’s easy, then you either got the voicebox of an opera singer, or you’re lying. You can barely hear anything. Ever. It seems like even if Pheros do work, you’re wasting your money making girls horny around you, but if they don’t know it’s you, they might just go with the guy 10 inches to your left.
Can someone explain these two extremely illogical situations regarding pheromones?