:(Okay I m hyped by the forums and the discovery of this new science. I do my homework and order some testers to see if what I ve read is true. I order the shine…wear 2 days and see if people are drawn to me more…nope. I put on turn up the heat and go around some perspectives who i would love to turn on…nope. I wear a new product called mystery boy and interact with some bicurious persons and nothing still. Somebody please tell me what is going on and how to get these mones working…lol. I love the smell and the packaging…and the customer care is excellent but I need results or direction…help…
Telling us how much you’ve been using and in what situations will help us. And keep in mind a lot of it depends on you and how you act. I can bathe in pheromones, but if I’m a wall flower I won’t see any results. Some people have reported using up to 6 sprays (1x) IS before noticing effects on themselves or others. It’s basically impossible to OD on IS so go ahead and up the doseage and see what happens. TUTH by itself is not easy to pull off. You may have come off as overly aggressive or overtly sexual and “ghosted” (become invisible because of people ignoring you). I don’t have any experience with mystery boy so I can’t comment on that, but if a person is not interested in you to begin with, pheromones won’t make them jump all over you.
Another thing to remember is that while some of the reports on here are outrageous, most of your results will be subtle. There are a some good sticky threads that help describe these stuble effects in more detail. When I first started I had no idea what to look for. I was just packing on pheromones and waiting for something obvious to happen. But then I learned to be more observent and started noticing subtle things like people standing closer to me than usual, girls leaning towards me in their seats during class, people hanging around me for longer periods of time or waiting for me to finish what I was doing so that they could walk with me. A couple others include girls exposing certain parts of their body or turning their body towards you (even if they aren’t looking at you). These are just a few of the things I’m talking about.
Have patience. The most common mistake is people expecting too much too soon. We all do it, even I did. The important thing is to learn. Every time you use pheromones you can learn something new about them, or re-affirm something you already knew about them.
I feel you…Okay I sprayed instant shine on neck, hair and wrist. I am at work and I am agressive by most descriptive although I dont see it. I walk up to various people and start conversation surrounding my line of business and I m curious to see if they respond to me more pleasantly and agreeably. I look to see if they linger or engage more and it doesn’t anymore than usual. Oddly enough I dont know if they smell it or not because I dont after 5 minutes.
what is a sticky thread…
I am not very agressive when it comes to overt sexuality especially if I am not sure about your attraction. But if they are already attracted I can pull it off without phermones…I wanted to see if the tuth would evoke a more overt response for suppressed attractives…
I will wait and see as time goes on…and look for the subtle…almost ready to lose heart…but I ll keep spraying…lol
You just started, don’t give up so soon. Sticky threads are the posts at the very top of the Men’s forum main page. If people are describing you as aggressive, then TUTH is the exact opposite thing you want to use. I wasn’t saying that you are necessarily overtly sexual, but TUTH can sometimes make you come off like that, especially if you don’t have any social pheromones on to buffer it. I’d suggest getting Instant Openness or Instant Honesty and seeing how those work for you. They can lighten you up a bit and tone down the way people see you as aggressive.
Even though I’ve just started using them as well, Scott is telling some truth here. You cannot put on some TUTH and expect to have someone in your bed by the end of the night. There are alot of factors at work here when using these Pheromones. In fact, I would say if its your very first time using mones, I would say start using the socials first, since it is easier to see the effects; they are much more versatile than the sexual mones. Plus, they are not as “aggressive” and you can rather safely OD on them. OD’ing on more aggressive -none can get people pissed off at you (I havent experienced this yet because I havent OD’d on TUTH yet, but Ive read this consistently on the forum.)
What I’ve learned so far is that mones are not magic. Even if you wear Instant Openness, which is supposed to make people more talkative, if you sit and keep to yourself, you will not get approached.
There are a number of factors at work here in which everyone should take into consideration:
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Not everyone is affected by a certain pheromone as much as someone else is.
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Some people are affected by a pheromone in a certain time of day.
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A person’s mood affects how they will respond to you.
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The environment is a very important part of pheromone hits. If you wear a sexual pheromone in an area where it is not socially accepted for them to grab your ass, then the chances of you getting a real hit is lowered.
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What combination of pheromones you are wearing is very important, and also your own body chemistry. Some people produce more natural -none, while some produce more natural -nols. I have had to bump up the sprays of Instant Shine to 6 sprays for me to finally get a little “high” off of it.
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If you know the person or not also affects the results. I have been finding out that people in which you live with have different, or some would say, “more subtle” reactions with the mones, particularly the social. (I havent been able to comment on the sexual ones yet). When meeting people in an environment that is not the home, and meeting people which you do not meet on a regular, consistent basis, you will get stronger reactions.
Most of the “hits” we talk about are subtle. Pheromones are not mind control. They are more like clothing, or better yet, music.
Pheromones set the mood.
Thats probably the best way to put it. If you put on “Pour Some Sugar on Me” (Turn up the Heat) at the office, people may, inside of their heads, THINK of sex, but since they are at work, they will quickly push that thought out of their minds like they were trained to do and continue on, perhaps a little shaken.
But, if you put on some “Born to Run” (Instant Shine) you may get some “hits”. Meaning: people may seem a bit more happier than they are around you MORE SO THAN USUAL. If you wear some Beatles song, (Instant Openness) people may see you as a bit more approachable, and they may be willing to talk to you MORE SO THAN USUAL. If you put on some Opera, (A314) people may respect you and think highly of you, more so than usual.
They key here is to COMPARE the vibe and the reactions you get when wearing the product and when not. Then you will see hits. Like I said, pheromones set the mood, they are not “magic” but they assist you in which areas they are suited for.
Today I wore about x6 Instant Shine, x4 Open, and x2 Come talk to me, with a spray of p79. Now even with this pheromone dosage which is pretty high, i didnt get people rushing up to me to talk; but, my friends were a bit more talkative with me than usual, and I just met a certain female who was a bit more open, friendly, and flirty with me THAN USUAL.
You have to compare. Wear one day with mones, and then one day without. In fact, as a general rule, you should never really wear mones every day, because like every sort of drug and enhancement, the effect wears off if you wear it all the time. EDIT: Of course, there are exceptions, Phero vets obviously dont follow this rule and dont need to…but it can be a real drain on your wallet if you wear it every day. I decided I would wear them when I would come into contact with people the most. A314 is the only exception, its an oil base and it lasts a long time.
great response! Mones enhance and attract, but it won’t change anything. Your look, wealth, height, status, education, social skills, charm, etc will all factor in too, when it comes to attraction!
Instant Shine hits can be hard to see at dosages of less than High. I was unable to see any effect from it for a long time, and later on I looked back and realized, “Holy cow! How could I have missed this hit, and that hit, and this other hit?!” Instant Shine 1x seems to do best starting with 4 sprays and going up from there for me. I use 30 mL bottles, so I will need slightly less in sprays than you do if you’re using a to-go bottle. Try using more.
TUTH is a great mix, but it has to be used skillfully. While you are learning, you must must MUST know how to observe properly, be observant enough, and try to be congruent with the pheromones you are wearing.
TUTH will get you laid by itself maybe 1 time out of a thousand… at best… in common social circumstances. In an established relationship, that jumps sky high if she likes TUTH because the social barriers are already breached, and she doesn’t have to worry about what people will think if she jumps you out of the blue. But if you put on a spray of TUTH and game her some… and then put on another spray an hour later and game her some more… and then a third spray and some more game… it’s not hard at all to end up in bed with a girl you just met in one day.
Not that I think you should do that. Just showing that it’s possible. You also have to pay attention to her IOIs and be the man (make the moves). Women will rarely make the moves for you.
Yes! thats the deal. Its like in sports. TUTH is there to assist you, but you still have to make the goal. TUTH may set the mood for her, but you still have to let her know that you want her. Its a mood enhancer.