So there’s this girl I see walking past my work every few days. Sometimes she comes in to buy shit. But she’s usually alone (sometimes has a friend). She’s probably no older than 17. But she has that major bitch look to her. That “I’m too good to talk to anyone. Don’t piss me off” look. The kind that never smile.
Being a partial PUA, I happen to know that these girls are just like every other girl on the inside. They just have that look. That front… I highly suspect she, like all girls, are NOT a bitch if you just say something to her.
Anyway, this being Pherotalk, not a PUA board, my specific question is what type of mones combination do you think would be best on a girl like this type?
I’m thinking IO, Instant Shine, AMMO, IG. IO and IS are self explanatory. Ammo to add that sexual attraction spark. And IG to cool her potential “I’m going to bite your head off”.
OR, IO, IS, IJ. The IJ is to match her. She probably has guys who don’t know her being too afraid to open her, chat her, etc, because of that bitch look she puts off. If some jerk were to put her in her place, playfully, I suspect it really takes those girls out of their shell to think “wow this guy is different than the rest”. As well as that sexual element IJ provides.
Anyway, I’m not intent on getting this CERTAIN girl, but I was just curious as to what you guys think would be best combinations on girls such as these.
I think you’re on the right track. IO and IJ seems like a logical idea. Science she cOmes around regularly you could always play around with combos. If you build a rapport with her, she can be an excellent person to try out MX’s and such.
I actually dont see her IN my work that often. Very rarely. But she walks by all the time. And no I’m not in the business of hanging around outside my work place to catch her and try shit out on her haha. I just wanted to discuss a situation like this and what mones would work.
Seeing as she doesn’t come IN my work very often at all, experimenting for her in particular would be a waste of time. Not to mention wearing IJ at work. Besides that, many people tell me that I personally come off as distant and have that “Not interested, don’t talk to me” vibe. And rightly so, aside from attractive women, I really don’t want customers trying to talk to me all the time. Many do anyway. Haha. But I guess I can say that I probably have that same vibe she gives off, except I tone it down toward attractive women.
That bitch look could also be her life sux right about now. Everyone and their fuckin dog could be messing with her. Just do the socials until you actually know if she’s a bitch. I get told I’m always serious - I just don’t walk around with an idiot grin on my face all day for no reason.
I think it’s just her look and the way she carries herself. Nothing in the moment. That’s just how some girls are. I think more than anything these types of girls do it to try to IMPLY higher value.
You said she’s 17. She probably doesn’t even know what you mean by ‘higher value’. FGS, she’s probably still in high school. Your penalizing her for her facial expression? She’s probably not even aware of ‘how she looks’ to other people.
I disagree. I think people (moreso girls than guys) are aware of stuff like that. That would be like saying girls that age don’t know how nor intentionally dress sexy.
They don’t. I’ve yet to see a non-celebrity child dress in a “sexy” manner. Skanky, garish, slutty and tasteless - yes; cute, and dress up; try hard; and wannabe - yes. But sexy? @ 17? Are you really going there? It’s play acting; practice, but in no way the real thing - with an understanding of what that entails.
If she indeed is a chronic “bitch” and not just having a bad day (then again, you don’t sound to you know her too well to know this), then some A314 or A1 can fix the problem.
A1 or MX412: Perhaps she’s constantly stressed out. A1 or the A1 alternative, MX412, has shown to relieve all kinds of stress in girls, whether it be PMS, lack of sleep, etc. However, if you are depression prone, I would avoid A1 and go for MX412, and even if you’re not, it can still affect other guys around you in a negative way.
A314: If she is the type of girls that believes she is high status, some A314 can take you so you end up on the same level as her (respect wise). However, remember to find your sweet spot because too much and she’ll be intimidated, and she’ll exert the opposite effects that your’re looking for.
She’s 17 and you’re 27! Who cares what would work or not work? Regardless of wht your intent is or is not, as you mentioned above, she is 17 and you’re 27.
There are women everywhere that are legal age. I just don’t know what to think here, but wow!
No offence, but if you read past the first few words, you would have read where on 2 occasions I said that I was not actually going to attempt to pursue this particular girl, but rather wanted to discuss these TYPES of girls and the types of mones that would work best on them. In fact I made that painstakingly clear. Not because I have a problem with the age, but as I said, because the girl does not frequent my work place enough for me to justify bothering.
And for your information, not everyone lives in the same location as you. Laws are not universal around the world to where you particularly live. 16 is legal where I live. To take a quote from someone, “I just don’t know what to think here, but wow!”
No offense taken because I’m not the 27 year old man writing about how to seduce a 17 year old girl (hypothetically of course ). I don’t actually care where you live, but a child is a child. Your original post, that I took the liberty of quoting again, says you may not be intent on getting her, but it sure doesn’t say you are not going to go for it. Just your reply to me that its legal for you to consort with a 16 year old where you live says enough for me.
Most guys therefore, would say “some women” and not identify with a particular one that happens to be 17 and then point out that it would be ok legally to go with a 16 year old.
Anyway just my opinion and no offense but again: “I just don’t know what to think here, but wow!”
I agree that you read liberally for your own purposes of thought rather than for seeing things as they are.
I use examples in my reasoning. The reason I brought the topic up was because I noticed that’s how she is, and used her as an example. In no way did I say I was intent on getting her, but in no way did I say I was absolutely not interested in her either.
I suggest you re-analyze your little “You said you have no intent of getting her, but that doesn’t mean you won’t” statement in which you have concluded by that statement that I am for sure going after a 17 year old. That’s like saying “Hey, you said you have no intent on killing this person, but that doesn’t mean you’re not going to. Therefore, guilty of intent of murder.” Ridiculous, right?
I specifically responded to your “age legality” comment to INFORM you that laws are not the same as where you live. No, just because I choose to inform you on something, it is not an admission of my intent to defend myself and therefore go after this particular girl. Quite a liberal interpretation of yet another statement I must say. Let me give you another analogy.
You: Murder is defined as blah blah
Me: Actually murder is defined as blah blah
You: A HAH. So you’re planning on murdering someone!!
With that, it is clear you’re not in a position to provide neutral input. You’ve interpreted something in a way that was incorrect, made a statement that was incorrect, and now you’re going to interpret things in a fashion to defend your statement rather than to seek the truth. At this point, back and forth with you would be useless. It would be on the same level as arguing with a 3 year old. You don’t seek the truth, you seek to defend your ego and pride in that you (quite obviously, and if you don’t then you have something wrong with you) made an outlandish statement that was baseless and at best fishing, and now you’re feeling like a fool and in need to defend it to reassert your mindset that you’re not wrong about something.
Just realize, you made a statement in haste, it wasn’t thought through very well, and now you’re looking for anything at all, including twisted interpretations, in order to assert that you were right all along and that I have somehow intended to perform actions that I in no way said I was attempting to do.
Because it is obvious that you will not follow logic and are not seeking the truth, but rather to defend your position whether or not you even believe it to be a correct interpretation at this point, consider this the end of discussion with you concerning this. If you continue to post on this matter I will not only not reply to it (and please don’t interpret that as to meaning that you got me and that I am so blown away by you outting me that I have no way to defend myself further). Further, if you continue to post on this matter, I hope others will see that you’re extremely immature and cannot let the issue drop, which adds to the fact that you cannot tolerate being wrong about something and would rather continue to press false information and suggestions simply in order to have appeared to have been correct all along.
Canada Changed it’s Age of Consent Laws afew Years Back… It Used to 14 and Now it’s 16 Years of Age… In the USA it Varies from State to State from 14-18 Years of Age… Basic Rule of Thumb if UnSure of Her Age… Make a Game of Joking About Drivers License Photos… That Way You can get the Birthday Right Off the ID…
Note: 14 and 15 Years of Age is With Parental Consent…
Just Posting for Info… Heck I’ll be 40 in January and Still have to Show ID Cause People Think I’m in My 20’s…
Because you are informing this thread on age of consent laws, can I assume that means that you’re planning on going after girls of barely legal age?
Joking… obviously. But you are correct in age of consent laws.
Just to answer your question, and Astrea is right in this respect. Some girls/women do not know that they have that look.
Two good friends of mine, ridiculously good looking with sick bodies, always have the “bitchy” look about them. One really is, but one is a frigging sweetheart. But regardless of how they really are, they both have asked me this question multiple times about why do people always ask them if they look mad, which is of course inferring the bitch look, cause I’ve noticed it myself.
As for your mone question, they both do respond well to higher -none sigs. They’re both over 18, but a few years difference in age, and fromw hat I could tell, they responded better to higher -none mixes like IJ and heavy MX301 doses. Side note: You can’t really get MX301 anymore, formula is there, but I’m just using it as an example. Both uses with them were around 30mcg of -none application.
I’ve also had uses with IJ that worked well with girls that looked absolutely innocent and adorable, and vice versa for all cases. The main denominator, for the majority of the cases are the types of guys they dated, and the personalities involved.
Long story short, it has nothing to do with the “perceived look” but rather the personality.
I agree that your logic is off, but as a mature adult I like to be able to discuss topics I disagree with. I’m sorry that at your level of maturity you would rather simply mute the other person. Perhaps it is something you are accustomed to in your interactions.
Your example is what lead me to question your post. Why bring age into it at all if it isn’t a contributing factor? Logically it would make more sense if you wrote that you see a lot of customers and some women have a bitchy attitude. When I questioned this, you retorted with the age of consent law in your location. Again, why bring age into it at all if it isn’t a contributing factor?
Sorry if I offended you, but I just felt it was important enough to question it since it was you who brought up age, hypothetically of course.
I have the same thing going for me. I look very youthful and healthy for my age. Girls from ages 15+ find themselves attracted to me. At my place of work, there is a girl who I happen to know is 15 who has a huge crush on me. Her friends (being gitty and such) told me.
No, this does not mean that I am now targetting 15 year olds in case someone wishes to interpret my statement liberally. It is simply me adding to the topic brought up.
). I don’t actually care where you live, but a child is a child. Your original post, that I took the liberty of quoting again, says you may not be intent on getting her, but it sure doesn’t say you are not going to go for it. Just your reply to me that its legal for you to consort with a 16 year old where you live says enough for me.