More than just friends

Hi, everyone

I have a fairly simple and short question. If you were to recommend a
mone(s) to help brake the “just friends” barrier, what would it/they be?

Thanks in advance,

Dave

PS. I currently have IS togo, TUTH togo, and AMMO togo, if it matters.

at your age, 1 spray ammo and 2 sprays shine.
No promises though, once you’re in friend territory it’s hard to get out mones or not.

Do your best to make your intentions known that you want to be more than friends. If worst comes to worst give her an ultimatium. But if you give her an ultimatium dont be supprised if you lose her friendship.So evaluate how important she is to you and how much you value her and if the risk is worth it.I have had this happen a couple times. If you can get out of the friends zone hammer it on the head. Just remember the more you wait the less chance you have of successfuly escaping the dreaded f zone. And If all else fails there are 6.6bilion people on this plant so there are probably plenty of hot chicks out there. Go hard,go strong and go for broke lay it all on the table your feelings and intentions etc. If you win more power to you if not remember the earth is 3/4th water so there are plenty of other fish in the sea. Hope that helped.

Radman would you recommend him using any 301 or 297??

Sheesh, if you’re so desperate as to resort to ultimatums, you might well show her your hard dick. Probably a lot more effective, especially if you catch her drunk.

The basic idea is to act like a man and maintain a low level of sexual tension, not act like her damn gay brother, girlfriend or father. She’ll get the message if there’s something there. If you’re really lucky, she might be thinking “this dude thinks I’m his little sister and all I wanna do is jump his freakin’ bones.”

If it was me, I’d wear SOE and Alpha 7 and take her out on the town.

I don’t think the “dreaded” friend zone is so bad. It’s sorta like dating married women. They still have needs and I’ve fucked many of my friends when it was clear they didn’t want a committed relationship due to career, grad school pressures, wild oats to sow, etc. The best of both world is friends with benefits albeit those things tend to go the shit when one of them wants more than what’s allowed in a friendship.

Wouldn’t TUTH be the obvious mone for that situation a little less conversation a little more action vibe!

Not exactly, TuTH could be good if buffered or for somebody like myself that’s a little older. It’s easy for TuTH to backfire. I’d wager that TuTH probaably has more first time sales than any other product because guys come in assuming a straight sexual mone will work like the AXE effect.

Put in PUA terms TuTH is for the seduction stage, if he’s in the friend zone he’s stuck in comfort. It’s very tough to proceed from comfort to seduction if you haven’t built attraction first. Basically before you consider trying to get her to change her opinion of you, you have to give her a reason to see you as more than one of the girls. Start getting into things that will provide you with attraction/value switches you can work into your conversations with her. Hit some DHV’s and wear a good attraction/value product or mix like Ammo and Shine.

If she see’s you as “just a friend” and you come out barrels blazing with no build up of attraction you’ll kill the friendship and accomplish nothing. She’ll say you guys should stay friends but rest assured you’ve made things awkward enough that your phone will ring less and less often over the next couple of weeks. Start gradually building attraction, with a stranger you can do this in a night, with a good friend it may take a couple of weeks since she has more preconceived notions about you that you have to shake off. You need to subtly paint yourself as a man of status and value and a sexual being gradually. Guys that are friendzoned may as well be girls or gay because women just don’t see you as a sexual being at that time. Build attraction first, save the TuTH for the big moment later on.

Fantastic advice as always, Radman.