LOL 
Sorry but i must post this.
tmoz why not?
im not tmoz, but the same reason that they dont give out their products for free or sell all items for a buck each 
Just ordered MX272 and MX273; should be here by Monday. w00t.
edit: update below
Great! So let us know what you think about those mix when you wake up 
girls like that enjoy giving blow jobs. They get stimulated orally, the girls that can’t stop running their mouth. Also girls that smoke, or if you notice them sticking a pencil to their mouth in class all the time or a bottle in the bar or restaurant.
Update #3:
Well there’s a lot to think about, and I guess learning more about the MX has really confused me.
First off, because of the whole lack-of-androsterone feeling I got the other day, I thought I’d bring along some Ammo with me just so I can compare. So I put on about 2.5 sprays of MX271, and was planning on replacing it with Ammo about 8 hours down the line once the 271 completely wore off.
That’s what the plan was supposed to be, but turned out quite differently.
Well first off, I noticed one big thing; this mix definitely does not have none in it. Looking back at my notes, even the first day I was guessing it was P83 (wasn’t a horsekick of sexuality that none’s known for, plus the agitation in others noted), but in my 2nd attempt I started leaning towards none due to the familiar self-effect usually from it. But the other day I asked SteveO what he thought, and he believed it was P83 being amped by P79.
Today, I can almost say for certain that it’s P83. There were no immediate fast hits, and I had to let my targets be exposed to my phero cloud before they’d start reacting (obvious point that holds true for all mixes, but with 'none it usually requires less exposure to elicit a reaction). It’s like when your right nostril is clogged when trying to sleep, so you lie on your left side so it starts clearing up. That’s how the reactions were today, MX271 subconsciously stirred something in people almost immediately, but for them to really react, they had to stay exposed and you had to initiate conversation and whatever else so that they would let their guard down. Once you did, they’d immediately brighten up regardless of what you were talking about. Like, really brighten up. And they didn’t just let their guard down, they JUMPED over their guard in a hurry to get to know you. That was the one consistent thing I saw from my ‘hits’ today. Especially mid-aged women.
Here’s the thing though; today, even though I had to be more of an initiator (as opposed to my initial day testing) to see hits, my confidence for some reason felt low, or that something was missing in all this*.* I really can’t attribute to what, maybe it’s just me or some other outside factors, but all I know is that I didn’t feel as outgoing as I do when wearing something rougher. So that’s when my plans changed; instead of waiting 8 hours for the Ammo, I decided to put one spray on about 3 hours into the 271 duration. It didn’t just make a difference, it brought out the whole playboy in me. I was more confident, and the IOI increased, but the genuine cheeriness and empathy displayed by others sort of faded off into the background. Could it be possible this MX27* series is meant to complement and be used with Ammo, rather than be it’s successor or commercialized version? (again no confirmation from Jasmin or SteveO on whether this really is the commercial pre-release ammo or not)
A lot like how the chem romance pack is fine on it’s own, but meant to be used with A314? shrug I wish I knew.
Anyways, any input from other 271 testers? I find it interesting, that during denec’s big mx272 hit, he had Ammo on as well. Coincidence? : P
I’m hoping SteveO can shed some light on this theory as well, since he’d know best.
I don’t support mixing MX’s with other products, because it sort of dilutes the effects that should be solely attributed to the MX at hand. Not to say it works any less effective; just not very helpful in regards to learning about the MX itself.
But screw it, today I ran off to class with 3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat along with 3 sprays of MX271. Honestly, it was bizarre more than anything else.
I say bizarre, because I didn’t get a ghosting effect, except from guys my age. Now typically, with 3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat (7.5 mcg none), to class is like an automatic OD. Ghosted from all people. But not today.. girls my age sort of acted more shy around me than anything else, but they were still all smiles. There was obviously more nervousness and conversations didn’t last long in our 10 minute breaks, but they didn’t avoid me like they would with a regular none OD. The only older women in my class were foreign doctors (one Russian, one Lebanese, and couple of Asian), yet they didn’t display any reaction around me. (nothing out of the ordinary at least). They were too focused on their own work.
Yet the guys I usually chill with during the one hour lunch break were a lot more introverted. They’d smile at jokes on the exterior, but something was off. You know that feeling when you get when you’re focusing on remembering a certain name or where you placed your keys last? That silent aggression build up that you’re trying to hold back? Yeah well that’s the vibe I sort of got from one guy in particular. And if I weren’t such good friends with the rest, they would’ve definitely been way too agitated to be around me at all.
Parts of it just don’t make sense to me though. P83 mixed with 'none is never a good idea, and I don’t understand why girls in general didn’t run away from me. Maybe they were agitated on the inside, but attributed it to something else and just tried to dis-affiliate my aura as compared with how it usually is on other days. Maybe the fact that I spent my lunch break only with guys gave me more time to see what was really going on?
I don’t know, I do know that it was better than a usual none OD, which is weird because if 271 does contain 'none instead of P83, than it would technically be even more than 7.5 mcg none; and in a school atmosphere nonetheless. Today just re-enforces the idea that there must be a crapload of molecules serving as buffers at work in this MX.
EDIT: Still waiting for my MX272 and MX273 to get here! Blah was in the custom labs for a while cause I was getting other stuff too, but should be here soon!
Tmoz, glad you tried that. I’ve been wondering if MX271 was -none based. It would make more sense in some ways. Think about this… maybe MX27x is all about the buffers not the masculine components. After all we know that -none pushes the button like nothing else, the problem is canceling out the negatives. So far I’ve only seen one report about males acting aggressively around MX271. Either it does not contain -none or it’s got one hellacious buffer. Because of the way it drains neurotransmitters I almost think it’s the hellacious buffer theory.
Anyway good test, I’ll have to try it, reps.
Today I did the exact opposite and bathed myself in 'nols, along with the 3 sprays of MX271. It sort of goes along with this buffer theory that we’re formulating.. because the people I know just felt a little too comfortable around me; it wasn’t anything deep, more-so a huge tendency to horse around and rag on each other. But when it came to strangers, I felt a little ghosted out.. especially by men. It was like I was giving off a queery vibe? I don’t know. I say queery because the only stranger that initiated conversation with me was homosexual Latino (from the looks of it, sorry to be presumptuous), who asked if he needed to take the Red Line or the Brown Line (trains), and his immediate 2nd question was if I wanted to see his crib? ..exit stage right.
Well regardless, I just feel more sure than ever that there’s no andosteRone in this what-so-ever. I’m starting to get a hunch that TAH was thrown in as a buffer confused look. My first day seemed perfect; I had A314 and ammo applied in the morning, and adding this later on seemed to bring out such awesome reactions.
shrug I just can’t seem to figure out what’s in this mix. Tiny TAA + slight TAH/P74 + P79 + subtle none/P83 +?+?+? Who knows, I’m probably way off but that’s my best shot in the dark at this point.. Renny, I know you stated you’d rather not try to jump and in guess anything yet, but you just gotta throw in your input ! =)
Maybe Jasmin decided to throw in one of the newer putatives from the p100+ range? I haven’t tested any of those out yet but I want to soon.
Edit: In a couple more days gonna start MX272 and MX273!
OK Tmoz, I do have a hunch but only because I just happened to have been goofing around with something…
My very intitial reactions to this mix was that it was a “super” androstenol. My guess is that MX271 is a play on these three, but with much more complex ratios. P74 may even be the predominant component IDK. I think it has a bit of -none. I don’t feel P79 in it. Actually that’s as far as my putative testing will take me. I wasted a togo of P83 as a newb and haven’t gotten back to it yet so I can’t really guess there. There is a LOT more going on here than my limited ability to register.
I do tend to agree that there is little or no androsterone…I think it comes into play in MX272…I’ve got to make some opportunities to give that one a serious go…it’s got s*** going on I didn’t know pheromones could do.
This series of MXs could easily rewrite what we think we know about this stuff. I really hope that guys don’t read a few of these early reports and conclude that this one is only good if you are after transylvanian transvestites with artificial elbows and that one only works on native born french canadiennes with blond unibrows. There is a lot going on with these mixes and Androtics deserves our best effort to test and report on them GOOD or BAD without prejudice from a handful of reports. OK renny, back away from the soapbox…:o
Anyway Tmoz…those are my guesses and they are just that.
Interesting!
It’s funny you say TAC, because it did cross my mind but I negated it because I didn’t feel any hilarity nor blind silent agreement from others, but now that you bring it to attention again, it actually does make a lot of sense.. It could very well explain why the sexuality is so well buffered.. I’ve noticed in the past that it sort of nullifies the none in any mix. However in this mix I thought the buffer was a little more smiley attachment’ish from all strangers, so thought the ‘P74+P79+slight TAA’ was at work. P74+TAC+nols just seems to make the mix too social, but in complex ratio’s and whatever else they put in here, it could very well be! You know what, tomorrow I’ll go out with that mix and try to compare with 271, and even add some 'none later on to see how the buffer theory works out with it. Reps for being a smart man renny =).
Hopefully SteveO adds his input on this MX once he gets back
mx271 sux
C’mon Aka, tell us what happened when you tried it!
I’ve been trying 271 on and off for a couple of weeks both by itself and with mutant A314 and I’ve got to say that I love it.
First off the self-effects. I’ve not really been self-affected by any of my products for some time but this stuff really does have a noticeable effect on me. I love the muted Game scent, it’s much better than the Game scent I last smelled in MX 131 (I think). As soon as I spray the stuff on it’s as though I’ve just shaved and thrown on my coolest threads, a roguish smile comes to my face and I’m ready to go.
Secondly, it doesn’t cause any difficulties with men as far as I can tell. Yesterday for example i wore it to a local pub and I struck up friendly conversation with 3 of the male customers (they initiated) about the tennis, work and general chit chat. I noticed that as I was talking both men and women a few feet away were looking over, listening to what I was saying and smiling or catching my eyes in acknowledgement.
It seems to be a very friendly mix. If it is an Ammo derivative then it is a lot smoother, less sexual and more charming. I felt it was almost P74-ish in that it gave a distinct air of approachable cool. With that friendliness and the almost roguish self effects it is a lovely little addition to my phero collection.
Usual application 3 sprays 2 behind ears one to throat, either alone or with 2 drops mutant A314 or 2 dabs fragrance oil from the unmentionable place.
Usual testing zone, the pub.