I got MX297 a few days ago and I’ve been experimenting with it (2 sprays). The first two times I used it, I didn’t go over 2.5 hours before washing it off, and I didn’t experience anything weird.
The night of the second time I used it; however, things got really weird. I had the weirdest sleep pattern ever, and I would wake up every hour or so from really vivid dreams in sleep paralysis not thinking straight. I did wash my application points really well before sleeping with some pore-cleansing anti-bacterial soap, but this stuff appears to be really sticky and requires rigorous rubbing. After waking up for the 3rd time that night feeling really anxious and confused; thoughts racing through my mind, I scrubbed it off with copious amounts of soap and I was able to fall back asleep normally right away. No sleep disturbances after that, but I woke up the next day in a really crappy mood.
Yesterday I used MX297 for the third time (at 2 sprays like every single time). After the 4th hour, I started experiencing strong crash effects. I felt like my blood pressure was a bit high, my heart rate was a bit higher than normal, had a slight headache and felt shitty and dizzy in general. I also noticed a scratchy heavy feeling in my throat. People around me would ask me why I’m pissed off and if there’s anything wrong. It seemed like the effects of MX297 were still working on them, but for me it was just too much. I wasn’t using anything else with it, and the crash effects almost immediately disappeared when I washed it off.
Has anyone else experienced similar effects with MX297? I really like how MX297 works for me in the first few hours. It makes my colleagues at work extremely friendly with me and want to help out ALL THE TIME. The crash is just too much, and I’m wondering if cutting down to one spray will do the trick.
MX297 has to be my favourite spray so far….. I don’t get a crash but more of a rush…. I used it in the day to good effect but it is more a night time mix for me ’ life of the party’ is what it is and does…. the only crash i get is the hangover from very long nights swimming in pheros and what they make me and others do…
not intense effects but with big combos i can be quite psyched and more talkative….
straight none or IG can make me irritable… i generally enjoy the self effects but they are always very subtle.
i remember my first spray of shine, i couldn’t stop smiling..
von_phero, what I wanted to say is that my crashes are often extreme because I also get huge self-effects when I give a specific phero a few days break and not use it on consecutive days OR up the dose.
Have you ever used TAC? Does TAC give you weird dreams? I ask because Himeros just made a report that he got funky dreams from TAC, and the only other time I’ve heard of that happening was with you and MX297. So that made me think there might be TAC in MX297.
Holy shit! Yes. This is a report (first post on the page) I made about the weird nightmares I got from TAC. At 15 mcg. I’m thinking there’s a lot more TAC than 15 mcg in 2 sprays MX29, because it did feel like what I had with TAC only more intense.
Yes I’ve been having weird dreams with TAC. I doesn’t happen all the time, but there’s definitely a correlation for me. I specifically paid attention to it after reading some reports on the forum that linked TAC to vivid dreams.
I was a MX297 junkie a year ago. Don’t remember having weird dreams from it. It’s a night time product for me, so I went clubbing with it quite a lot, and usually just crashed in my bed without a scrub.
More in general I really doubt there is any TAC in MX297! TAC is highly sedating/relaxing to me, MX297 is super energizing. That said yes I have crashed with MX297, but that’s more like an IShine crash. Feeling drained and cranky… needing to take a nap and eat some quality food.
Random thought, since you guys have been saying that you’ve been having crazy dreams with TAC or mx297. The past 2 nights in a row, I’ve been using melatonin to help with sleep. I usually get really vivid dreams when I use it, but the past 2 nights I’ve been having cinema-quality dreams! Maybe because I went for a long time without using it. But the first night, I lived out a new Tarantino film in my dream! Like, from start to finish! Not only was I watching it, but I was a part of it! It was like a cross between Django Unchained and Inglorious Basterds. It was pretty awesome.
And last night, it was a horror film about hauntings. I don’t like horror, so it wasn’t exactly fun for me.
So here’s my thought: I wonder what it would be like to use TAC or MX297 with melatonin. Anybody feel like trying it?
I use melatonin and binaural beats (With relaxing affirmations!) to help with my sleep. And I am a pretty heavy MX297 addict. I am not about to back up this theory (as in I might be incorrect) but I may have noticed something similar a few nights ago. I had one of the more vivid dreams I have had in a while. Involving a rather nice S2000 and a supermoto and some very fun riding around a much too busy town.
No melatonin last night, but lots of drinking and weird feels about 5 hours after a reup spray of MX297. No dreams remembered come morning. I want to try this out a little more intentionally and let you know what’s up.
I noticed that each energy center has a different reaction to each spray. After trying different areas I found a more compatible spot for each spray. Mx297 does best on my chest but TUTH does not ( headache ) . No headache from TUTH if I spray it on my shoulders and back of neck. Sounds like you have a strong catalyst energy about you, and just need to find the most agreeable center to spray.
