MX297 - Initial thoughts and unwanted hits

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Thought I’d make my first report on MX297 since it seems to be pretty blatant compared to the ammo mixes I have been using.

My background: Asian, 31, 5’11". I workout 4 times a week and I try not to leave the house without putting some thought into what I’m wearing. I’d like to think I’m not unfortunate looking haha. I’m a nice guy but I think I’m naturally intimidating to some people. I have no problem talking to people once that initial barrier is broken, but people hardly every approach me out of the blue. I’m a little bit of an introvert but I do work with people all day so I’ve become pretty good at reading people and observing.

MX 297 standalone - 1 and 2 sprays
Setting: Mall and Gym

When I first got my shipment of goodies a couple days ago I found one of my 2 MX297 togos a third empty and the package smelling like Akuto. Not wanting to let anything go to waste I took the slightly damp bubble wrap and rubbed it on my wrists for a not so scientific test drive. First off, Akuto smells really STRONG. I can see why it was offered in another scent package. I’ve since gotten used to it and gotten compliments from it, but I didn’t really like it originally. Second, I got a pretty big rush from whatever is in this stuff. I consider it almost like an adrenaline rush, more than the caffeine type of rush from IS. It’s hard to place the sensation really because it was like getting pumped without the tension.

I also should note that alpha-nol makes me straight up dopey in large doses and I get that sensation when I first put on MX297. Anyway, I went off to the gym not expecting a whole lot. I usually keep to myself at the gym, but I noticed quite a few self effects immediately. I noticed my time between sets came down quite a bit and I was a lot more confident in my lifts. I’ve hit a point in my training where my success on certain lifts is totally mental. I missed a lift on incline bench a couple weeks ago due to a last minute slip in concentration, and this time I rocked it with an added 10 lbs. This trend followed for pretty much my entire session and left me wondering if people use this kind of stuff in the olympics.

As for effects on others, I noticed I wasn’t getting as many “eyeballers” trying to stare me down between sets. I remember at one point some guy started to walk up to me as if he was going to use a machine nearby, then got within 3 feet and took a 180 and decided to leave the gym completely. I thought that was unusual.

Since then I’ve tried MX297 at one or two sprays by itself while shopping and going out with my friend. I’ve noticed that this stuff seems to affect my senses somewhat, and only sometimes and usually after initial application. I’m kind of an audiophile and I wouldn’t say it makes music sound better, but there’s definitely a change in perception. Maybe more tactile? I can’t put my finger on it. I’ve noticed my vision does seem a little sharper too. I kind of relate this stuff to being on a mild form of acid or ecstacy (uh or so I’m told). I say that because it seems to amplify whatever state I’m in. If I’m happy, I’m really happy. If I start to get irritated I start to get REALLY irritated. I noticed this in my interactions with my best friend. We know each other really well so I can tell when something is different. I’ve noticed with MX297 by itself, I start to get really short with him when he does dumb shit. All the same, when he’s being funny or when other people tell jokes, everything is hilarious. The edge that I get is definitely undeniable and pretty consistent so I’m not sure if I’m going to continue wearing this mix as a standalone.

Christmas shopping seemed extra productive with mx297. Most notably I went to Home Depot and where an older late 30’s maybe even older blonde helped me pick out a bunch of curtains and stuff. She seemed extra helpful and was standing really close to me after talking for only a couple minutes. When I thanked her for her help and started to walk away I could definitely sense an awkward “you’re leaving already?” kind of vibe.

All of the above is just extraneous thoughts imo. I found the most blatant results when mixed with ammo and IH in a bar setting.

Dosage: 2x mx297 base of neck, 2x ammo 1x sides of neck, 2x IH to go on wrists

Setting: bar

I’ve played around with ammo quite a bit and think it seems to suit my personality well, so I figured I’d try this mix out first. Self effects seem to be more mellow than with mx297 by itself. Maybe I’m getting used to it I don’t know but I didn’t have any of the edginess mentioned above. Still felt confident, and I did have the weird auditory and visual alterations as before.

I go to this bar every week to watch my friend play music so I know pretty much all the staff and the regulars there. I got a table by myself and started to watch the show. I didn’t really notice anything until a friend of a friend recognized me and called me over to go sit with him. At first he knew I was someone familiar but had me confused with someone else. This happens to me all the time in bars, some guy will be your best friend and then not remember jack shit the next day. Anyway, before you know it he buys me a beer and tells me his life story. He goes on to tell me about his childhood, how many elementary schools he’s been to, his friends in california, how he used to play music and blow all his money on drinks, and so on and so forth. I’ve always felt that people tend to confide in me even without IH, but strangers are usually a little standoffish with me so I did find all of this slightly out of the ordinary. Turns out this guy is my old roommates new boss, and he even told me that he was there to do recon of sorts and get information from her about his new hires. Something I don’t think he would’ve normally let slip.

While we’re sitting there my friend and his new gf come in. She’s probably mid twenties, 5’8" striking blonde with blue eyes and just a total hottie all around. She ends up sitting with us while her bf goes off to socialize. At first she was all quiet and seemingly avoiding eye contact with me. After my old roommate introduced us, she totally lit up and started making pretty intense eye contact while smiling at me every time I’d look in her direction. She also started playing with her hair a lot. It was to the point where it was making me uncomfortable because she’s my friend’s girl and all. There were maybe 4 or 5 of us at the table at one point and she seemed to be particularly interested in everything I had to say. At one point the conversation steered towards her story about punching some guy in the face for touching her ass, and it was a topic she wouldn’t let go of until it got noticeably awkward for everyone there. Alcohol, pheromones, whatever, I had to get up and leave.

When i got back, a girl I had met on Halloween was there. She’s 24, mixed race, not my type at all. She too, was being a little standoffish at first, then lit up the second I said something random to her. This girl was clearly into me on Halloween and I’m not feeling a thing towards her so i’m just being friendly making small talk. Within a couple minutes her chair is pulled up next to mine and she’s touching me and playing with my hair. As the night goes on she starts sitting in my lap and telling me over and over again that I “smell soooo good.” She kept dropping hints saying she had to catch the bus home, as if to bait me into giving her a ride. She even went so far as to leave, to “catch the bus” only to come back 10 minutes later saying she missed it.

To make a long story short, at the end of the night we were all outside and she started getting super aggressive with me following me around, invading my space, and pushing me up against the wall and shit. I was actually starting to get pretty annoyed and probably would’ve told her to fuck off if she wasn’t friends with my friends. She was making such a scene with her constant “are you scared of me? don’t be scared” comments. THEN OUT OF THE BLUE SHE SLAPS ME IN THE FACE HARD. Mind you I haven’t been slapped since I was 16, and I was fucking pissed. I’m not really sure how I kept my composure but I told her that was totally FUCKED UP and started to ignore her. Then she STILL kept following me around saying, “i’m sorry! are you mad? don’t be mad!” WTF!! This went on for a while until I finally got fed up and said goodbye to everyone and bounced.

My final thoughts for the night left me thinking maybe I don’t want to be universally appealing. Without sounding like a total db I seem to have no problem getting the attention of all kinds of women all of a sudden.. but I think I might steer towards an a314 kind of mix later because I don’t want to deal with immature girls like that. I want a REAL woman and if there’s some kind of mix that’ll weed out the brats I’m all for it. I’m just glad jenna wasn’t there tonight. That’s a whole nother story for later. :wink:

Good luck chuck
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Wonderfully solid report, I enjoyed it thoroughly!

I’ve just got MX297 recently, haven’t really tried it yet, but I’m REALLY looking forward to it. I’ll have to keep a lookout for crazy girls, though, i guess. :slight_smile:

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GREAT report zest!
You’ve made an interesting conclusion too. MX297 seems to lure “not the best” girls out there sometimes and makes them aggressive and pleading (to the point of annoyance). I know EXACTLY what you experienced.

I say you should of gave a ride to this girl still :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

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your signature should read:

"Mx297 got me a hard slap from a cute mixed race girl " :smiley:

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Can you tag people in threads? lol. Steve was mentioning how he h8’s mx297 for sending out “beta-male” signals which can then infiltrate girls’ bitch shields and create attraction. Does anyone else feel this way?? I’m sure she wouldn’t have slapped you if you wer wearing A314. I still love Mx297 but I might stop using it if it sends out the wrong signals. I only use it to get sex and haven’t thought about HOW it gets me there until I read steve’s post. Once i get more A314 I’ll wear it with mx297.

nywhoo. that girl is WHACCKKK!!! Shoulda punched her like snooki or somethin

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Yeah she’s whack. I cant stand immature girls. I’m kind of on the fence with mx297 right now. I get pretty EMO every time I have it on. I tried adding 1 spray a314b the next night and got semi ghosted. I’m thinking it had a lot to do with the fact that I got super serious and anti social after the first hour or two. I had a to go of shine in case of emergencies and that didn’t really help at all. Could’ve been an off night, but I doubt it. It almost feels to me like buffers wore off and I OD’d hard on erone and whatever makes you a beta boy.

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I’ve tested a couple more mixes since making this report with varying results.

2x297 + 3x ammo
I think 3x ammo is a borderline OD for me. Not so much in what it does to other people, but it makes me incredibly tense and nervous for the first hour or so. Went to a house party where the crowd was maybe mid 20’s. Got quite a bit of looks from the girls there, but a lot of it had to do with social proof. My best friend is easily the most popular guy in that scene, and we spent most of our time drinking with the hottest girl in the room.

The most notable thing about that night was spending time with a beautiful model friend I’ve known for years but haven’t ever really hung out with. It felt like we bonded on a pretty deep level for the first time in years, and she confided in me quite a bit. It was like we were best friends and never knew it. It was incredibly out of the ordinary for me, especially being that she gave me her number without me even asking. She IS a friend but I did sense attraction there, especially when we were alone in my car. I feel like I’d have to be willing to lose her to have her, and that’s not really what I’m looking for right now.

I think I’m naturally intimidating even though I’m not exactly huge or uninviting, but I did get a sense of intimidation from some people, mainly guys and the younger crowd.

2x297 + 1x ammo
I like this mix better than above. I can’t really place why. It feels more balanced. I feel like when you start pumping up ammo it starts to take away the finer points of mx297. The 297 gets less social, and I don’t think I gain a whole lot more attraction/sexuality with 3 vs 2 or 1 sprays of ammo. I used this while hanging with the ONLY girl who has ever completely friendzoned me. We always talk quite a bit but the conversations seem to have way more substance when I have 297 on. She also talked about sex quite a bit which is slightly out of the ordinary. The most notable thing is she touched, hugged, and grabbed my arm and held me waaaaaaay more often than she ever has.

I wore an ammo mix sans 297 last night and didn’t get nearly as much contact so I know there’s something in 297 that causes that.

I think I may switch it around and try 2x ammo and 1x 297 next.

2x297 + 2xammo +2xIH togo
I tried this a couple times and I like the vibe of this mix. I feel really chill and carefree. Every time I’ve been out with this mix there’s always a lot of laughing, talking and good times. This is what I was wearing when I got mauled and bitch slapped, so I think attraction is pretty heavy with this too.

IH seems to add something I can’t quite place. People are already pretty truthful with just 297 but for me, IH seems to take a little bit of an edge off of the self effects. I don’t feel as sharp and focused as I do with just 297 or just ammo. I have to play with this one further.

edit: forgot about this one
2x297 + 2xammo + 2xIH + 1x a314b spray
I tried this the night after I got slapped hoping to scare off any little girls and it did work pretty awesome for that. I got pretty much ghosted for the most part. I think people might’ve talked to me if I had put the effort in, but it was more effort than I wanted to exert because I was so tied up in my own head. I’ve noticed this a handful of times with 297. My internal dialogue gets REALLY LOUD and it seems completely random. I felt super serious and anti social after the first hour or two. I did get to talk to the ONLY girl I’ve been interested in and she did drop some very subtle IOIs on me while talking about how she usually needs a lot of personal space, while coming up really close to me and saying “well i guess it depends on the person..” But she’s a special case. We’ve been doing this dance for weeks now where she’ll be friendly one week, and act disinterested the next, and my friends will tell me she’s checking me out while I’m not looking and blah blah blah. Either way, I sense she was getting proximity OD or something because she’d come up to me and talk for 10 seconds at a time and then run away again and act busy. Like she’d sit there and sift through the checks (she works at the bar I go to every week) repeatedly, even though I could clearly see there were like only 3 of them there to go through. I may have been too tied up trying to think of how to deal with her than focusing on hits. Regardless I felt way more serious than i wanted to be. Adding IS in the bathroom did not help a bit. I have NO idea how people can wear so many sprays of everything. My threshold seems to be pretty low because I get some serious self effects from almost every product.

conclusions so far
The more I test 297 the more I think the additions to it should be kept minimal. Ammo seems to add something, but also take away at the same time. The self effects seem to be dying down for me, probably due to constant exposure over the last week or two. I always feel confident with it on, but it’s not like a a314 confidence. A314b feels to me more like, I’m confident because I’m just that good. 297 feels less.. cocky. It is extremely social in that every time I’ve had it on people have told me all kinds of things. It really feels quite a bit deeper and trusting than IO to me, even without the IH added in.

I wanted to note, I don’t really get a heavy respect or VIP vibe that everyone talks about in their posts. People ARE friendlier to me, but I get way more respect and that “who’s this guy!?” vibe from wearing ammo with IS. I’m tempted to say that when I’ve had 297 on my close friends seem to shit test me a little bit. Maybe it’s because it IS sending out a dominant vibe? I don’t know, either way the result is I don’t feel like I get the respect I deserve sometimes with just 297 by itself. The fact that I got slapped in the face for the second time in my entire life while wearing 297 makes me wonder too.

I think I’ll be using 297 for those times when I want to really connect with someone. I’m pretty sure I’m a lot better at attention/attraction than I am with comfort, and that’s where this mix really shines. I’ve since been playing with a314 spray though, and I’m liking the way it pairs with ammo for the bar scene. I just wish I could get the a314 + ammo + IS vibe with the 297 closeness. I’d buy a gallon of that.

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Wow, what a crazy girl, maybe the mones made her all aggresive when she wasn’t getting a sexual response from you, but still, the slap.. wow. Gotta be careful man.

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Thumbs Up.

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Zest,

Nice observations about ammo amounts.

Do you mean ghosted as in people don’t see you because you’re invisible?

Or is it more because they are intimidated or unsure about talking to you because of high status?

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This type of stuff happens to me also. I find that if I’m wearing my mones and I don’t show interest in a woman who has being drinking and really wants me she either will start to cry, get bitchy, or try to use physical force on me.

I had this one drunk Cuban lady say to me “Look at ME! I’m Hot! So why are you ignoring me? Are you a racist or a faggot?” She made a huge scene. My friend comes over to diffuse the situation and she says “So is this your lover? Faggot!” I mean it was loud to. Everyone heard it. Major shit testing. She was a 6 out of 10 at best. Bitch!

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haaahahahahahahahaaaaaa

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Oh no they saw me alright but there were no meaningful interactions and I felt like there was an invisible bubble around me. Part of it was it was hard to control my frame from becoming too serious after a certain point. I had a similar experience last night with 3x297 + 2 ammo. I wanted to see if going heavy on the 297 while keeping 2 ammo, which is my sweet spot, would add anything. I went to a bar that was super slow, had some strong IOIs from an asian girl who was maybe 10 feet away. Made me wonder about the distance mones travel. At any rate, when we left that bar and went to another several hours later I felt like I was getting less attention than I would without mones. I went outside and sprayed 3x IS and 2 shots of p83 and came back inside. Within 10 mins there were at least 3 different girls hovering around me dancing. There was a wide open dance floor and there really wasn’t any reason for them to be all up in my space. These same girls were acting as if they didn’t see me when I first got there. It was a little much to be coincidental. This seems to be a familiar trend when wearing 3 sprays of 297. It’s like something wears off and I get stuck with a major intimidation factor.

Again, I have to repeat I don’t feel RESPECT when I have this mix on. I DO feel a cool, relaxed confidence and sociability but I think that comes at a price. I should also mention I had what I would consider nervous “butterflies” for almost an hour after putting all of this on. I don’t know how else to describe it, but I’m not sure I like that feeling when going out to meet people I don’t know. I keep going back and forth with 297. I’m going to go against the grain and say that to me, 297 seems to work best with people I already know somewhat.

I think I’m going back to testing ammo+a314b+whatever next. I think that suits my personality better and the self effects are just way more desirable to me.

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“I try not to leave the house without putting some thought into what I’m wearing”

Bravo my friend…not enough gentlemen nowadays do this but I’m glad to see that some do.

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It’s my 1st day if mx297 testing & I totally agree - I do feel beta & even without mones I come across more alpha. That’s why people can’t get a handle on me today & I feel SO out of sorts!

Is that nol? And would I be crazy to add A314 with 297 tomorrow?

See my 1st day mx297 report here:

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IMO, yes. Personally I find these two do not go well together and the result is a confusing and wasteful mix that falls flat on its face with people who would otherwise respond very well to one or the other.

IO and MX297 (and its derivatives) ate the two pheros I would strenuously avoid using around A314, although I have great results with them in other ways.

However, I have noticed that some folk report good results with a high dose of one steered by a small dose of the other, so you might want to go that way instead?

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Mobo - thanks for the advice as I was still thinking which way to take this (& not piss off everyone in the office & myself :wink:

Will keep you posted.

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It won’t piss anyone off IME - Just that it sends a confusing and unproductive signal that people can’t get a handle-on/take one way or the other. Nondescript - the worst of all phero worlds.