Trying solo products first and learning to master each of them is always preferable. Nice reporting, my friend. Keep writing.
Wow that last mix was very unusual and I like that you reported on it. I say this because MX297 and TAC are more laid back and can be a goofy silly type of vibe where the A314 is a more serious one. I would love to hear more thoughts on this combo and if you think they clashed at all any of them in that mix.
Also I am curious on your thoughts on TUTH/TAC verse Ammo/TAC.
I ask because for me a lot I get far better and more hits with the Ammo/TAC and maybe it is just my chemistry.
I’ll test that combo a bit more then! as for tac/tuth vs tac/ammo, So far I’ve had more pronounced hits on tac/tuth.
The day isn’t over yet, for me, but a tiny update about today. I’m wearing tac/a314 1.32a at the moment and one of our ex-boardmembers at the student association just had trouble keeping her eyes off of me, stealing glances, while being hangover and cuddling a large pillow hahahha. she’d look,l i’d look back and after about 5 seconds she’d shake her head and look at something else. then a few minutes later the same happened again haha. pretty funny, i’ve never seen her do that before xD at all… (Oh and she’s got a bf.) age: 23yo
as to why that weird mix worked.. idk.. but for me specifically, a297 is not that laidback, it sorta works on my nerves, making me mo re susceptible for anxiety. however, with the tac to counter that effect it worked for me haha. will report later again, gotta go right now haha
Ok, so for poling in the end I just used tac + tuth on top of what I still had on me from earlier in the day, a higher dose than last time (both 2 sprays) And everyone (including me) were a lot more open, talking quite a bit more. No real hits as before though. had quite a bit more touch with the girl whom i shared a pole with though, but on the other hand, it was a lot harder to hold a conversation with her this time haha. no DIHL looks or gazes following me around this time though. But the girl with the bf that got closer to me and stuff, she did sorta challenge me in class today to a sort of poling battle/contest haha no clue if that’s mone related though, but fun nonetheless hahaha. Pretty funny as everyone else stopped doing what they did and started watching us xD including the teacher hahhaha.
Also, earlier today with the tac/a314 on and that ex-boardmember, a current board member came up to me and she asked me for drinks on thursday (The girl that I’ve helped with the video editing, so she’s been a victim of the (mone)cloud for a few weeks now haha). I’m curious about that haha. also quite curious about what I should hit her with this time 
any suggestions?
Ok, so I’ve been thinking about how that mix might’ve worked for me: the tac relaxes me, the mx297 makes me a bit more spontaneous (and possibly fun haha) and the a314 would make me seem less youthful/more in control. and if the 297 lifts everyone elses spirits as well, all the better. I guess it may seem like the a314 would clash in the mix, but you could perhaps also consider it like a buffer, so that one would not appear too youthful?
as for tuth/tac vs ammo/tac
With tuth/tac last week i’ve had the more pronounced ‘visible’ hits at poleclass (some more disrobing than they usually do, visibly stiff nipples, and today a bit more kino) ammo S./tac gave me a lighter flirty type of hit But I shall have to test them both a bit more.
I’m also thinking, I’m not really that alpha-type of guy. Some might call me a bit effeminate even. (Especially since I do like the arts, crafts, dance, poling, Hell, I can even do make-up and hair on models. I don’t act effeminate, or at least I don’t think so, but I’m not that typical guy-guy if you know what I mean haha) So perhaps I’m lacking some natural none and tuth or a314 would help me a lot in that regard. I am going to try somewhat higher doses now and see what happens.
Hey thanks man for opening up and I really appreciate your testing and you might be spot on with your A314 mix I have not tried it and was looking for more insight on it so good work.
I still have to test MX297 to and I have it just have not got to it. Great work and what is interesting is how 1 person can pull 1 mix off and another can’t or the dose is majorly different.
haha yeah its pretty fun to see how things do differ for each person! and thank you too for all of your hard work on all those reports you do!! I still havent wofked through all of yours haha.
ok so, it’s thursday and got a drink coming up with the video-editing girl. I’ll probably be wearing tac + ammoS tonight. I will bring tuth along and use it if necessary. Not for a close, but depending on whether or not her reactions are favourable toward me.
After the drink I’m going poling again and will of course hit the class with the same concoction.
Also on a side note. On tuesdays I wore tac + a314 and went out to buy a new lens for my camera (before going to my association on campus) And there I was helped by the owner (Male, asian late 40s, early 50s) who was very helpful, as he always is i might add. Normally he’s also very careful, however it wasn’t until the day after that we noticed he’d made a mistake, giving me the wrong box for the lens (and the wrong accessories that go with it). So that was a bit odd in hindsight. Might’ve been the tac? Pretty curious haha.
OK, so in the end I went in with 1 spray of tac alone (By accident more than intentional really. I was spraying, got sidetracked and forgot to spray more until i was already there haha) Anyway, Had more bouts of anxiety than I’ve had in a while, this is probably due to the insufficient amount of tac (2-3 sprays seems optimal, haven’t tried 4 or more yet). Anyway, when I arrived she was waiting outside talking to a few guys from out association and as I got there, the guys simply just.. left.. Didn’t really say hi or hello or anything, they just left… pretty weird imho. anyway me and the girl talk a bit outside but as the weather was pretty hot we go back in and she’s still all chatty, more so than before. We get upstairs and she gets me a nice cold drink. but then has to leave for a bit and leaves me in the care of the secretary (Another girl with whom I’ve worked a lot last year) and she’s a lot chattier than usual as well, but she’s also been trying to make more eye contact. then girl 1 gets back and surprises me by giving me a big thanks for all the help i’d given and assures me that theres a present coming up, but that they didn’t get it in time and such haha. pretty fun really. There were a few other people present as well. got a kiss and a hug from girl 1 and the rest of the time we’ve been chatting with other people, or working a bit etc. however, she’s been giving me a whole lot of eyecontact, or searching around the room for me, so that was new haha. This is more of a vibe I’d have expected from mx297 rather than tac on it’s own.
Also, fun fact, she’d been saying she had to leave at 4pm, but in the end she stayed till about 5, when I left. After we left and went our seperate ways I sprayed 2 more sprays of tac to the chest/throat and 2 sprays of ammo S. and felt a lot less nervous and more comfortable. Then went on to poling class, chatted a whole bunch with a few new girls and it was fun. I think there was a bit more flirty fun, but it was also a bit less personal/deep/bonding/intense than with tuth though. it was all a lot more casual and social. So no DIHL, or their gazes following me, just a lot more fun talking.
But I’ll have to try it out a bit more and see what happens. also have to test tac on its own a bit more and in higher doses. Still think that the odd behaviour at the student association could be related to the thank you and the gift, but some of it is likely to be the mones.
Oh well, we shall see next week.
I’ll probably use 3 tac, 2 ammo S and perhaps 1 tuth for the poling class and see if it can steer the social flirtiness a little bit.
TAC can lead to goofiness at higher doses (for me, 20-40 mcg) and even a boozy feeling (for me, 100 mcg+). Wrong box, wrong lens? Yep, might be TAC 
. I save high doses when hanging out with friends or in bed. It might be thick for every day life, let alone work or heavy machinery operation, lol.
hahaha ok tnx for that input! haha I’ll be sure not to lay tac on thick if i don’t need it!
lol just had to do a very quick update. just got out of poledance class and had n actual ass grab from a girl that only 5 minutes earlier told me she had a boyfriend lol.
was wearing 4 sprays of tac (2.5) and 2 sprays of ammo S that were sprayed on like 4 hours earlier.
had met the girl like every week in class for two weeks now. Weve talked but never really flirted or anything. Not today either. as to how it happened. i was talking to a new girl and she walked past me and as she did it there was a full on assgrab, walked by, looked over her shoulder said hi and walked on. pretty cheeky hahaha. will pay more attention to her in the future and see what happens hahaha. anyway a more detailed post will be up soon, i just had to share this hahahaha.
Ok so a more detailed post of last tuesdays.
I’d put on 4 sprays of tac and 2 sprays of Ammo S. as described above. I went to my studyassociation office for a little while and sorta got ignored at first. (There were 2 girls there both working very hard.) about after 20mins - half an hour 1 of the two leaves and the other tries to work, but keeps glancing over and after a few minutes gives in and starts talking.. and keeps saying sorry that she didn’t talk before and that she doesn’t have much time and such and that I should come by more often and at moments when she has more time and all of that haha.. Anyway, I take my leave after a a 15 minutes, so she could work a bit. I have to say that the other girl never reacted to me, not before I used mones, nor after I started using them. But this girl, ever since I started using them, it doesn’t matter which, but she always seems affected one way or the other. Have had some serious eye contact, especially with tac+tuth. tac+ammo S seems more subtle I’ve noticed.
So after that I grabbed some dinner and went on to pole class. I’d wanted to respray, but I forgot in my haste. Anyway, Our teacher wasn’t present and there was me and 1 regular girl (assgrab girl) and 3 new girls who at first thought I was the teacher lol.
Anyway we start working out on our own and the more advanced of the new girls and the regular girl (Both native dutch, blonde and beautiful (ones a definite 8/9 (catwalk model type, 22, long, slender, toned with gorgeous face to boot, I just don’t give 10s, but she’s close to deserving one lol) and the other is anywhere between 7/9 depending on taste (18, shorter, more voluptuous in certain areas, but still toned and has a wonderful smile) ). The other two new girls are both internationals and seem to be more reserved (and to be honest, less appealing to me, but yeah.. It just wasn’t fair competition in the looks department.) The smaller of the 2 blondes was flirting a bit, giving some good eye contact and regularly readjusting her bra. (Could be that the bra wasn’t fitting properly? idk, from what I saw the bra was still sitting perfectly fine at those times (good, fairly new sports bra) ). the tall one asked me to help hold her a few times (She’d never done that before, but since she already knew me (And has seen me do more than a few power moves) It may have been nothing. She also did quite a few moves where either her ass or her ladybits were pointed towards me. Then she started talking about how she had to miss our next class, since she’d be going to her bf. The shorter girl called toward me to play some video of a championship-winning poler. (She’d taken my phone for that btw xD) to show me a move she wanted me to try. While we were standing there talking and her trying to look it up on my phone, the taller girl walked past and grabbed my ass, then walked on to put something away, looked at me over her shoulder and said hi and walked on to put her towel away. Then she came back, stood behind me (lightly) leaning in to me to also look at the phone screen and see the move we were looking at. Then we split apart and started trying that move and we all failed hahaha.
In between I did try to help the other two new girls as well at times, giving them both a few strengthening and balancing exercises to do so that they might be able to pole at the next class when there is a proper teacher present. But neither of them tried to grab my attention whatsoever and seemed a bit shy when I did help them. We stopped a bit earlier than we usually would with the actual lessons and the taller girl stayed behind a fair bit longer while I was getting dressed (Usually she’s one of the first to leave). And we chatted a bit more about one of the poling teachers. And after that I left and she still had to go get dressed and travel almost 2 hours by train. (While if she’d left when the others did, she’d have been able to get a train earlier and thus get home about half an hour earlier than she normally would!)
Anyway, I think it may have been a combination of factors that led up to all this.
- The mones helped loads, especially the TAC as it really helps me to open up and have no feelings of social anxiety which definitely would’ve triggered under the scrutiny of 2 very hot and awesome girls.
- The fact that I already knew the hottest girl in the room, that gave me more value in the eyes of the other girls, obviously, but it also gave her a certain feeling of entitlement over the other girls, it seems.
- The fact that there were 2 very hot girls present helped a lot as well, since I guess they sorta got competitive with my attention as the ‘prize’
- Me being the only guy in the room would make my value sky rocket as well it seems.
- Me not being gay, but still being respectful while being in a room with 2 hot girls in their underwear, while being half naked myself is probably a good thing as well.
And There were probably a lot of other factors in play as well that I can’t think of right now… If you think of any, let me know haha!
So for wednesday, I went out with my parents looking at a possible new home and I actually forgot to spray any mones!! But the salesman was mostly talking/explaining to me and giving me way more eye contact than he did my parents (especially my mother who did most of the talking) (Who would be the ones buying the house for themselves, and they are the ones with the cash!) I have never seen such an effect without a314 present, so it did surprise me a bit.
After that I went out to a restaurant to pickup some food and the owner came out, had a chat with me and even opened the door for me when I left. He’d never done that in the past and he did not remember me (I have been there about once or twice a year, but was never helped by the owner as he has quite a bit of personnel that also switches through quite a bit.) It really felt as if I were wearing a314, but I wasn’t, so that was a bit of a surprise. I’m wondering if there was any a314 in the collar of the jacket I was wearing from last time (Which would be almost 2 weeks ago!) But seeing how long that’d been, it’s not likely…
And thursday and today I’ve been staying in, so haven’t really used any mones. I did 1 spray of tac when I went out to the store today for groceries, I knew the cashier (She’s in my dance association), I had never hit her with mones before and she was a lot chattier than usual, starting to chat while she was still helping other clients (I was still 3rd in line at that point). but other than that haven’t really interacted with anyone. So, that’s about all for this week haha.
right ok, last weeks report:
tuesdays: 4x tac, 2x mx353. Quite a curious reaction on guys mostly. They were both agressive and submissive. Was helped at the local snackbar and at the counter the guy (early twenties, white) was pretty curt, but then when my food was ready he went and delivered it at my table with some extra stuff and a smallish bow O.o, while usually he’s very friendly and chatty and makes me pick up my food at the counter when it’s ready, just like everyone else…
Other guys I saw were mostly curt in their answers/reactions, but then I also didn’t have prolonged contact, so I wouldn’t know if there’d be another reaction like when the other guy brought me my food.
Then at poling class, nothing much happened really, nothing out of the ordinary, no hits that I noticed anyway.
Thursday a girl cancelled on me and I went to a drink with the association instead, sprayed 4x tac, 2x mx 297 and 2x tuth (all to neck/wrists basically) Got to talk with 1 guy and 2 new girls, eventually the guy walked away as he wasn’t getting any attention from the two girls. one of which was leaning waaayy back in her chair (While making sure our legs touched) and the other girl was very engaged in conversation leaning forward and making sure I had to concentrate to keep eye contact… (And failing occasionally, but can you blame me? xD) Then they had to leave for an exam/test and while they were leaving, another girl came in and introduced 2 other girls to me to talk to… xD Not as gorgeous as the two before that (both solid 8’s), but cute nonetheless (7s at the least). Talked abunch, no blatant hits, other than having good eye contact and a good conversation. And then I had to leave…
all 4 girls were Caucasian and the first 2 were 1 brunette (relaxed) and 1 blonde (engaged) and the second group were both brunettes.
Ok let’s see, last week I haven’t gone out much and basically went mones free, so not that much to report. This week however:
Tuesdays I wore 3x TAC and 2x mx297. at first I went to the student association offices and had some interactions, I was very tired and a bit disinterested I guess and everyone was just doing their own thing. There was this girl as well with whon I’ve had very good interactions in the past (Some kino, some DIHL and a lot of following me with her gaze) But yesterday that all just wasn’t there somehow. Today I saw her again at a symposium (While wearing 3x tac, 2x ammo S. and 2x a314-1.32a) and right of the bat there was a lot of kino, no real DIHL or following me with her gaze, but she did keep coming back to talk to me and when we sat next to one another during the event, over 50% of the time she’d really turned into me (Sitting comfortably with knees drawn up, like you’d sit on a couch) with her whole body turned towards me and leaning into me as much as possible in these seats (kinda like (movie) theater seats), almost like, if we were on a couch, she’d have put her head on my shoulder and let me hold her. Also our legs were touching quite a bit and a bit more kino. I also noticed a few of the guys from my association look at us (or mainly her) a couple of times, so the rumour mill might start hahaha. oh well..
About tuesdays I did go to poleclass in the evening and the girl I share the pole with wore some other top than usual and was visibly happy to see me undress (Or well take of a sweater and a shirt really), we’ve had a bit more physical contact than usually during the training (Mainly just holding/preventing falling) and she stayed and waited for me to get ready at the end so we could walk out together, which we usually don’t.
oh well, so far the reports haha.
Ok let’s see, last week I haven’t gone out much and basically went mones free, so not that much to report. This week however:
Tuesdays I wore 3x TAC and 2x mx297. at first I went to the student association offices and had some interactions, I was very tired and a bit disinterested I guess and everyone was just doing their own thing. There was this girl as well with whon I’ve had very good interactions in the past (Some kino, some DIHL and a lot of following me with her gaze) But yesterday that all just wasn’t there somehow. Today I saw her again at a symposium (While wearing 3x tac, 2x ammo S. and 2x a314-1.32a) and right of the bat there was a lot of kino, no real DIHL or following me with her gaze, but she did keep coming back to talk to me and when we sat next to one another during the event, over 50% of the time she’d really turned into me (Sitting comfortably with knees drawn up, like you’d sit on a couch) with her whole body turned towards me and leaning into me as much as possible in these seats (kinda like (movie) theater seats), almost like, if we were on a couch, she’d have put her head on my shoulder and let me hold her. Also our legs were touching quite a bit and a bit more kino. I also noticed a few of the guys from my association look at us (or mainly her) a couple of times, so the rumour mill might start hahaha. oh well..
About tuesdays I did go to poleclass in the evening and the girl I share the pole with wore some other top than usual and was visibly happy to see me undress (Or well take of a sweater and a shirt really), we’ve had a bit more physical contact than usually during the training (Mainly just holding/preventing falling) and she stayed and waited for me to get ready at the end so we could walk out together, which we usually don’t.
oh well, hahhaa
Hey nice log!
I guess I’m a little late to the party. Nice reporting skills, the details really help!
I see you’ve been playing with TAC and TUTH, oh how I love these two.
I think if you can find your sweet spot dosages for these two you will have something killer.
Have you tried 2 sprays TUTH 1x + 2 sprays TAC (10mcg each)? This is my sweet spot and let me tell you I personally think this mix is incomplete without hedione. Luckily there are other hedione sources (ingredient in some colognes) that way you don’t have to order it. It’s still really cheap though.
Have you read the thread on hedione in the theory section?
Also I think you hit the nail on the head, TUTH/TAC is like a close/bonding/sexual/respect mix, but Ammo/TAC is more like a friendly/fun/flirty-attractive mix.
They’re both awesome, just depends on your intentions.
I personally found TUTH/TAC to be completely versatile for me, I am the epitome of the alpha male with this mix., but age, race, diet, lifestyle and genetics are factors.
But again I cannot stress it enough, hedione is the icing on this delicious cake i’m serving up.
Also I’ve grown quite fond of TAC. This one is the secret ingredient and I believe no mix should be without it. High dosages, you lose the mix and can make people too relaxed or sleepy. At just the right dosage you help people ‘ease’ into your mix and help them ‘accept’ it. Plus TAC relaxes your own mind, and who wants to be anxious in an event like that right? You want control in that situation.
Hey don’t want to write too much too fast but am enjoying your journal. Any questions just ask away!
Oh one more thing..
This may or may not help..
But I noticed when I post here I have issues with it not posting, so I hit the back button, then refresh. Then it works.
However, I do use safari on iPhone.
I agree all the way with Jdub and ironically have found my sweet spot to be exactly the same as his with TUTH and TAC. There is also something there to with health and diet as if I do not take certain vitamins I notice a difference in how my mixes work. I take a lot of stuff, but the real key is to generally just be happy and healthy and have found my mood to even effect how well my mixes work to. I think just eating the best you can and a complete muti vitamin all by itself does wonders.
TAC also helps with the A314 and is worth trying out to.
Tnx for the suggestions guys!! I’ll have to look up hedione then! I’ve been wondering also, how a mix of tac + tuth + ammo S. would work and if the ammo S. would work in a similar way as the hedione or not. I think I may try that combination tomorrow when I go poling again.
On vitamins and diet, I may dive in to that some more as well haha!