My first three experiments, need some help.

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Hi I’ve been using this stuff for maybe about 2 weeks and have gotten a chance to test it out 3 times, I’d like a little feedback about what happened though. I’d really appreciate it.

The first time i had 2x IShine and 2x reg. ammo and it worked amazing. lots and lots of physical contact even after having gotten into the beach. It resulted in some interesting events at night. However, I did get some agression from some white guy. No one ever really starts shit with me, cause I’m just a nice looking guy that’s pretty much the opposite of someone you’d have a problem with. So that was kind of weird.

The next two experiments occured today.

I had 2x ammo and 2x IShine again early on in the day with a friend who is usuaully very distant and very uncomfortable with physical contact.But today it was a lot better. I sprayed the ammo directly to my neck and the IShine on each wrist and rubbed down my neck. But today it was a lot better. I could really see the IShine affect her while i was driving. I knew what was happening, but i’d still prod at her and be like dude what’s up with you, you’re so hyper. hahha. I could notice a difference later on in terms of being comfortable around me physically.

The next event occured several hours later, at this point I’ve just recieved Turn Up The Heat, so i decided to give it a try. Well, I really should have sprayed the bottle until i broke it in. It gave me this weak little sputter and I didn’t know what to do with it. So i just sprayed one full one on my chest. Got dressed threw on my clothes and headed to a classical music concert. And another IShine to the wrist and rubbed it down the neck. It appeared like it did absolutely nothing the entire night. I didn’t get anything at all, except with the person i was with, but that could be just because it was her. I didn’t notice anything from anyone else the entire time. Can someone tell me what happened?

Well those are my first three experiences being the newbie that i am. Feel free to make suggestions. I feel that i kept my mixes pretty simple and light so I have no idea what might have happened.

thanks !

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Normal. Most reactions are subtle or unexpressed. You can’t expect to walk around crowds and have physical reactions from every passerby. Even if they noticed your phero cloud, their social filters kick in and prevent them from grabbing your ass, smiling or mumbling “damn he’s hot.” Mones are simply you but slightly enhanced. Your words and actions seem a little bigger and better but social rules and freewill are still perfectly intact.

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I had some time last nigh to test Turn Up The Heat on my wife…
2 sprays on the neck did the job…
i sprayed before we went to bed and just waited to see will she come to me… and well… NO she didn’t make a move :slight_smile: so i had to get closer first…

So far i have learned that you have to make the first move something to happen..
you cant expect just to sit somewhere with you mouth shut and wait for
someone to come and as Gegogi sad “to grab your ass”.

speaking off i had that time that my wife got crazy in the car with
only 4 drops of A314… maybe she was horny or something… don’t know lol..

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The agressiviness on someone towards you is probably because of -none in Ammo, maybe 2 sprays is too much for your age (or maybe not), try less, say 1 spray, maybe you get better female and male results or maybe you have to sacrifice a little male results by using more Ammo, try different ammounts of it and see the consecuences.

I have experimented bad male reactions from Ammo using 3 sprays and I am older than you, specially if they are alpha men in their own alpha zone (club security, some teachers, etc). Try your optimal dose and decide between women or men if you have to sacrifice. Maybe you can compensate bad reactions with IS but in my opinion it gives Ammo a little less sexual vibe.

Good luck, keep experimenting and tell us! :wink:

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I say you had some good hits. As for TUTH, you said you went to classical music concert? Perhaps it was the atmosphere since the setting will definately make people more reserved. There are time and places where you can use TUTH, e.g. Clubs or Bar during the night time.

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ahh yes, the concert was definetly full of old people anyways. i only chanced to pass by maybe a handful of people in my age group. For myself, i think 2 shots of ammo is best, one shot doesn’t seem too do much. I tested out one shot of IS and one shot of ammo, cause I didn’t want to use more in case of build up.

Oh, that’s one thing, how long does build up last? and do i need to decrease dosage if i use on consecutive days or anything like that?

Anyways continuing on my update, yeah the concert seemed kind of like a bust no big deal, i still got a lot of reactions from the girl i was with. Just not as much as the first time. I did have to do a little pushing this time around, unlike last time, but hah guess life isn’t that easy.

My fourth experiment came today, which was just one ammo and one IShine. Perhaps the dosage was too little, i only noticed a little bit of the IShine. This is a girl I’ve known for a couple of years and definetly put into the friend zone for sure, but doesn’t stop me from testing things out. hahha.

It seems that my subjects have all been girls I’ve known for a while, except for the one that i actually got really good results from. I’ve known her for 2 years, but on a very very casual level. We hardly talked until recently. I need to get a chance to try out my mixes in places with a lot of random people. I’m kind of just targeting right now to test.

I’ve read some posts about using tuth in the daytime, is that wise in your opinion? And would ammo + tuth be overkill for night time use? I can’t seem to pinpoint the effects of ammo, like i can easily tell when they’re affected by IShine, but with ammo I haven’t a clue.

thanks for the help guys, I’ll keep updating with more experiments and I’ll let you know how it goes. I’ve been really tempted to get some a314 too, but funds are low and I haven’t recieved by gift cert in the email, even though jas said she sent them out.

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ahh damnit, i just accidentally deleted my reply post. mother…

ANYWAYS, as I was saying. One shot of Ammo really doesn’t do much for me, so I guess i’ll stick with two as i got the best results from that. I tried using one today on my fourth experiment, didn’t seem like much. Today it was one ammo and one IS, in case of build up since I’ve been using on consecutive days.

The question is how does build up work? If i use on consecutive days should i decrease dosage, and how long would build up last? I decided to use a little bit less today just in case since I haven’t gotten a chance to read up on that just yet.

As for the classical music thing.. yeah I suppose thats normal most of the people there were a lot older than I was and there were only a few a handful in my age that i came into proximity with. I did however get pretty good reactions from the girl i was with, just not as good as the first time. I had to initiate a little more this time around, but she was totally happy about it. A decent experiment 3.

Also, I’ve been testing out on people that I’ve known for a while and have generally put stuck into the friend category already, but I wanted to see if it would make a difference.

So for experiment four, I just had one ammo straight to the neck and spread it around with my wrists, and then i sprayed one IS on my wrists rubbed them together and finished off on the neck. I could tell that the IS affected her a little in the beginning, but it was already four hours after application before she finally came into contact with the mones. Normally she’s pretty uncomfortable with me laying next to her in bed especially when it’s a small one. Except for one time when we had to sleep in the same bed on a retreat, but that was an exception. Today she seemed okay about it and that was about the only difference i noticed.

One question, I don’t know what the affects of ammo are. I mean i can easily pinpoint when someone is under the affect of IS, but what happens under ammo? that’s what im curious about. Also, would you guys suggest using tuth in the day time, i read a lot of reviews saying not to. What if it was like one on one in the day time? And then I’ve been looking into getting a314, but funds are low.. jas has said she sent out the gift cert, but i haven’t recieved it in my email yet.

that’s about all i have to update in my trials for today. I’ll keep you guys posted!

thanks for the help also, i really appreciate the feedback

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ahhh damnit, posting same story third time around. I guess i’ve been hitting the wrong button or something. I think i’ve actually been just replying to eslite119 on accident woops. hahha sorry eslite.

okay since i’m doing this for the third time I’m going to make this quick and less detailed. damnit!

Part 1: Questions

Okay so I’ll begin with questions. How long does build up last? Should I decrease dosage on consecutive days?

What are the noticeable affects of ammo, since i can easily recognize what happens when someone is affected by IS? Is it noticeable at all really?

Would you guys recommend using tuth during the day? i know a lot of people say not too, but what if it was like a one on one type deal?

Part two: reply to first three experiments

  • yeah so, i suppose that’s normal for the classical music thing, since everyone seemed to be older and only got to be within the vicinity of a handful of people my age. The only thing is, was this time i had to put in a little more initiative, but the results were still fine, just didn’t get as much as i did the first time.

Also, i seem to be testing on subjects i’ve been put into the friend category with already, but i wanted to see how it would change things if at all. The one I got really good results from was someone i knew for two years but on a very casual basis.

Part 3: experiment 4

Anyways for experiment 4, i had one ammo to the neck, spread around with my wrists. Then one is to the wrist, rubbed to wrists and then the neck. She only came in to contact with the mones 4 hours after application if that made a difference, but the effects seem mild. I noticed a little bit of the IS, but like i said earlier, don’t know what happens with ammo. One thing i did notice is that she was okay with me sleeping next to her in bed even though it was a small bed. usually she moves away or something of the sort. There was only once when we slept in a bed together for the night, but that was cause we were on a retreat of some sort.

I’ve been looking into a314, but funds are low, and i haven’t seemed to recieve my gift cert in the email yet. jas said she sent them out.. odd.

thanks for the feedback guys, i’ll keep you guys posted. Hopefully i’ll get to test the stuff out with randoms soon. No parties really since schools out, works starting, and going to the mall just seems like a waste. on top of that im not old enough to barhop. damnit! hahha