OK well I’m sure that got some peoples attention. The fact is these are probably the most common statement/questions posted by newbies. And in reading a lot of them I’m noticing common reasons for the problem and thus the dismissal of mones as snake oil.
Reason number 1…too much. Guys post “I tried 8 sprays of Heavy Ammo and got zilch, zip, nada”
Find and follow Steves guide for finding your sweet spot with each product one at a time. one spray, even two might be too little, five sprays way too much, but three or four sprays could be just right, you have to find the magic number for each product.
Reason number 2…too many, guys pherobomb and try a mix of everything but the kitchen sink and assume since they tried the entire line all at once that it means mones are useless. Thing is try throwing everything from your refrigerator into a pot along with equal portions of every spice in your spice rack or cupboard…how good do you think that’s gonna taste?
Actually cooking is a pretty good analogy. You want to look at your main consumer line products as entre’s and side dishes, going fairly heavy 2-3 doses with your main dish, then lighter 1-2 doses on all your side dishes. then maybe a putative or two for seasoning…that’s it and even then you don’t want to start trying combo’s until you tested the mainline products as stand alones.
And finally reason number 3…they haven’t clue one what the hell to be looking for. Blame Axe commercials, letters to Penthouse, Oceans 13, but a lot of guys buy these things expecting women to suddenly stop acting like women and start being as sexually aggressive a drunken frat boy. A314 in particular I’ve seen people post that they got no results after only a couple of days of use, which is sad since it’s my favorite product by far and yet manages to be the most powerful yet subtle at the same time. But guys that have little or no experience tend to have very unrealistic expectations, so much so that they can be getting great hits and not even know it. So to that end I’m going to post this handy dandy little list of possible hit types to look for.
Respect Hits: Most common with Rone products like A314, IG and Ammo.
Your opinion, watch for increases in how many people ask what you think about something and how often compared to when you weren’t wearing…also look for people that normally wouldn’t give two shits what you think to gradually begin asking.
Submissive postures, watch for people to keep arms length from you and avert their eyes when talking to you.
Attention, watch for them to MAINTAIN eye contact when you’re the one talking
You have the floor, make a note of how often people will burst in and interrupt you when you speak, then make a note of how often it happens or or decreased since wearing
Tooling/shit testing, this could go either way, you may experience a sudden decrease in how often people tease you, either playfully or even with malicious intent, however you could also experience a short term increase since people…women in particular test you to make sure you’re as alpha as you seem.
Voluntary compliance, watch for more people to offer help or assistance more often. At work I’m not a manager yet I have 5 girls that will ask at least once or twice a day “is there anything you’d like me to work on?” or “do you need me to help with any projects?”
Approval seeking, this is similar to valuing your opinion, but where your opinions value is more functionally related “What do you think we should do to increase our sales this quarter?” Approval seeking is more related to personal validation…this might sometimes come across as showing off or gloating, the fact is it means they hold you in high enough regard that telling a woman her dress looks nice or a guy that the new car he got makes them feel special, watch for attempts to fish these kinds of compliments from you.
Increased responsibility, Now I’m not sure if this is common for everyone but at the office I work at there’s the doctor, a lab technician and me…and then 20 women. A while back my stress level went up somewhat as I became the go to guy whenever there was a problem, and there seemed to be more problems than usual. I was resistant and would get angry then I realized it all started after I started using A314, after looking more closely at the situation, it seemed like with the strong A314 signal I was wearing, the women seemed to become unwilling to make their own decisions. They couldn’t or wouldn’t make a move without my approval or say so…and they seemed to resent me when I was resenting them not thinking for themselves. Now that I know what’s actually going on I’ve accepted this as part of the job that comes from being alpha (it really is more of a job than a treat most days) and the more I tell the girls (including the manager who is also female) what to do, the better their moods seem to be and the more morale in the office has picked up.
VIP Upgrades, here’s an example…went to a bar and grill a few of weeks into my A314 usage for dinner and to enjoy a couple of drinks while watching a game. There was a perfectly good table available but as the hostess walked us to the table she looked at the tv, then at me and called for the busboy to clean a different table, one dead center in front of the screen, then called over the girl that would be our server and introduced her to us.
Now to most of the more experienced phero and especially A314 users here that’s a pretty obvious and blatant respect hit but I have no doubt that some newbie would be so much on autopilot that he’d simply dismiss it as the hostess doing her job…I rarely if ever see them rush a table cleaning when another perfectly good table is available and waiting, that was a respect hit.
Social Hits most often seen with Nols like in Instant Openness and Instant Honesty, Also seen with TAA/Instant Shine
Frequency of communication, how many people initiate conversations with you and how often
How long do typical conversations with certain people usually last. you’ll probably find they last longer as people might grasp at straws just to keep the conversation going.
Out of character talking, look for people that might normally be a little on the quiet side to feel a bit more comfortable talking to you.
Intensity of conversation, what kind of information is volunteered or just brought up out of the blue? Are people telling you things about their families, they’re hopes and long term goals, maybe embarrassing things about their past? Moreso with IH than with others but it can still happen with IO since it still has some betanol in it
Overall mood, especially with IO and Shine, as both are known to have mood elevating effects. don’t expect people to jump on on the tables and start dancing but watch for people to smile bigger, and more often around you.
Also with instant shine, one of it’s main attributes at least from my own experiences is that it seems to direct your other products into the postive directions of their properties. IE the dominance of A314 becomes more of a charismatic leadership vibe than a domineering bully vibe, IO making people more talkative becomes people wanting to talk to you because you’re a cool likable guy. So after you get a sense of other mones and how they work try them again with a spray or two of shine and see how it enhances the effect.
Which brings us to the type of hits most new phero users actually start using mones for in the first place.
Attraction hits: Most common with None, products like Ammo, and Tuth but honestly attraction can come from almost any product especially Rone products that create a perception of high status and value.
This is the one where most guys are the most clueless, even before I started using mones I would see guys get great attraction signals or green lights from girls but because women are subtle and guys don’t register anything short of her smacking upside the head and holding up a sign that says “I want it and I want YOU to give it to me” . Thing is women are more subtle and it takes social intelligence and perception to spot and interpret signs of attraction.
Wear an attraction based product like Ammo, TuTH, MX301, or even rone based products like IG or A314 and look
Is she playing with her hair? Women do this all the time anyway but if she’s doing it and subconsciously pointing the tips of her hair at you it’s a possible sign (possible because the condition of hair can be an indicator of her health)
Exposing her arms. wrists, did she pull her sleeves up and lay her arms out in front of her across the table or bar?
Shoulders or tits, as in what’s pointing at you, if she’s facing you directly you have her attention and interest solid, if she’s turned slightly to the side she’s waiting for you to leave.
Is she leaning forward when you talk or leaning back, if she’s leaning forward then she perceives you and what you have to say as having value
Watch her pupils, this is the much sought after DIHL human eyes widen to take in more info about what we see, both eyelids and pupils, if she gets wide eyed and her pupils dilate it means you pretty much have her enthralled with you. Rare but it happens.
Smiles, clean white teeth not only convey that the person is enjoying themselves at the moment, but it’s displaying a sign of health and breeding fitness (youth since younger people would have more and healthier teeth than older ones in prehistoric past)
Laughing, if everything you say suddenly becomes the funniest stuff in the world this is a HUGE sign. I’ll actually throw a semi lame joke in to test the waters. If I get a light chuckle no big deal but if she’s cracking up over a joke that was so/so at best that means she’s very interested.
Kino, women do not initiate touch with men they don’t know. Sure a woman might give a platonic hug to a longtime guy friend, or shake a guys hand if he’s introduced by somebody she knows and she feels safe but that’s it. Don’t expect her to throw a pass at you like in some bad porno movie, but watch her to playfully punch you, or rest her hand on your arm to emphasize a point when she’s talking, if she leans in to hear you better while you’re talking and she rests her hand on your leg for support that also counts. Guys miss this because it seems innocent but women are very self conscious about giving men the wrong impression as it can cause problems later, so if she feels comfortable breaking into your personal space and touching you then that’s a hit. Some might initiate but more often then not YOU’ll have to initiate and let her reciprocate. If you have the right products and give them enough time to sink in and effect her then she more often than not will show signs of attraction.
This doesn’t mean you can fall back into whatever bad habits you had before might have kept you from the girl, one wrong sentance, fail a shit test or just fail to show enough balls to escalate the interaction and attraction can be gone and she’ll actually become frustrated at you for wasting her time and not being a go getter like she was hoping you’d be.
So for newbies, learn not only to look for and interpret the signs of valid hits, but also how to capitalize on them because the mones will only take you so far. If you spray Ammo and go to a club but are standing in a corner holding your drink and just people watching the mones didn’t fail, YOU did. And if a girl is showing signs of attraction but you aren’t escalating or trying to build on it and she gets bored and leaves, again, the mones worked fine, you just didn’t take advantage of the opportunity they gave you.