My Phero Findings! So FL Vs. No Cal

Im Not really sure how to report this, so I am just going to lay it out there.

I moved here to Nor Cal about 3 months ago from Ft. Lauderdale, FL. The differences I have seen while wearing pheros is too much not to talk about.

So FL’s greatest hits were:

MX292-3x
MX292/MX272 3x/2x (Trophy Winner)
301-3x
302-3x
ICM Oil- 2-6in lines covered w/301(very close second)or 3-4 6in lines cologne covered
MX178 w/b-nol
IJ-2x, 20mcg TAC, 12.5mcg p74, 30mcg p83, 30mcg b-nol
-none+TAC+b-nol+meo-est

Come to think about it, I really dont remember having many nights in FL where I had 0 hits. I can always recall seeing something with only a few exceptions. The hits were blatant and quick. 301 and 302 were instant head turners. Especially 302. 292/272 combo created so many DIHL’s that I stopped counting. ICM oil covered with 301, WOW! 301 would lead to a quick head turn, followed by some attenion grabbing, then the longevity of the oil would just sit there and continually punch your target in the face saying “I’m a fun sexy guy and you want to f— me” great stuff man! The IJ combo was a heavy hitter with young, bad boy seeking women. The amount of sexually charged, early 20’s girls this mix effected made it one of my favorites just before leaving FL. MX178: covered in next paragraph.

So here in Nor Cal, MX292 HAS BEEN A DUD. Yes, I just did say that. 2 1/2 bottles of 292 down, and the only really good hit I got was being hit on by a gay college student. Even my most trusted mix (292/272) has produced little to no results. This is very hard to understand. I even tried lowering and raising the spray count and still had little results. ICM oil covered by 301 has produced OK hits here. It DEFINITELY does not hit as quick as it did in FL, but has produced enough hits to talk about. As for the IJ combo, I have had to play with it a bit. I now need 3x of IJ to produce the same type hits I got with 2x in FL. Thats another 12mcgs of -none. That should be noted. Also, removing p74 from the mix has produced better results here. Now, the most consistent Mix has been MX178. HANDS DOWN! It has produced the same consistent hits, at the same dose, in both places. Respect, sexuality, Alpha. Throw some b-nol or a-nol into the equation for a social aspect, what else could you possibly need?

Now, lets break it down. It seems obvious to me that the heat and humidity in FL has alot to do with this. It is rarely hot here, and when it is, its only for a few hours in the afternoon. It is quite cool all the time. In FL you could almost fell the phero’s jumping of your neck. Here, its quite the opposite. I almost feel as if they struggle to get off my skin. I know it sounds weird. Another thing that works against me is the fact that I always have to wear long sleeves. The wrists and forearms are great diffusion points. (especially ICM Oil) Im not going to get too deep into this aspect because I have only been here for for 3 mo. but, FL seemed to have a more laid back, more good times type people. Here in No Cal, I have seemed to run into more…lets say…uptight types. Im not trying to offend anyone, im just reporting what I have seen so far. So does that have something to do with it?

Like I said, I really dont know how to report this. I can get more into detail if asked specific things I guess. I would love to talk about it more, and hear some others thoughts on it. Its been eye opening though.

Things that haven’t changed: -none+TAC+B-nol+meo-est works everywhere. Interchanging the additions of Androstanone (IG), p83, p74, and TAL to that base, depending on the environment, has been VERY consistant in both places. And must I say it again, MX178.

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you’re probably just running into berkeley snobs. your pheros aren’t organic and classy enough for them. :roll_eyes:

seriously though, if you have some free testing time head east over to walnut creek, or down south a bit to at least fremont. much more open people there. WC is a very classy and not-so-snobbish area; mx292 should do well there. i was a south bay guy before i moved (san jose) and had great success with pheros.

also, if you get more inland, the weather changes. not entirely sobe weather, but it was hot as balls in san jose and my pheros were certainly pumping.

Try upping your sprays by one spray and/or spraying them RIGHT before running into people. Thing that sucks about the weather here is that it can be hot, humid, and windy at times so definitely a killer of scent and pheromone strength. So maybe you just need a dose upgrade, or just apply right before encounters. I will admit though, people in CA are sometimes pretty snobby especially in rich areas.

I’ve found seasons do seem alter pheromone effectiveness.
However the hypothesis of location and cultural influence on pheromones is one I’ve thought about often. Your insights have help clarify why some products (A314) work wonderfully where I live and others (IG) don’t really cut it.

Don’t want to give away my location, but after a visit here it wouldn’t come as surprise if you had a story or two about an encounter with snobbery.

So snobby maybe even though they may be affected by the pheromones or your natural attraction (attracted to you) people may probably even go as far as ignoring you, just because of how snobby they are, consider themselves to be too good to be the one to initiate interest, and/or conversation.

I hate to say it but i have noticed this.

#1 good deductions on how climate effects phero’s.

you may want to premix your pheros with some cologne…

I am not a big fan of Polo Explorer… but holy shit does it have silige…

I also have like … 2 gallons of glycol and my EO and some pre mix bases im working with now :slight_smile:

Same thing here in Arizona. Im from a small town in Idaho where everyone is friendly and talks to each other.

Down here, Scottsdale (suburb of Phoenix) is where the rich live and let me tell you, there are a ton of stuck up, snobby people that Scottsdale is called Snobsdale or Snotsdale. Its that bad!!!

People in Scottsdale (particularly women) are incredibly rude and I dont care if a woman looks like a friggin model, no one is above talking to someone else and at least make an effort to be friendly, even if they arent attracted to that person. Its pathetic some of the shit I see down here.

Try adding some baby oil or body oil to your application points to see if the pheromones last longer. Just don’t go too heavy on the oil, and also since Winter is coming up you shouldn’t worry too much about it. Only thing I’d worry about is still having enough body heat or heat in general to help the pheromones fly off the skin especially at night where it can get pretty chilly on a cold night.

Try Walnut Creek, yes, just don’t go to Crosby’s - you wouldn’t fit in.

Avoid Saratoga too. Again, you just wouldn’t feel comfortable. It’s not YOU, of course.

Now when I lived in Florida, it was well understood that the girls from Boca Raton were easy. Berkeley is SO much more evolved than that.

Seriously, that’s one reason I spray on my hair. The diffusion is better.

So grandmaster Whitehall, since you’re filled with experience just how easily can -none be washed off of hair? Since you do this often, do you have any tips? I use Nizoral shampoo for my scalp which was prescribed to me by my doctor. I wonder if this is harsh enough to remove -none from hair as it’s a topical antifungal.

Try the “cleansing” shampoos like Neutragena (sp?) or even Prell. They strip the oils off pretty well.

Conditioning shampoos, not so much.

The Nizoral stuff has other ingredients. Try Neutragena first for cleansing then follow with Nizoral for the treatment.

Thanks Whitehall, I might just start adding some -none to my hair once in awhile and see where it takes me. :slight_smile:

Hey I also live in the PHX area i know there is a slight age difference between us Arizonagolfer but i was wondering what products have you found to get the most hits down here?

Another thin that’s different betwen So FL and Norcal is in SoFL (Fort Laud/Miami) is in So Fl you’re dealing with party girl beach bunnies (more like SoCal and in Nor Cal you’re dealing with artiest/hippychicks. Go to Berkley and you’d think it is 1968.:open_mouth:

I liked Berkley in 1966!!:roll_eyes: I think, now if I could just remember.:smiley: