IYO, if you were to use eRone, -none, b-nol, and TAC at a 1:1:1:1 ratio, do you think it would over-buffer the -none? As in…take away its sexual edge?
Anyone know around how much eRone is in a spray of IG?
I think it is 15mcg rone and a little bit of TAF. I’m 98% sure I’ve seen a post by MHarris saying that.
Tonight:
2x-TUTH
3x-mx178
25mcgs-p83
4-6x-IH
12.5mcg-TAC
Cover is unknown. I need to find a new cologne for cover. I am so bored of Very Sexy.
The more and more colognes I try, the more I find that I dont really like the smell of cologne. I know that doesn’t make any sense but colognes dry down heavy. I think thats what I like the most about the Game scent. It smells like a fresh soap or something. It really doesnt smell like cologne. FF21 has that same quality, but the smell of sour citrus makes it unattractive to me.
So now I am on a mission to find something that fits that description. Doesnt have to smell like Game, It just needs not to smell like cologne. Does that make any sense? I tried a sample of Cool Water Game. It definitely does not smell like the AD Game scent. I also tried regular Cool Water, and Hugo by Hugo Boss, they also do not smell like AD Game. Cool Water had some similiar notes, but smelled nothing like it after dry down.
I wore mx297 today for the first time. I was very surprised at how much of a smooth, uplifting spirit it gave me. It felt like a very, well coordinated mix. Comfortable. Akuto does not mesh with me. I really dont like the way it smells, but it does diffuse better than all the other scents. This Akuto seems different than the Chemical Romance Akuto. Akuto is just to overpowering for me. Everytime I turn my head I get a huge whiff. 297 felt good though. I will test in public sometime soon.
Since coming here to pherotalk I made it a point to search out and try some of the MX’s that id not have alot of reports written about them. In the mix of all of these wre a few gems that I have come to love, and rep the shit out of when reporting. My first was MX272, a social genius. Then it was 301/302. It seemed to be all but forgotten about at one point, and now has become a forum favorite. And even though IJ is a consumer product, I put alot of time into it because I consider it vastly misunderstood. So now its time for me to talk about another MX that I think has been overlooked and under reported.
MX178
I have used this MX at length, and with some additions, has now replaced MX292 as my favorite. MX178 is the most mascaline MX have worn. It is also one of the only MX’s I still get self efects from. This back straitening, walk tall, conquer all mix has produced some awesome, awesome hits for me. It is an IOI, respect me machine. I am not that great at guessing whats in MX’s but I feel -none and erone in here.
MX178 alone is great. It got me alot of eye contact, alot people complimenting me, and alot obvious -none like IOI’s.
The thing with Mx178 is…I think it is incomplete. It seems to lack a social draw. There does not seem be a “I want to talk to him” side to it. So MX178 has become a base for me. An anchor. Like AMMO and A314.
Enter experimeting I tried just about everything with this mix, and I am going to share with you the best combos I found.
3x-MX178
2x TUTH
TAC-20mcg
p83-30mcg
p86-30mcg
p93-10mcg
B-nol-30mcg
TAL-2.5mcg
This produced some of the best sex hits I have seen, but you have to be proactive with it. There is not alot of “approach me” happening here. After approaching, within 8-12 min of being in this cloud, i saw the following: hairplay, space minimizing, shoulder and hip leaning, the initiation of kino, and sex themed convo. This also produced a rock star vibe. I got some really good respect hits. Not over the top like mx320, but enough to mention. This mix led to 2 ONS’s, a few, good, “I dont know what came over me” make out sessions, (I hate using the words make out, what am I in high school) with heavy petting (there has to be a better way to describe it besides heavy petting). This one is a winner.
3x-Mx178
30 mcg-p83
10 mcg-p74
100-150 mcg-meo-est
20 mcg-TAC
3x-IH
2x-IO
2x-IS 2x
Great mix, sexy and social. The vibe it gives is…strong, sexy, and appraochable. Maybe even a “provider” vibe. This has turned out to be one of my best # getting mixes (with call backs). Hits included: hairplay, velcro effect, smiles o plenty, leaning in, compliments, and welcomed kino. Great stuff.
All of the above hits on mixes were consistant. There were some really, really good nights with mix #1. I would be typing for days if I were to outline each night. There are many more combo’s that work well with 178, but these were the best. MX178 is up there with the best of them in my book. The bad part is I only have a half 5ml left, and I dont think it will ever be reproduced. I sure do wish I knew what was in it. I wish I knew what gives me the back straightening, mascaline presence. I do know that I love it, and will miss it. I could do so much more with it if I just had an idea of what I am spraying on myself.
I hate to say it but, since moving here to CA MX292 has been a complete dud. It is well documented that I have had great hits with this mix. I have even tried my favorite 292/272 combo, and had little to no success. Really, the last time I got a hit from that combo was from a gay guy who hit on me at a beer/wine bar in Berkeley in July. To be honest, alot of my best mx’s and combo’s have been vastly less effective here in CA. Even 301 and 302 have been falling short. I just dont understand it. I think I am going to work on a report that compares my So. FL phero experience vs. my No. CA experience. The differences have been sugnificant.
I look forward to reading that! I hadn’t really thought about how different parts of the country could affect the results of the pheros.
Ive been wondering about this for a while now. I live in Arizona and its hot, dry air (except for the winter) and Im wondering if the dry air evaporates the mones faster than humid type air that Florida has.
Im not quite sure how to say this but, I just got back from the mailbox and in it was an envelope. Inside this envelope is a 5ml bottle of Pheromone Additive. I am assuming that this is NPA. Also included were some samples of perception, the edge, scent of eros and alter ego. Folks, it seems I have graduated from drinking and dialing/texting to drinking and phero-ing. I do not remember ordering it. WOW
After doing some thinking, I think I am going to revisit the RPTP.I have a theroy that maybe the cologne I was using as a cover had alot to do with my lack of success with it. Of course I need to find a good cover first. 312 seems to be the one I have got best results with so far so I think I will start there. But lets talk honestly, has anyone had super success with any of these? Has anyone actually found one that lives up to the name Raw Power?
Im Not really sure how to report this, so I am just going to lay it out there.
I moved here to Nor Cal about 3 months ago from Ft. Lauderdale, FL. The differences I have seen while wearing pheros is too much not to talk about.
So FL’s greatest hits were:
MX292-3x
MX292/MX272 3x/2x (Trophy Winner)
301-3x
302-3x
ICM Oil- 2-6in lines covered w/301(very close second)or 3-4 6in lines cologne covered
MX178 w/b-nol
IJ-2x, 20mcg TAC, 12.5mcg p74, 30mcg p83, 30mcg b-nol
-none+TAC+b-nol+meo-est
Come to think about it, I really dont remember having many nights in FL where I had 0 hits. I can always recall seeing something with only a few exceptions. The hits were blatant and quick. 301 and 302 were instant head turners. Especially 302. 292/272 combo created so many DIHL’s that I stopped counting. ICM oil covered with 301, WOW! 301 would lead to a quick head turn, followed by some attenion grabbing, then the longevity of the oil would just sit there and continually punch your target in the face saying “I’m a fun sexy guy and you want to f— me” great stuff man! The IJ combo was a heavy hitter with young, bad boy seeking women. The amount of sexually charged, early 20’s girls this mix effected made it one of my favorites just before leaving FL. MX178: covered in next paragraph.
So here in Nor Cal, MX292 HAS BEEN A DUD. Yes, I just did say that. 2 1/2 bottles of 292 down, and the only really good hit I got was being hit on by a gay college student. Even my most trusted mix (292/272) has produced little to no results. This is very hard to understand. I even tried lowering and raising the spray count and still had little results. ICM oil covered by 301 has produced OK hits here. It DEFINITELY does not hit as quick as it did in FL, but has produced enough hits to talk about. As for the IJ combo, I have had to play with it a bit. I now need 3x of IJ to produce the same type hits I got with 2x in FL. Thats another 12mcgs of -none. That should be noted. Also, removing p74 from the mix has produced better results here. Now, the most consistent Mix has been MX178. HANDS DOWN! It has produced the same consistent hits, at the same dose, in both places. Respect, sexuality, Alpha. Throw some b-nol or a-nol into the equation for a social aspect, what else could you possibly need?
Now, lets break it down. It seems obvious to me that the heat and humidity in FL has alot to do with this. It is rarely hot here, and when it is, its only for a few hours in the afternoon. It is quite cool all the time. In FL you could almost fell the phero’s jumping of your neck. Here, its quite the opposite. I almost feel as if they struggle to get off my skin. I know it sounds weird. Another thing that works against me is the fact that I always have to wear long sleeves. The wrists and forearms are great diffusion points. (especially ICM Oil) Im not going to get too deep into this aspect because I have only been here for for 3 mo. but, FL seemed to have a more laid back, more good times type people. Here in No Cal, I have seemed to run into more…lets say…uptight types. Im not trying to offend anyone, im just reporting what I have seen so far. So does that have something to do with it?
Like I said, I really dont know how to report this. I can get more into detail if asked specific things I guess. I would love to talk about it more, and hear some others thoughts on it. Its been eye opening though.
Things that haven’t changed: -none+TAC+B-nol+meo-est works everywhere. Interchanging the additions of Androstanone (IG), p83, p74, and TAL to that base, depending on the environment, has been VERY consistant in both places. And, must I say it again MX178
Thank you, I found your report very useful. I am in a colder climate and also found that certain mixes like the ones you mentioned MX292 and MX301 have been less successful than other members reports from warmer climates.
how many sprays of a314, IO, IS, etc do you recommend in cold areas?
Cons -----------------------------------------Pros
Akuto scented --------------------------------------awesome hits
Not able to be covered ---------------------------lots of female attention
Not available anymore ------------------------------attention keeper
Akuto scented--------------------------------------- status hits
Not able to be covered ---------------------------sensual lip licking (a first)
Not available anymore --------------------------------sex talk
Akuto scented------------------------------------- distance minimizer
Not able to be covered--------------------------------hits over 6 ft.
Not available anymore
Akuto scented
Not able to be covered
Not available anymore
MX 149 & MX150
Inventory Day
MX’S
MX138-1
MX148-1/2 (DUD)
MX149-3 SPRAYS
MX150-1/2
MX151-1/3
MX152-1/4
MX178-1
MX200-3/4
MX203-4
MX252-1/2
MX272-6
MX291-1
MX292-6 1/2-5ML(NEROLI SCENTED)
MX297-1-3/4
MX289-1/2
MX301-1
MX302-1
MX303-3/4
MX304-1
MX311-1/3
MX312-1/2
MX313-3/4
MX314-3/4
MX315-3/4
MX316-3/4
MX320-3/4
MX331-1
MX332-1
MX333-1
MX334-3/4
TO-GO’S
IO 2X-4
IS 2X-2
IH 2X-1/2
IJ-1
IJ W/COPS-3/4
IG-1/3
AMMO-FUMES
MB-1/2
SPACELAND-1-1/2
30ML
AMMO-1
AMMO 2X-1-3/4
IO-1/3
TUTH-3/4
IFM-3/4
IS 4X-3/4
OTHERS
NPA-1
FPPx2-1/2
ICM OIL-1/8
HOMEBREWS 5ML
CAVEMAN-1/2
BARRY WHITE-1/4
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS-3/4
HEAD TURNER-1/8
EXPERIMONES & P’S SOME OTER DAY
Revisiting TAK
12-15mcg
I am disconnected. i seem to be on my own island as everything else is happening around me. I was really into the Gators game before I put this on. Now I could really care less about it, the phone calls I had to make, the cleaning I had to do, I really dont care about anything right now. Im kind of dizzy/lightheaded and all my limbs are heavy. I am having a very noticable lack of emotion. Wow, i dont want to do anything, and I really dont have a problem with it. This is very different from the las time I tested it. I am starting to have kind of a “fuck off” sort of additude.
Where do you buy perfumers alcohol?
So, lets discuss something. In my experience I have found that TAA, A-Anol, P74, and p86 are the quickest acting Phero’s. As in, they are received the fastest. In theory, you would think that when mixed with slower acting pheros they would all be enabled to hit at the same time. Or, are people’s sensory reception different to each molecule? Why are the social sensors stimulated before the sex/sensual sensors? Do you get what I mean?
The reason I ask is, one of my homebrews has showed that it can grab attention pretty fast, but only half of it is hitting right away. It seems that the attraction side of the mix needs longer for the targets to receive.
Should this be a Main Forum question?
Where do you buy a graduated pipette? Like, one that has .1, .2, .3 etc. The ones that AD sells only have whole #'s and halfs.
I saw a thread on pherotalk about different pipettes, including professional ones for use in science labs. Do a search for it!!! Your question about reaction speeds is interesting. I am wondering if you have noticed a difference in speeds between males and females? The reason I ask is that the Social/Sexual speed difference could be related to Parasympathetic/Sympathetic nervous systems which are used differently for males and females.
I noticed that at work today. I was wearing an ICM 1a oil composite and it seemed that the TAA, P93 and P74 reeled them in immediately and the ~none hooked them and kept their attention. 