Actually sharing at least a bit of infield experience with mones during daygaming.
I still have some approach anxiety…work in process ______________________________________________
Date: November 4th, 2012
Temperature/Weather:
Cool, humid
pheromones applied:
IShine/Ammo/IG/IO (2:1:1:3). Low IG dosage so I would not end up in friends zone with it.
Initial self-effect(s):
Felt kinda overwhelmed- I did not really know how to feel. I felt like it was too much at the same time.
Hits:
The first girl approached was right at the tram station. She was tall, which I don’t like so much, but she was looking really cute. I was kinda messing up that set, but it didn’t matter much really, hehe. The IO seemed to do its job. Without building much attraction, after 30 seconds she was all out talking and chatty. I made an assumption and she told me a detailed story. I don’t think she has been into me much, though. No IOI.
When I arrived at city centre there weren’t many targets around – who on earth would go to the city centre on a Sunday in cold Winter anyway…? Did some cold approaches that weren’t much different from normal aside from the chattiness.
Conclusion:
My sweet spots are 1-2 for IG, 2-3 for IShine, 3 for IO and 1-2 for Ammo. Today it was the first time I used a mix based on products I knew all sweet spots about. I went to the minimum on most. What I noticed was that the self effects kinda did not kick in much but also after a few approaches in the city I was tired out and heading home.
Maybe I should spice it up with a second spray of Ammo, or I should just add a spray of P75 and see what happens. Stay tuned, but next week is gonna be hell of a lot of work. No promises about daygame reports here.
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I decided to leave the IG out and bring it in on a D2 if I am slightly interested in a LTR with her already.
Which is hardly ever the case. I’m extremely picky.
Instead, I’ll take the IShine / Ammo / IO combo (gotta love when I don’t have to do much after approaching and she talks like a waterfall to a complete stranger) and hit the city centre again either today or within this week.
Also I’ll be using IG + IShine at work, adding some extra if it works out well.
Not sure if it’s a hit lol but actually worth mentioning…In the tram right next to me a ~11 year old boy sat down. All of the sudden he started shouting he was going to kill all humans and that we’re all going to die.
The mones helped me keep my calm completely (what an annoying brat) and stare him down with eye contact. He left the tram intimidated.At work, I was holding a presentation. People were fascinated by my presentation style & paralinguistics and my passion. I got really nice feedback.
It was easier than usual to captivate the whole audience, all the time.
Still, I was nervous at times and messed some lines up – didn’t matter in the end however.
Conclusion:
The combo makes you a man people want to listen to.
It makes you react confident and quick if needed (if fits your personality well).
Recommendable. ______________________________________________
I use IShine majorly for self-effects. Were you talking about only effects on others, but also a lack of self effects as well?
I can imagine 2-3 might not be sufficient for some people.
For me personally, 2 means good mood, 3 means happy & confident & giddy and 4 means spacy. I didn’t try past 4. You can see my results with IShine as standalone in this journal, on the first page there’s the links to the posts.
So if you have never tried past 3 sprays, try going higher. Some people don’t get as spacy as I get with 4 sprays before they have used 6-7. The range is huge.
Also, try spraying one or two below your nose. And then breathe in deep. For me it causes a very sensual feeling between tummy and chest. But according to others I’m very sensitive to mones. Still, try it!
Actually, one day I’ll spray 5 x IShine and go out with it
As you can see from my journal entries, neck is my favorite area - especially if you’re outside (daygaming etc), you usually can’t use wrists nor forearms, chest… which really sucks.
Spraying to my ear strangely only has subtle effects compared to neck; and the alcohol dries out the hair a lot and I want that not to happen.
The best effects on others are from the hair, I think, if you got a bit spiky front hair and naturally shake your head a bit.
After that comes: from my experience the neck. Esp. in Winter, around ears and below nose it’s basically frozen, so there’s hardly any diffusion. No use spraying there. I basically spray EVERYTHING around my neck area as it heats up effectively, allowing diffusion to happen easier.
hey Mysterion how ur doing?
I’d like to ask you, which pheromone that u tried so far was ur best? What were the results?
Did any that u used…really made u attractive to women and got women want you ?
this is not easy to answer, because you didn’t specify what category you were talking about.
Like this I can only say that I find IShine to be best. It fits in every mix, I get satisfying self-effects as well as noticeable effects on others; being just happy and having the youthful vibe also makes you very attractive to girls, if you know how to use it right. It smoothens the mood in bad situations.
Then sexually Tuth - it’s a two-edged sword actually - on four of five of my dates it hits like a truck. Zero resistance. On the other 20% it has an intimidating effect and she just won’t relax. If that happens, wash it away with soap. People tend to recommend P83; I have a 37.5mcg one and it didn’t have any very positive effects on me yet. It might be OD.
My next order will have a lower dosage P83 and 2.5mcg P75, so stay tuned
Today was sorta the 8th day since I sarged last time. It’s brrrrrr cold and I never felt like it. However today I was like “fuck it, if you don’t wanna go and flirt in the cold (at 08:30 pm), at least stay social and do some mini approaches”.
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Date: November 12th, 2012
pheromones applied: **
IShine / IO (3:2), the Shine below Nose (2) and on neck (1) and both IO to neck.
Initial self-effect(s):
Mood lit up a bit but still discouraged
Hits :
Went to the shop ~10 minutes from my place. Outside, approached ~10 people asking for a time or direction. Made a compliment when I was in the mood. Outside people weren’t talkative tho and the IShine didn’t quite seem to hit them. I myself had a reduced effect from the mones but still noticed some.
Random guy in the shop; asking for time, and we actually had a one minute talk. An employee joined us and we had a short talk. 3 strangers. lol The random guy was ~40, the employee looked like mid 20s. All male.
HB6. Asked her for the time and made a joke about her when she noticed she forgot her watch and was goofily searching for her mobile phone =) Nice talk, but no interest from either side.
Casheer. Male. He was being very friendly; had a nice short talk and actually he honestly admit how overpriced the spices (I bought) were.
Conclusion:
Approaches outdoor: ~10
Noticed hits: 0
Approaches indoor: 5
Noticed hits: 3
This result should speak for itself. Sometimes mones hit outside but seems I have to use like twice as much. But I won’t. I rather go sarging without any mones or do it in a building.
Nevertheless I will try again later. ______________________________________________
I re-checked out Mx297
I still hate the scent of it but I can bear with it at 1 spray only To the neck every time, I’d love to spray on my arms but oh well it’s Winter…
I tested 1 spray over a few days.
The duration is roughly 3 hours and the range medium (~3-4 feet maybe indoors, 1-2 feet outdoors)
I got some subtle hits from class mates, those who are around me use the opportunity to start a talk and I’m usually a bit giddy wearing Mx297, knowing I’m in the spotlight. They react positively to it.
No hits from girls I noticed (outdoor -> tram -> class -> tram -> outdoor), but it was only testing for 3 days so no conclusions here, except one who seemed to be totally confused and not being able to think clearly while being around me.
Atm I see an effect but am not really satisfied with it. Will keep you updated!
Situation: 2 exams today. 2 exams I really didn’t feel confident in sitting. In addition some other shit going on.**
Date: November 16th, 2012
pheromones applied: **
IShine / IG (2:2), IShine on jaw (2) and IG to neck (2).
Initial self-effect(s):
“I got dis.”. I’m using affirmations a lot whenever I spot self-criticism thoughts popping into my mind and counter them. It happened a lot this night/morning. But after I sprayed on the mones I didn’t spot any more negative thoughts. I had the “I got dis” feeling.
Self-effect(s):
I had more energy and more concentration boost as I had courage. However I was powered out pretty quickly (after 3 hours of exams).
Wasn’t best looking today but didn’t care really.
Conclusion:
I know I mentioned this (and esp. this combo) before, but today it kinda saved my day I feel. So here’s it one more time: it’s just awesome for value+confidence boost and to get rid of negative self talk (especially if you’re already good at spotting and countering those thoughts). ______________________________________________
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Date: Forgot to take that note, lol
pheromones applied: **
Mx297 (2) to neck
Initial self-effect(s):
Felt a bit different, can’t explain how though. My emotions didn’t really change…
Self-effect(s):
After some time, I went to “don’t give a fuck” and giddy mode.
Hits:
None specific really, some people around me might have got caught in my giddy mode emotion bubble, or they have been influenced by mones or both. I don’t know. All I can say is we were all talking nonsense and laughed about it
Conclusion:
Mx297 generally has very subtle to none effects on me however only on 1 spray. I don’t like the effect of 2 sprays because in the end I felt a bit worse (tired) and it’s giving off a hard beta vibe. I’m not beta. I felt significant difference.
Maybe I’m just not getting the optimal Mx297 effect because I am a serious (but charmant yet intimidating at times) leader. Maybe it contradicts with my personality. I won’t blame the mone here.
But one thing still to say:
wtf akuto, this scent blows so hard. x_x ______________________________________________
This stuff is awesome! I felt so happy. IG did its usual part: was able to hold eye contact longer, my body language changed a bit (positive).
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Hits:
I doubt it were the mones as I was always quite far away (outdoor/tram) but whenever I held eye contact for quite some time with girls I felt attracted to, they looked down and a good third of them blushed.
Conclusion:
And again I have been proven right saying that IShine(3) is my sweet spot. I should use IShine(3) even in mixes. It’s just a must!
I think the girls weren’t directly affected by the mones but they gave me more confidence to hold eye contact for really long and establish it more often. I felt like the king of the wooooorld!
However the duration of them is awfully short. Maybe 2 hours for main effects, 1 for subtle, then gone! ______________________________________________
I’m looking for more sexual hits OUTSIDE of the club. Went there before I even started gaming (2 1/2 years ago) and two girls got sexual towards me (no mones, no game, no experience!). Was that special? Indeed. Because I had the feeling no one would find me attractive until then. I didn’t ever get many IOI whatsoever before the club visit. But inside I kinda had the feeling half of them were hookers xD It seems very easy to get sexual in a club, hence it wasn’t my thing because a) I like to get to know the people for at least an hour before touching, regardless of how hot they are and b) I like challenges.
So yeah, I went on to daygaming for my life. The thing is that I have to fight hard to get laid through daygaming. I hardly ever get obvious IOI; what some people describe to experience STILL seems impossible to me after months of using mones; I’m talking about IOI with a sexual spark or touch added in every-day environment.
My target age range: 18-23.
So I would appreciate suggestions for mixes to wear.
If I have used them for a week I will report about it, if there’s something to report.
Now it’s not too cold so they should diffuse slowly, but steadily.
In the next post I’ll describe what I have tested and what I have yet to test.
Tested
Ammo x1: nothing to report about really
Ammo x2: very confident feeling! Not caring about possibly not looking best at that time…
Ammo x1 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits
Ammo x2 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits Ammo x1 Instant Openness x3: I felt the IO 's effect literally! When I met girls on the street they were chatty as fudge. No IOI though before approach.
Ammo x2 Instant Openness x3: same as above
Ammo x2 Instant Gentleman x1: only self effects. No IOI , but I got a “I got dis” feeling for half of the day after application.Very tired out after the effect.
Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 2: Ah that was a wonderful relaxed day. It was stressful Winter but indeed feeling like Summer, kinda. I was enjoying myself and forgot about my worries. Less than a hand full of IOI over 3 weeks.
Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 1: same as above Summer Ammo x 1 Instant Gentleman x 1: nice confidence boast! I got some social hits around mates. Often just wanting to be around me. IG x 1 : None IG x 2 : self effects, respect social hits. IG x 3 : good, but worse than IG x 2. Mx297 x1 : subtle social hits Mx297 x2 : social hits Mx297 x3 : headache, less hits than with Mx297 x2
No obvious sexual hits, hardly any IOI from the mixes above. Others seem to have it so easy ._.
Yet to test:
Possible combinations with P75:
P75 (2.5) P83 (40) (thanks monesmadedoit)
P75 (2.5) Summer Ammo (thanks dsouza)
0,5 x Ammo + 2.5 mcg P75 + 2 x IS + 1x IO (thanks komax1976)
3x Ammo + 3x IO + 3x IShine + 30 mcg P74 + 25 mcg P83 (+1x Mx297) (thanks Steve)
1x Ammo + 3x IO + 3x IShine + 30 mcg P74 + 25 mcg P83 (+1x Mx297) (thanks Steve)
P74 (25) + P83 (37.5 - 66) + 2x IShine + Summer Ammo ( +perhaps Tuth)(Thanks Roy_Dillon HITS @ KFC & CLIENT too - #6 by Mysterion)
