Hey everybody. Been messing around with AD products for a few months and lurking the forums here and there, but haven’t really had a serious question for the experts until now. Enlighten me: basically, I have a thing for nerd girls. Or dork girls, geek girls, gamer chicks, sexy librarians, etc. whatever you want to label them. I think, however, that this is a much tougher target group when it comes to mones-- considering most of these mixes are about projecting a super-dominant, alpha-male sex god James Bond King Leonidas sort of picture, which works excellent when attempting to snare one of the millions of vapid American princesses roaming the bars.
Long story short: got a GC from the fine folks at AD, want to find product/mix(es) that would be helpful in meeting and attracting the Liz Lemons and Olivia Munns of this world. Just curious what you guys have to say. Much love, pherobros.
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I’m not sure about the mixes, but thought I’d give you some ideas, since I am a nerd girl. Super Alpha is gross to me. They come off as jackasses…(and I won’t finish that thought). Super Beta (stereotypical nerd boy) is also gross. I met a few who were actually mumbly – turns out they were hopeful submissives as well, but I don’t have the interest in “raising” someone. So what you want, and what is becoming the new “thing” in the world of business, is Alpha/Beta crossover, because bosses want teamwork, not leaders and minions.
Anyway, to me, this is “classic gentleman.” Outwardly chivalrous (holding doors, helping me with my coat, loaning me yours, and walking on the outside of the sidewalk tickles me in silly ways), but of course with a nod to feminism. Don’t RUSH to do these things, and by all means, if she holds a door for you, happily let her. But you still want to be your own man, just not a game player. Nerds aren’t typically long on social subtleties; I personally don’t understand them, and when I do see them, am just utterly confused. Still you need to show interest via flirting, hopefully verbal and some gentle physical touch as well. We can be skittish creatures, easily startled, or at least think we’re supposed to seem demure and shy or “ladylike.” Or we ARE truly shy. Young boys rarely idolize smarter girls, so personally I learned to hide any attraction as the ‘popular’ boys “couldn’t possibly be interested” in me, in part because they thought it was a funny joke to pretend. So you need to show you’re stable, that you’re there because you’re interested in her and not going to “bounce” for the next girl that’s 0.5 hotter.
This doesn’t mean obsequiousness, still hang with your friends and go dance and have fun, follow your hobbies; just don’t get so focused on them that you appear to exclude her. (I’ve lots of nerd-boy friends with girl-issues.)
Anyway, this is the “attitude” I’d say you need to project. Not the “I can get any chick, but I’m with you now,” just “I want to spend my time with you.”
Not really. I’m not saying they’re “easy” mind you. But really no “tougher” than any other group. This is true of either mones or your style of game.
Try to bear in mind a couple of nerdy factoids. Mones developed naturallu over millions of years to communicate information about us. For purposes here, we’re usually aiming for information that makes us seem attractive.
While there may be differences in personal preference for the lean olympic diver type of look, or the more solid and stout look of an amatuer bodybuilder, the bottom line is physical health is an attractive trait. And many of the more attractive mones communicate things like “I am healthy and can produce healthy offspring”
This is physical evolution…social evolution happened much more recently and at a much faster pace. To the degree that our conscious wants can sometimes have little to do with our basic instincts. Sex is sex and an orgasm is an orgasm…so why then are people still attracted to signs of an ability to produce healthy offspring even when the individual may be consciously against the idea of children?
In other words, If I’m wearing a condom and praying that I don’t get anyone pregnant, what the fuck difference does it make if the woman is pretty or not?
Instincts override conscious thought.
To that end, what is attractive to as you so eloquently hated…I mean stated…the vapid princesses, has just as much chance of being attractive to a nerd girl.
I knew TONS of nerdy guys when I was in school and most were crushing on the same hotties that the jocks and badboys were chasing. These were science guys, rpg gamers, sci fi fans, chess and latin club nerds, you name it. And they were every bit as shallow and looks oriented as the “james bonds” of the world.
I figure for every nerdy boy stroking it to a playboy centerfold, there’s as likely to be a nerdy girl wrapped up in a book wishing for some dashing prince charming to accept her in all her nerd glory forsaking all the stereotypical generic hotties for her.
A girl being smart doesn’t mean that strength, confidence and independence cease to be attractive to her.
As for the signal…mones are very generic in their communication. I corrected another member some time ago on this. Seems he assumed that by wearing A314 he would give off a vibe that he wouldn’t be the type of man to be seen in this club or that club but only in the most upscale places.
Mones don’t give THAT much info. The information that give is filtered through the rest of your image.
A man in a military uniform wearing A314 might be seen as being a good candidate for officer training.
A business suit and power tie and he’s the chairman of the board…or at least on the fast track to becoming one.
A wife beater and some baggy pants, and now he’s the LEADER of a street gang.
It’s all about the context of presentation, a masculine “alpha” mone mix under the right conditions and within the right context and you could be seen a god among geeks…the leader of your Magic the Gathering club, the emperor of Worlds of Warcraft etc.
As a side note…have you SEEN the guys Olivia Munn has dated? Not exactly nerdy boys. Her being smart doesn’t seem to have changed her idea’s about what an attractive guy is.
In fact…thats a damn good idea. You want to know how to attract an Olivia Munn? Do some research on who HAS attracted Olivia Munn, now you have a template.
IME, it encourages the WOW!/impressive factor at your personallity or personal skills. And when combined with a little A314, it helps get you accepted as an authority on all sorts of things. Which can be a powerful attractor to someone with a good mind themselves.
Stumbled upon this post in my surfings today. Wow. What great insights from all of you. I don’t have much to add to the conversation (wait, yes I do. time constraints) however I feel the urge to bump it. Whatever happened to RADMAN and ScienceStudent? I find myself reading their back catalog of posts now, intrigued.
Actually we do - I’ve had some promising results with P97/sexual mixes over the last year or so - It does seem to be the nerdy/geeky/gothy ones that get most flustered by them.
Would love to se some more guys pick this up and run with it.
Someone please come test them on me! Whisper about literature and sci-fi in my ear, and I’ll be yours forever! After I kick your ass in board games, of course!
Some of the nerdiest (comic-con/gamer) type girls are the most promiscuous I know.
It is counterintuitive until you know them.
The nerdgirl subspecies, ime, thrives on knowledge and experimentation, and once she reaches sexual awakening, she is as voracious with sex as she is with posting poetic postulations to her tumblr. One short note is that depending on her level of emotional maturity, you’re either in for a wild (good) ride or wild (chew-up-spit-out) ride.
And don’t get me started on the phd candidates I’ve encountered who learn about sex toys. You’re in trouble if you don’t know how to wield that sword. It’s not impossible, but it’s a healthy manly challenge to beat a nerdgirl, her knowledge of her intimate mapping, and her pleasure robot, but you have the upper hand: mechanical silicone things don’t have axillary glands and thusly are missing
the male sex smell.
My internal dialogue is saying right now: OK. FUCK. BRIAN. STOP PROCRASTINATING. GET BACK TO WORK AND QUIT POSTING.
Super Beta (stereotypical nerd boy) is also gross. I met a few who were actually mumbly – turns out they were hopeful submissives 
as well, but I don’t have the interest in “raising” someone. So what you want, and what is becoming the new “thing” in the world of business, is Alpha/Beta crossover, because bosses want teamwork, not leaders and minions.
