I’ve been reading a lot of reports of guys here getting hits of very gorgeous girls.That’s great.
But seems that,with some mixes,the less dominant girls tend to back off.
Since i love girls with a more innocent/bashful vibe, i’d like to know which pheromones or combinations the more experienced guys already field tested with relevant sucess on attracting these girls in a way that they are drawn to you instead of repelled - either for getting nervous either for feeling outclassed.
I need something that would make this type of girl treat you as a potential lover or boyfriend and being confortable with it.
Attracting is great.But if she doesn’t feel confortable to stick around you can’t be a potential anything.
I feel i am,but i still hope i’m not asking much.
Thanks.
I’d say go easy on -none, (stick to Ammo unless you’re in the bedroom), and go heavy on the socials to make the girls more chatty & comfortable… IH is a great choice, as would mixes with P74 be.
A bit of TAA, A-nol or IS to brighten the overall mood
Oh, and how about a bit of Instant Gentleman? I bet that would be a great one
I don’t think backing off in -none application is the answer here. These ‘beta girls’ won’t necessarily respond less well to -none than the ‘alpha girls’. What happens is that they just won’t express their feelings/thoughts the way ‘alpha girls’ do. So, if you just stand there looking at them, you end up getting nothing.
Your attitude is what will make a difference. You must put them confortable around you. While you can expect an alpha girl to approach you, you shouldn’t think likewise when beta girls are concerned. You must approach them in a friendly way and make them see that you’re a nice guy to hang out with after all and that you’re not outclassing them. This applies whether you’re using pheromones or not.
I’ve been using A314 since I ordered it and I realise now this is pure gold if you do an effort to approach women… but it may be totally useless (and even make it harder for you to get hits) if you just expect them to talk to you (I’m just refering to attraction here, not pure professional goals). Ironic, but true…
The last couple of girls I’ve been with have been in this category - I prefer being with 6-7s that I can have an interesting conversation with, rather than 8-9s that worry about which handbag to buy (I’ve not suggesting ALL 8-9s are like this - just the ones I know..
What works for me are heavy social phereos with a dash of something sexy. I go with CTTM2 (around 4 sprays) + Ammo or more recently MX203 or MX292, which are both fantastic for these types of girl.
Once you start a conversation with a girl wearing these, they’ll end up just trailing you around
BTW, if you go more than a couple of dates, TUTH seems to switch on the ‘crazy uninhibited sex drive’ switch for these girls - they’re so happy you noticed them, they’ll do anything!! So much fun
My thoughts on -none and shyer women is that they do respond even better than their more outgoing counterparts. That’s why I don’t think one needs as much to get things started. Socials, both the pheromone type and the skills type, are the key.
I’m like Nigel though, once the ice has melted…TUTH is crazy. Just don’t rush in with it.
Awesome answers!
I’m probably gonna try Instant Honesty + Instant Shine + something with -none(probably a bit of Alpha-7,which also contains a bit of -rone) as soon as my orders arrive.
Thanks
Personally I prefer 69 girls although 96 isn’t bad if I don’t feel like I’m being warerboarded.
Incidentally, almost all women love purses. Has nothing to do with their age, ethnic origin or appearance.
I find less attractive women tend to be more obsessed with their appearance than more attractive women. After all, naturally attractive women have already got it going on and don’t have to work at it. So they work on other aspects of their life. It’s just that guys are fooled and blinded by their physical appearance and don’t noticed much beyond that.
Most i met rely on looks for almost everything and end up not working on other aspects.Life is pretty easy for a 9-10 on looks scale.
69 girls aren’t bad tough
I guess if you’re 19 and daddy is still paying the bills. Eventually she’ll have to get the skills and education to complement her physical appearance and keep herself in the style she’s used to.
I suspect most guys confuse nice clothing, makeup and a toned body with natural beauty. These girls are not naturally beautiful and had to work damn hard to look the way they do. A naturally beautiful woman doesn’t have to work at it much–other than stay healthy–and would look hot in a rice bag with no makeup. I’ve known many naturally beautiful women whom were career minded workaholics. On the other hand, her lessor endowed sisters evolved to bimbo status due to an obsession with tweaking their less than perfect appearance, often to the exclusion of all else of substance in life.
Instant Gentleman with Instant Openness and Instant Shine. Best things I’ve ever seen to get the shy ones to open up. Actually, MX116 also does that. Once they do and they feel comfortable around you, Meo-Est with P83 and TUTH.
Meo-Est, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, androsterone, androstenone, P83, P74 and some TAH and TAL. I’d wear something like this…
25 mcg Meo-Est (will calm and relax you and her - need a lot more than this for very fast effects though; I haven’t tested more yet)
10 mcg alpha nol (open her up socially, make her comfortable talking)
5 mcg beta nol (make her feel more comfortable with you and a bit more willing to act on the truth)
10 mcg androstenone (more none than I usually suggest, but it’s well buffered several ways here; primary masculine/sexual)
7.5 mcg androsterone (another masculine; helps steer her perception of you by balancing the none)
20 mcg P83 (sexy/touchy/erotic/do it now response)
15 mcg P74 (androstedienone replacement, socializer, calmative)
5 mcg TAL (make her more confident and forthright, and make you seem more well rounded)
5 mcg TAH (make her feel sexy and kittenish… when a woman feels sexy, she thinks sexy and acts sexy)
That should do some nice things with the Beta girls… just make sure you buffer our high doses of none well, or they can frighten the Betas.
Beta girls are my type too. I find for the most part beta girl are attracted to exactly the same pheromones as alpha girls - they actually appear more receptive. A combo of Ammo, Instant Female Magic, Instant shine and either IO or IH is your best bet in my opinion.
My girlfriend is a cute little beta and I found the downside to Ammo (the upside was that she was ridiculously attracted) was that the anone made her quite quiet. I made a thread about it here:
I wasn’t able to rectify this with different pheromones. I did however manage to solve this by qualifying her more and doing more comfort with her. I also made a thread about that:
To summarise: There is no need to change your pheromone approach with betas, but you will have to learn to treat them differently. I find you have to lead the interaction much more with beta girls than with alphas.
Catlord, I’d love to pick your brain on TAL and TAH. I’m finding them tricky little molecules to implement into my mixes and I know you have a good understanding on them. What’s the secret?
Simple. Learn to paint with exotic colors by mastering each color by itself.
Once you understand each “color”, you should be able to figure out, for the most part, how they interact. Then… play! What kind of problems are you having?
Sound advice from the meow man! True too, always (obviously) good to try everything by itself first. Just takes some real close attention depending on the “color.”
I’ve tried TAL quite extensively on its own. Between 2.5 and 10mcg. I’m finding when I add it too a mix its either too much or too little. Either way it feels to be very distracting from other molecules within the mix.
