I’ve noticed a pattern when wearing pheromones around females. Alpha females seem to be immune to the molecules unlike their Beta counterparts. This includes a lot of different mixes. I’m beginning to think if an Alpha femme is affected at all it would be with something like A314. The girls I attract to are educated, classy, assertive, ect. They know what they want in a man. Within the first few minutes of conversation they inquire about prior marital status, offspring, education level, career, and debt. If I “qualify” past that point the conversation usually lightens up and from there they are waiting to see if I’m lying.
I’m only attracted to Beta types for short term casual affairs. These girls react well with sexual mixes. Respect mixes seem to put me in an “untouchable” category with them. To land Beta girls I engage in totally different conversation steering away from my background.
The Alpha females are probably testing you. If you answer all their question, one of two things, you become a beta in their eyes (who submits personal information that quickly to a stranger) time to reframe. Then you’re subjecting yourself to more shit tests, cause now they wanna see how much more compliance they can get out of you. A314 will definitely work but you gotta back it up with actions.
This is a very interesting quote or idea being posed… maybe the beta girls are betas for a reason and all mixes tend to work great on them, some are so strong and they are so beta that something like A314 is too much for them to the point that your put in the “untouchable” status… So a alpha girl that feels like she knows what she wants, she is confident, she goes and gets what she wants… etc etc… this girl probably asks for more out of guys in general or she may even have a cast of her ideal guy with traits in her mind… When you come up to a person that thinks of themself highly such as alpha or type A personality you can almost expect that it may take more to impresse them. So yes you should almost expect that an alpha person, strong willed person, high status person, some one very intelligent, etc… these people may be harder to get blatant or obvious phero hits such as respect, or desire. Im a very aware guy, I would have to say im sorta like Thomaslovoie in the respect that I have alot of energy and a sharp brain… so if a person was to wear pheromones around me with out me knowing I would ended up questioning the person in my head wether they were being congruent with the phero sig my brain was registering.
So in short if this girl is sharp and more what you would expect LTR material then expect her to know this and for her to want more… there is a reason why they are one night stands
O agree with Mustang…when an Alpha Girl askes ..it’s because she’s testing you…1st of all it’s rude to grill someone like that…so if you’re wear A314 and a girl grills you…call her on it…like “Who are you Barbara Walters?..am I on TV or something?” Why are you being weird asking me so many personal questions when you don’t even know me? Your cute but relax, you’re coming off as desperate..I don’t even know you and you’re grilling me about offspring? If she’s with her friends I’d look at them and say…is she always like this? Make a face like “oookay” and then go back to what I was doing.
You, women & mones are never a simple pat formula. Your persona, body chemistry and mone mix involve too many variables to reduce it to a single tenet. In my case, the mones I wear do help attract alpha females. The lessor ones flee or become extremely shy or nervous. I don’t find most alpha females a good fit as they tend to be extremely high maintenance, and I need to live my life and actually accomplish something besides chasing my woman around.
Let them know that you haven’t decided you know them well enough to talk too in depth about certain personal things. Or better yet, flip it and start grilling them even before they have a chance to ask you, get them on the defensive side of that and you sit back as the one who judges if her answers are satisfactory. Or start judging them by the questions they ask. Let them ask a couple and kinda look at them quizzically and mumble the word “interesting” almost to yourself. When they ask you to explain tell them that you’ve found that the questions a person asks and in what order they ask them in, can be as telling as to the person being asked as the answers can be to the asker.
Then prepare to spend the rest of the night avoiding the question about what they’re questions tell you about them lol.
LMFAO! You guys made me remember how bad I used to fall prey to shit tests years ago. I specifically remember standing there like a moron trying to qualify in vain. And the whole time I thought I actually had a chance. LOL.
The Alpha females I attract to are usually taken. They are the sorts that are independant enough to spend time with their friends, work late, or just not bug the f*ck outta their mate 24/7. The only thing worse than a girl that can’t not be in charge of everything is the bitch ass guy that follows her around.
I know what you’re saying Radman. If a girl starts grilling me (which is rare anymore) I dismiss her with extreme prejudice. She’s probably a self-centered bitch anyway and I’m wasting my time. I have a lot of Alpha qualities and girls approach more with caution or respect.
Some of you guys practice the pickup arts. Just out of curiosity how well does that material work with Alpha females?
I am a alpha female and let me make this clear. If you try to qualify you already lost so dont. The actual questions are not the test. You trying to qualify is.
Its normal when you first meet people for them to ask questions. Every question is not a “shit test”. When those questions start seeming like a interview and becoming intimate the test has begun. If you ignore or flip the subject with a snappy little neg we see weakness. If you try to qualify by answering the question we see weakness. If your straight forward and just say something like" I prefer to talk intimate when in a more intimate setting" then grin and give them a wink then show lack of interest in whether they like it or not… you got them. I dont mean ignore I mean lack of interest which is totally different. It shows you know what they are up to and your not weak. Try to look confident amused and not overly interested.
Keep in mind that while you are aware of which females are the alphas and the betas so are the women. The beta women usually get there cues from the alpha women. Even if you dont end up with the alpha if she showed interest the betas are going to swarm in on you.
Alpha women are affected by pheromones they just have better control of their impulses and emotions. Guys who avoid amuse me. Guys who neg or try to flip on me amuse me. Guys who try to prove that they are of higher value then me only prove they are not. If they were they wouldn’t have to try to prove it. Guys who dont play and are straight forward are alpha males and peak my interest.
Oh and every alpha female is not a self absorbed bitch any more then a alpha male is a overbearing asshole. Those are Beta qualities not alpha qualities. Alphas know what they want and how to get it .
If you are making out and suddenly you get asked about whether you did something with other women’s breasts, I took it as a shit test…I just ignored and went on …
Yeah, I’m with RADMAN, I mean if it’s too early to disclose certain things about my life, then it’s just rude and frankly annoying of a HUMAN male or female to keep asking a question If I tell them it’s too soon or I don’t know you well enough, I don’t care if you’re an Alpha, Beta Zeta…whatever…And if she’s an ALPHA and thinks that gives her the right to keep bugging me she lost her chance, I’d be off to greener pastures.
Would be nice to find one that can compliment your efforts in accomplishing something. I don’t belive all of them would have you chase them, I would think a true alpha would be balanced and wouldn’t need constant validation like that… I’m more inclined to think the need for validation is another issue, and the dominant nature of these girls are mistaken to be alpha but really just covering up insecurities. If your just running into these types of girls you haven’t found a true alpha yet…
It means she knows what she wants but is not 100% confident she will have it. Else she would not be in such a hurry.
It is possible to have high standards, yet be more graceful, more gentle about them. A woman who is patient and shows the grace to talk with a man and let the answers come naturally.
Note that it would be perfectly normal to just one of these questions early in the conversation, but all of them within a few minutes is a bit much.
I think this is the best piece of advice to when “Alpha Girls” are grilling you BUT keep it cute/friendly. You want to tease them but not offend them. You don’t want to come off too much like a dick head.
Many times these women want to know you have your shit together - last thing they want is some broke ass mooching off them.
Nothing personal on their part just have fun with it.
I’m normally attracted to female artists and musicians and they tend to be lone wolf types, sorta a dysfunctional alpha. The intensity of their expression and originality of their art give me major wood. insecurities make for great artist inspiration so it’s a good thing if not completely out of control. On the other hand, high maintenance women tend to be highly socialized and shit artists as they’re too busy proving themselves and networking.
