OMG Am I an Alpha Male and never knew about it?

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Since I’m a newbie in all stuff I’ve been reading a lot in the last 2 o 3 days and while searching for an Alpha Male description I find it quite like the kind of person I’m…
My friends ask me for advise and when we’re together, even with strangers, generally I’m the one to decide what to do… I sometimes in life have had discussions with other people that I know can consider as being other Alpha Males… I’m outgoing, say the things I usually want to say, defend my opinion and things like that. I even was the teamleader in my CS team =P, the best there ever was in Bahia Blanca! xD

BUT, I usually screw things up when I’m alone with women because maybe I’m thinking too much about what things to say or do… so, can it be possible that lack of self-confidence around women have been dragging me down somehow?.. or some other things, maybe I’m some kind of screwed up alpha male or maybe I’m dellusional from reading too much =X
I can start conversations with girls but after a while all hell breaks loose and my head is some kind of smashed potato, AHAHAHAHA… I don’t know…

Anyway, I would like to know your opinions, since you’re all so friendly and open… and far far away =P

PD: be nice =X ^_^, don’t harm my recently found alpha male confidence(?)… LOL

PabLo.
Another post about me! =P

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Now that I read this again I don’t think I posted it in the right part of the forum… it says nothing about pheromones and a lot of people will think I’m an idiot… LOL xD… that’s definitley some alpha male vibe going around here xD

PabLo.
Sorry people! Move it if you want, but laugh while doing it! =P

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folow the abc rule(always be closing)!!!
when i am sarging I allways try to close the set. now matter what

I always leave the set at a high note. when the girls are laughing usualy after a well canned rutine…just get their phone number to the girl do not give her yours. I usualy deliver a 10 minnuttes of canned material of rutines and then get the phone number and walk away.

after that i tel my target that I am gonna call her the next day, but i call her 2-3 days after.

if you got a low confidense i recomend u to start with nlp.

in my opinion alfa is a person who do not care about what other people think of him.

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By definition, and in simplest terms, an alpha male is a leader. People naturally follow him and, amazingly, he may be as lost as them! I see “alpha” personalities in my classes all the time and they lead their classmates off cliffs in class projects all the time.

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I think that for being alpha u have to love being in charge and commanding others around you.I personally don’t know if I am alpha but thinking about my behaviour, well I get alot of complains that I am too dictatorial with people.Maybe this is not the bright alpha leader in me but the dark alpha dictator but in my opinion that is what alpha is- scaring the sh*t out of people , diving direct orders and who doesn’t follow gets severly punnished, being fanatic about ones ideals and ideas and making others to understand them and respect them…
In one word Attila like alpha is what I like and thus that is what I think alpha is.Afcourse u don’t have to be rude to people but always have to be able to use some force (not always phisical) as to put people to their places if they disobey, and to say something encouradging when they obey.

Afcourse there is always the bright alpha fatherly type witch is also good but I don’t feel comfortably that way and prefer the dark severe and respectful alpha.

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The beauty about the power of women is that we can mess up your mind. Alpha men do get into trouble with women, because they are too rough, bossy, etc. They usually don’t know handle hurt/bothered people because beta men usually just take it without complaint.

Women however, complain about everything. That’s where the problem starts. Society has conditioned men to not complain else he appears like a woman (probably for good reason). So the alpha man gets use to other men not complaining when he makes a request, yet this other species (women) get angry, cry, yell, hang up the phone when we get pushed around.

That just says women are more honest about how we feel about you, and your beta butt-kissers are too stupid or scared to stand up to you. This is why beta men will usually gather in groups to attack a woman, because they’re wimps. Where as a Alpha man always thinks he can walk into the war zone alone against these seemingly fragile hurt creatures. What he doesn’t know is his strength does not compare to the psychological warfare thats about ready to be unleashed on him. Yes, we confuse you on purpose, only to dominate you. And if you gang up on one of us your a wimp, so what’s it gonna be?

Hard battle to win. We thought of everything.

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Everyone has alpha features and aspects to them, the one with the strongest frame generally is the leader and is more dominant among his peers, he may not be the one who talks the most or always decides what happens, but when he speaks the entire group reacts to it strongly. He shows he does not like something and the group will not react favorably to it.

I also tend to take the position of the leader,
I rarely decide what to do mostly out of laziness, and I only talk when I feel like it, but in my group when I want something I generally get it, and when I decide to go somewhere, it generally happens unless there is a specific reason that prevents it from being so.

So, from the looks of it you lead your group of friends, but you should also note that a leader does not always remain just as he is, he sets certain boundaries that the group submits to, but when a member of the group disobeys that boundary they challenge you for the leadership, the leader must act to reaffirm the boundary and if he fails, the member becomes the new leader of the group even if only temporarily

often times if you are just naturally the leader, someone may try to take charge for a moment and they may succeed but once they get what they want it generally falls back into place where you are the leader simply because they return to their normal behavior

generally your success rate at blocking these challenges and how often you get compliance from other people (or request it) is a good indicator of how alpha you are acting, its sometimes good to occasionally pay attention to how much you are acting to avoid being a dick or controlling person

also, when dealing with women you should treat them a little bit more like a friend and don’t build them up within your mind as the only one or as the most important
When you don’t place them way above you or think of them as more important then yourself you tend to act more like yourself and get more compliance out of them in your interactions

A better way to approach the whole thing is under the impression that all women are attracted to you, it just depends on how much (which determines how much interaction you can have with them)

So you don’t have to worry if they like you or not, they already do
just assume they already like you and you will most likely act more attractive because your not trying to impress them and you won’t be nervous
use eye contact when you talking, break it only when talking about something negative or when they say or talk about something negative. You can also break it when she breaks eye contact

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Gegogi makes a great point. Being a leader, or alpha, does not imply that you lead in a good direction or that you know where you are going. I think that there are such things as born leaders. I also think that if a born leader doesn’t hone his/her skills that they will never be good leaders. If a person without the innate personality of a leader decides he/she wants to be a leader I think they can learn it. Yes perfecT you could be an alpha male and not know it. You could also learn to be one if you want. It’s really not that hard since many people will follow damn near anything that’s in front of them.

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I don’t like the feminist attitude here 'cause I think that women and men are equal and neighter man nor women should think that their better or something.That’s just big Bsht that hurted women and men invent to justify their ego and such an attitude is totally unnatural and unwanted by nature.I’ve heard man to say that “women are bitches and shgould be misstreated” and I’ve heard alot of “men are pigs who should be despised” too.I think that people who can think that way regardless of sex are people with verry serious mental issues and should seek help from professional **psihgologist.**I hope that what u tryed to make point here is not one of the femninist/masculinist thesis 'cause it will be dissapointing to know that u really think such unnatural and delusional stuff.

Yes women and men are different but who’s who and **who can play psihological nasty games is a matter of personality , not a matter of sexes.**I 've seen both males and females who can mess with the opposite sex’s consciousness and I don’t think this is what normal people do.If a person , regardless female or male, wants to have a normal relationship he/she should be honsest and respectfull to the other member.If not sooner or later the lies would be discovered and his/hers weapon will turn to it’s user.

There is nothing wrong to present yourself like more desirable, to act alittle but that is the salt and the pepper in male-female relationships.BUT thinking that males or females should be dominant or crap like that it sick and twisted in my opinion.:angry:

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All people are equally valuable, but all people are not made equal, thats the joy of evolution. We are each good at different things, each one of us is a slightly different way to go at life. Each way holds value equal to another, but some will naturally just be better in areas then others

this does not mean the others are inferior it simply means that they are not as good in that particular area

as for men and women with the whole domination thing…
men like to lead naturally and women like to follow naturally, its not about domination and all of that, its just how interactions have been taking place for thousands of years, the more masculine gender leads with more aggression and the other is more submissive and follows

its not about one being better then the other, its just that most women prefer to follow and be submissive in certain areas/ways. some more then others

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Well GoldenForest my post on this was an answer on something I red and totally disagreed with (I think that such an attitude regardless from women to men or from men to women is useless, stupid and verry insulting not only to the opposite sex but to all human beings, all homosapiens), but I won’t continue writing on that topic 'cause the thread is about something else.

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So that’s the stereotype, but I guess you haven’t been around Philippine nurses! Talk about bossy women! Anywho I observe student lead projects every semester and, more often than not, women take on the leadership roles more often than men. Chinese and Philippine women are extremely bossy, and most guys just take it. My university administrators are about 60% female so my guess is roles are changing and fast. The writing is on the wall in graduation stats: female undergrad and graduate students far out pace their male counterparts. And we all know the leadership roles in industry and government will mainly go to the most qualified applicants. Those without degrees won’t even be considered.

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OMG I love this forum… I made what I thought was a silly post (after post it) and all of you came and give a lot of useful information to me!.. I won’ take offense from what Sugarspice told, I think she wanted to be funny… not because I don’t think women can do things to us, I know some can =)… but certainly not everyone out there.
Casanova your input too was greatly appreciated and feel free to talk about what you want, I like to read the exchange of opinions… even if it wasn’t something that had to do with the original post ^_^.
Gegogi that’s interesting, where do you live? I’m curious =)

PabLo.

Edit: Nevermind, I read Mokuleia Beach… is that Hawaii? That’s what google told me =P… must be nice around there, big waves? ^_^… nice girls?.. lots of pheromones? xD

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Hahaha.. Cassinova, lay off the -none. Yes, I was trying to be funny. By the way men and women are equal in some respect, but not the main one, namely we are NOT biologically equal. Men in general, are physically stronger. They have more energy, more muscle mass, they don’t lose a gallon of blood every month. They don’t have to tear their skin to give birth to a little mini you. They just cum, and go. And then, some have the nerve to put the work on the woman to keep them happy as an excuse to why he should have the right to be unfaithful.

If you think about it, to balance out the physical inequalities, yah, it’s natural a woman’s gonna demand a little R.E.S.P.E.C.T. And if she has to mess with your brain, with round about logic, then yah, she’s gonna do it.

Besides, if a household is “dominated/controlled/managed” by a woman, the chances of it staying together is much higher that giving the control to a biologically-programmed-to-philander man.

Without sounding like a feminist, if a woman wants to control…let her, she will do far less damage, than the average man would. In history, women control and nurture, men control and destroy (families, countries, etc)… YES, to be fair, that is a generalization. I don’t feel like running out in the street to do a statistical analysis to prove a point. But you get my drift.

In other words… “Vote for Hilary” Hahaha… JK

PS Sorry if I’ve offended any beta men in the making of the previous post…LOL

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Both History and the World are full a “lost” alphas. So are jails.:open_mouth: Don’t be a lost leader.

Renny is right. Even if you are not the natural leader you CAN learn to be a good one. Just remember - unlike these 'none fueled lunkheads you bump into who think they are leaders or “alphas” - if you are going to be a leader it is incumbant upon you to learn to be a GOOD leader. You don’t even necessarily need to be a strong alpha to be a leader. Even a weak alpha or strong beta can learn to be a good leader. What you will need are things like vision, competance, courage, candor, etc..

So true, So true.

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Yea, thats what I was saying its about preference. Women who want to lead or be in leadership positions are able to and those that wish to simply get married and live at home can
Just as men who want to lead and take charge can, but those who choose to be a stay at home dad, or those who want to take a submissive role towards women can as well
Just generally the majority of my interactions have shown that most women like the man to lead, there are those that take charge, and they are my favorite kind of girls, but most women want the man to lead for some reason

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It seems that the males of those races tend to have a low to non-existent 'none signature I wonder if that makes them more submissive?

In a group everyone kind of establishes themselves into a hierarchy of respect with certain people being more popular and having more influence over the other members, these are the more dominant members of the group and they tend to be the leaders, with one almost always being on top unless two or more are competing for the spot.

and generally if the man is willing to lead the women will follow
but people seem to misunderstand follow and submit, they aren’t extremes at all, if a member of the group suddenly says LETS GO BOWLING! and you say ok, you are following their lead, they are leading you to go bowling and you are submitting to it, perhaps its because you too want to go bowling but it was their influence that presented the option to you, they were leading
This is what I mean by submission and dominance, the terms are much more lightly taken to me unless context dictates otherwise
Often if there is a leader in the group, he will decide his opinion and either agree and second the motion, or disagree and present what he thinks the group should do
and generally the leader will be the one that the idea is presented to unless its presented to the whole group (or everyone in the group that is there at the time) because he is the one that people want to persuade because he will do all the work of leading the group to the activity if he wants to do it

The leader is the one with the most influence over what the group does and is generally someone who others in the group would seek advice from unless another member is an expert in the area

but also, I said most of the women that I see and interact with seem to be more submissive, the prefer the male to lead, usually because they probably want to see if he will be fun to hang out with and such, but that is still a submissive frame, you let another person decide what to do

there are tons that take charge, my sister is one such person that is a female who is very much in control of everyone around her

She generally very submissive towards her bf and lets him decide what to do and so on, but when she wants something she takes over and gets what she wants, which is what I am saying, women are submissive in certain areas and not in others, usually in a relationship they like to be submissive and follow the lead of the male
but if a male comes up to her and is very submissive she will probably take charge and lead him around but would most likely not be attracted to him very much if at all

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Ok… anyways, third attempt to make a clarification of my previous post, you seem to be thinking of my terms in extremes, to submit and follow is not something big
If someone were to say, I want to go bowling, and you say ok, you are submitting to his lead and following it, you may or may not have come up with the idea to go bowling, but he made an attempt to lead the group to something and you submit to that rule

Women are submissive towards men in certain areas but not others, mainly they are submissive in relationships because they are more attracted to the man when he is leading then when they are, to offer a reason as to why this may be, I state about the general observation that the most dominant person will generally lead, and testosterone is a hormone that promotes aggression and being more dominant, so perhaps that is why women like to be led in relationships, because that is just how it was for so long

My sister is a very assertive person who is in charge of all those around her, she rarely has to lift a finger herself but she does so simply not to be lazy, but towards her boyfriend she rarely takes charge and acts very submissive towards him and what he wants to do unless she wants something in which case she will take the lead and force others to follow including her bf

In relationships the women generally seem to just want the men to take charge

and in terms of the women being administrative in the schools, this also fits what I was saying, women choose to be assertive just as many men are choosing to be more submissive nowadays
the only problem is that a submissive man is very nice and loyal, but not too attractive and usually results in few relationships with women in their lives
just as a dominating women can be nice and useful just as much if not more so then a man, but is generally not as attractive and doesn’t get as many men

I always forget about context, it requires more explanation and its tiresome, lol
also, as men get older they lose their levels and become more submissive as well usually

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As I mentioned earlier, you need to date a Filipina nurse. She’ll take charge of you and then some…

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right! thats what i forgot to talk about!
I have a great curiosity about the 'none signature of asian and Filipina, aren’t the male signatures of 'none for them very low or non-existent?

Because if so, that may be why they take charge more, women have testosterone levels as well which may very well give them some degree of a 'none sig or make them more aggressive, and if the males are all submitting of course the women will take charge! the most aggressive or dominant people in the group will always become the leaders!

and then if a child grows up in that home, they will generally become more aggressive if they are the daughter and more submissive if they are male because of the way they will see women and men interacting from birth