This may seem strange, but I always get the feeling that I never have enough on. Maybe it’s because I’m using my stuff stand alone right now and most of you guys have pretty elaborate mixes of 3 or 4 or even more products with a couple sprays of each at the same time. I’ve been using instant shine alone for the passed few days, I’ll shower, spray my neck, hair, and forearms, one spray each. Get my clothes on, drive to my destination and by that point I already fee like, there’s no way that 3 sprays can compete with all the scents and stuff going on at either school or a grocery store or outdoors. I’ll usually spray refresher to my neck before I get out of the car making it about 4 sprays total within the first hour of application. I have also read that instant shine is a TAA product and seems to lose effects quicker than the rest, within 2-3 hours actually. It makes me feel like I need to keep doing refresher sprays every few hours for anyone to get a scent of this stuff. I’m really curious as to everyone here, what is your normal dose on its own of instant shine, I feel this would really help me out as I have gone from 2 sprays all the way up to 4 in the passed few days, increasing one spray each day. Also do you reapply shine and if so how much? This would all be very useful to me. Thanks guys
Yea my thing is if I don’t smell it, then I feel the need to apply more.
Guys you don’t have to be able to smell the carrier scent, in fact if you are using it right you shouldn’t even notice the carrier (neroli usually) after 15 minutes or so. You may still smell it if you sniff the app point but it shouldn’t be something you are aware of all the time.
I would also disagree that “most of you guys have pretty elaborate mixes of 3 or 4 or even more products with a couple sprays of each at the same time.” It may seem that way from reading the forum and yes some guys do wear a lot. I think if you’ll look deeper though you’ll see that it’s usually when testing mixes or guys that have been here only a few months and are still trying to figure it out. I wore a lot of products at once in the beginning but found that simpler is better as I went along. Yes I still go overboard sometimes and usually regret it later. 
My normal app of Ishine is 2 sprays of the 2x version so four sprays of the regular. That’s whether I’m wearing anything else or not. Some guys use much less. This reminds me I need to get my Ishine out and use it more. Lately I’ve been using plain old AMMO or one of the MXs with nothing else.
Good luck and sorry for the mini rant.
If I don’t see women drooling at me, I tend to think I don’t have enough on.
3 or 4 is fine. I tend not to go over 4 but some people do especially the woman it seems. You do need to know them individually first and then decide on what base your going to use. Normally the other products in a mix are because we’re perfectionists and we’re just trying to stear a base product a certain way. bring out the best in it. Instant Shine is hard to see effects on it’s own. I would never personally use it as a base but as an addition to other prodcuts it’s great.
I’ve been wearing a single product each day for the last month…
The thing is…how much do you spray of each and do you reapply etc.
Spray as much as you need in order to see results (your sweet spot,) and then reapply according to how long the products last (like for example AMMO and the like supposedly last about 4 to 6 hours.) So reapply according to the lasting time frame of your product, but if it’s a product with -none like TUTH and AMMO then I would try to carry a bit of Witch Hazel with me and a cotton ball in order to rub off the first sprays of -none residue as to avoid possible OD effects.
Although supposedly sprays last about 4 to 6 hours, you may think to yourself “why would I have to rub it off with Witch Hazel if the effects only last for 4 to 6 hours?” Well, -none is a funny molecule, and really some of the effects from -none actually go up to the next day although not as strong as when first applied and can build up if not rubbed off correctly. However, this is OK with social molecules/products (reapplication without worry.)
Are you just getting this feeling with Ishine or all the products you have used ?
Are you seeing hits ? If not you can use more of the socials without going over but ti has nothing to do with whether you smell it or not.
People so layer a awful like and to me its just wasteful and overkill. Some of the products they are layering have the same molecules in them. I get good results with using 1 to 4 products at a time. More then that and most people do into sensory overload. Much like verbal communication. To much noise and people cant hear your message. To many mones and people process the signal
You gotta try for balance
Tisha
I find I get best results from using only 1 or two products cause I happen to be fairly scent-sensitive. If a mix can die down enough where I can’t smell it, I actually feel more comfortable with myself and I can more easily just ignore the fact that I’m wearing pheros and be myself. I tend to get the best results this way cause I’m not worrying or over analyzing.
If the smell keeps on coming back into my field-of-scent I tend to freak out and worry if it’s bothering others. I don’t have the greatest sense of smell, and I never used to be a “colgne” guy, so I totally flip out when I get subjected non-stop smells.
Facko sort of a rule of thumb is to reapply half of your primary dose after 4 to 6 hours. Say you put on 4 sprays of Ishine right before work at 7am you could reapply 2 sprays at noon. I think of it as a half life type of thing with Ishine and IO having a half life of maybe 4 hours and most of the other alcohol based having a half life of 6 hours. Maybe 8 hours for TUTH and the oil based products. You may find down the road that you don’t reapply very often at all.
The posts on the forum may present a biased view of what people are doing.
Once a user has a bit of experience they usually stop reporting on things like stand-alone ammo, or ishine. They and most of the other older users here know what those things do. So they may be still using stand alone commercial products and just not reporting on them because it would be boring after the 30th time. The well-known product becomes a tool rather than a novelty to post about.