Nice to see some fellow mones users here. I’ve used mones from the other forum Owns quite a collection & A314 as well.
This blue bottle gives me a buzz unlike any other. I do sweat a bit more when I first tried it (it’s tapered off now). The best confidence lifter I’ve tried. Makes me walk faster, like I’m on a mission… Most importantly, A314 changes my voice when I speak. I am able to speak with richer tones & depth, people do listen more attentively but it’s just weird. (Can this be made permanent?) My SO was asking me why I’m changing my voice every other day. (It wasn’t voluntary.)
I’m quite still confused by the range of products here. Maybe the vets here could help me out. My profile : CEE, lone-wolf (WAGG does me a big favor). So, I’m not too fancy with -none (max. 1 dab NPA/w), A314 (max. 1 drop) before I start to OD. Had good results with SoE/m, Pheromol Factor. Chikara makes me & others argue, A-1 makes me depressed. Please shortlist the names of products here that is suitable for me. Much thanks.
P.S: The last time I was here, members were trying to poll people interested in Estratetraenol. Is this product offered here?
I think if you already have A314..IS and IO would compliment it very well. IO works way better than SOE did for me. IS makes you and others around you feel good instantly, boosts your confidense, and drops physical boundaries(women and others will invade your space much more often).
IO is primarily Anol. It’s a great ice breaker, initiates conversations, and lightens the atmosphere a little. definitely works better than SOE ever did for me.
IFM does what a1 does, but with out the depression effects. at worst it makes you more mellow and kind of zoned out for an hour or two if you get it near your face. It very valuable though to use around women on dates or PMS time. It makes them relaxed, excited at 4-5 sprays, they put up with a lot more crap and don’t get mad near as easily.
Those are some good products to start off with. When your ready to use some Androstenone..I’d go with the Experimone line’s 2.5mcg/spray since you say you have a low tolerance to Anone and others around you when wearing it.
Cloud9, thanks for your reply. I’m going to read a bit more before I place an order. Is there a combo that enriches/mimics the effects of WAGG? That gives the impression of a productive/contributing worker?
Is there a discount coupon thingy here as well? Thanks.
TAK is probably the least pheromone like of all the Androtics experimones… I wouldn’t use it as a communication inducer. TAK is almost like an anesthetic, one might use it in small quantities to add a calmative note… for straight up connection feelings nothing beats and mix of alpha and beta nol… should you want to make it warmer, less threatening still, then add some TAC. TAC is warm and inviting, where TAK is somewhat indifferent…early rumors about P74 suggest it would be a good add-in as well.
Honestly WAGG i believe is meant to reduce the lone wolf syndrome and reduce the unstable alpha male aura.
I think A314 helps do a good job of that. It buffers Anone and makes you seem like a leader of high status. A314 also helps with Trust and Respect, which would help keep people from being afraid of you or avoiding you like the plague.
My favorite current combonation for any time or everyday use is A314, IO, and IS.
IFM, TUTH, IH, etc. can be supplemented in the mix for different occasions, settings, and if you trying to achieve a particular effect.
Hello to all Thanks for the welcome. Sure is nice to see old friends here
Hi IP! Yeah I am i2wisdom from XT forums. How’s the KA CD? I only use it sparingly nowadays Been hooked on LSC Paraliminals for a while now. Best game IMO is the New Behaviour Generator CD!
Other products I own but use very little or none at all
Chikara (argue too much), A-1 (depression), NPA/w (intimidates other men or young women)
From my limited reading at this forum so far,
IS, IO, IH, IFM will complement well what I need while
Estratetraenol will help balance my A-1 depression
Is there some sort of product table that describes the scope of effects each product gives? (I’m looking for something to enrich/replace the -mones I use) It’s easier to understand & search for products this way.
BTW, I have no clue about the Experimones T1-T6? Anyone care to elaborate? Thanks.
I did OD once with A314 (2 drops), it gave me a wide personal space at the coffee house People at S.E. Asia don’t react well to heavy -none/-rone users (lack of exposure, I guess).
Is there a product to “round-off” the edges of -none? Other than using smaller dosages? Thanks.
That what T1-6 are trying to acheive.
They are tweaked nones,ie.to say nones without the negative side.However it is still in its test stage.
Btw just curious but whats LSC Paraliminals and KA CD and New Behaviour Generator CD?Some sort of sublimal music?
Those are subliminal & paraliminal CDs designed for different objectives. I bought them for self-improvement purposes. Quite effective though. But you have to understand it’s “polished hypnosis” & does require occasional/repeated listening (depends on what you’re working on, anchoring reduces listening). I could PM the link if you’re interested (don’t want to be zapped by mods like in LS)
I could not find the T1-T6 in the store. Any links? Thanks.
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Personally, I find the Paraliminals easier to use. Just read the CD booklet (it describes & prompts the scope, objectives & questions), state a purpose & put on the headphones (speakers work, but not too effective). Lie down & sleep. I got good results using Self-Esteem, Memory Supercharger, Smoke-Free & NBG. The results are subtle, but it’s there (noticed in hindsight). 1 month refund policy.
Free Subliminals Reco to download Deep Ultra Mind 2 (for confidence). I did not try the others. Their main product lines have a 6 month refund policy, it does work better than paraliminals but require visualizations while listening, which some people are not used to. Best to try paraliminals if visualizing is not your forte. Results are subtle most of the time, but it does grip you if you are aware of it happening.
Headphones are required for these audio tracks (any mid-range headphones, reco Sennheiser). Equalizer settings on audio player must be turned OFF. Volume is minimal (set to lowest you can hear/barely audible, works best this way).
Paraliminals & subliminals are a form of hypnosis+NLP, which uses binaural frequencies to drive the message through. The binaural frequencies puts a “trance” in the listener, where the brain/sub-conscious are most receptive. Most audio tracks puts you to alpha brain state. (I start to see colorful blimps in this state).
These 2 sites were recommended by the veterans I knew, who had a large collection of these category of CDs. Some are scammers but these 2 I kept & did not refund.
Does anyone have any recommendations of voice training products? Thanks.
Even with WAGG, I still have to initiate convo but the conversation was fun-going, less seriousness overall. Around 4-5 individuals joined in, ended with a few shoulder taps on me. This is totally unlike A314 by itself.
I’m going to reduce WAGG to 1 drop & see how this combo goes.
I’m ready to order but I’d like to seek the opinion of fellow members here first. Based on the collective posts, I’ve gathered some info on the products.
My objectives
enrich further those products which worked well for me
harmonize & tweak those products which didn’t work well previously
pheromone usage oriented towards business (at work) & studies (at home)
working cohesively with other males is top priority
self-assuring confidence, self-calming effects, focused consciousness for studying
female attraction is not a priority
Products I own :
Works well :
A314 (good @ 1 drop, gains respect & trust, higher dosages will result OD)
WAGG (good @ 1-2 drop, gives impression of dedicated employee)
Pheromol Factor for Men (good @ 3 spritzs, makes everything light & easy)
SoE/u (good @ 8 inches, conversation free & easy, makes me sleepy though)
Works NOT too well :
Chikara (OD @ 1 spray, makes me & others argue, lost a friend, good for attraction though)
NPA/w (OD @ 1 dab, intimidates male & females at work)
A-1 (depression @ 1 dab, mulls over past failures, good for attraction though)
Products I would like to buy
Instant Shine (for self-confidence & fun vibes, relieves my serious attitude)
You have a314 which is the first thing I would buy, the rest would be Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty and Instant Female Magic. IFM really is good and MHarris has mitigated the downer aspects of A-1.
Wow you are sensitive if 1 spray of Chikara can do an OD like that… Whew. My Pheromol Factor was in a plain old pour out bottle. Did you transfer it to an atomizer for the “spritzes?” I haven’t used it much but the scent is kinda nice.
As for this:
I pretty much agree. But I would certainly get the “regular strength” versions of all, as IH may get people a little “too” honest from what I hear. I know even one spray of IO and I can’t get some people to shut up…
If dealing with women in any way is not on the list you could probably skip the IFM. It apparently is a much improved incarnation of A-1 and seems to lack the amount of “depressive” effects attributed to A-1, but if you are in an all-male type environment, why? If you have to deal with moody women at times though it could be helpful on those occasions.
tacitus seems to be the best reference on the experimones like TAC etc.
Thanks for the replies. I use PF/m as it is, by gently tapping the bottom of the bottle when it’s upside down. I will try to “uncap” Chikara & dilute the contents, the spray is too inconsistent for accurate dosage, I need better control with “tension mones”.
I have place an order for the mentioned products, at default concentrations, except IS (double strength). Also trying experimones @ 2.5/5/10 mcg, just to get a feel at the optimum dosage. I bought A-1 & androstenone at 2.5mcg as well. The people I deal with don’t require large doses to see how pheromones affects them (myself included). Lower OD threshold, so to speak.
BTW, does anyone have ideas to get half-a-drop consistently from A314? Thanks.
Owns quite a collection & A314 as well.
Most importantly, A314 changes my voice when I speak. I am able to speak with richer tones & depth, people do listen more attentively but it’s just weird. (Can this be made permanent?) My SO was asking me why I’m changing my voice every other day. (It wasn’t voluntary.)