Official MX414 discussion thread, men: UF2 pack diffusion test reports

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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Mine came in today and were waiting for me tonight when I got home. Just did a quick self-test with MX414. Sprayed 1 spray, plus partial primer spray on to the back of my hand. Sniffed and got a little head rush. Interesting. Very, very light, generic “clean” scent.

2 minutes later, completely scentless. Wow!

10 minutes later, there’s the -none. lol. I’ve always been able to smell it. In this instance, it’s really close to my skin. This mix is perfect for covering, as any medium-strength or better cologne would completely wipe out that -none smell. I know the test is to be done with no additional fragrances, so further testing under those conditions will be done.

EDIT- By the way, thanks for the freebie 2x togo of IH! I love this stuff!

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MX414 I noticed has that initial smell, then it goes away and after a certain amount of time it comes back. I haven’t been able to smell that on MX415. With MX415 I spray it on, it has a light smell, then the smell goes away, but I don’t smell it again like MX414.

I’m kind of on the fence about mones without smell. I guess I’m not used to it, but I sort of rely on the smell to remind me I have mones on. (kind of a crutch) With MX415 it feels as if I don’t have anything on even though I put 3 sprays on me. Stelath Diffusion is a great idea and concept, it just might take me a little bit to get used to it.

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I agree. The only thing I’ll miss though is what I call the victory line. “You smell good” Everyone has heard those lines and that pretty much meant you won.

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This is the point of stealth diffusion technology. Its supposed to dry and blend in with smells you generally don’t notice consciously after awhile - baby powder, soap, laundry, etc.

We want to know that once it “dries down” if you continue to notice effects as if it were a cologne strength product such as Ammo. (Which so far, most have.)

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(From the Project UF2 Official reporting thread in the main Men’s Forum)

Day 1 official test.

Product: MX414

Application: 3 sprays, 1 shared between wrists, one split between sides of the neck, and 1 squarely on the nape of my neck.

Environment: Work, a largish room with an open area and strictly climate controlled to be 72-75 degrees and 45-48% humidity.

Cover: None.

Possible mitigating factor: Light application of men’s deodorant. I’m too paranoid to go deodorant free, so this one’s non-negotiable. It’s a light fragrance and can only be smelled if I’m really hot and have my arms raised.

Effects: All self-effects. Didn’t notice anything standing out among my co-workers, however, I was one cocky son of a bitch. Cocky, and not suffering fools well. I’m good at my job and usually let my results speak for me, but today, I just wouldn’t shut up about how much of a badass I am at my job. If I was on the outside looking in, I’d point to myself and say “There goes one arrogant fucking bastard right there.”

I can think of a few places where this MX would rock, but I don’t think work is one of them. Perhaps if I reduce dosage by a spray? Hmm… this bears further experimentation.

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**Date: August 23-25th 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    2S MX414

2. Purpose of Application
MX414 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Felt more awake

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive in an attractive way.

5. Location
Campus

6. Environment
Air conditioned, lecture room style.

7. People’s Reaction
Will not be reporting much on effects, next few reports will be on the diffusion.

Over the past few days, focused a lot of attention on the small details of people’s reaction to this mix based on range.

I felt that people could whiff the scent of the range within a radius of 3 meters.

And girls really initiate kino a lot more often when I go nearer.

Within a 1 meter radius, one of them squeezed my biceps when we were discussing about fitness and health.

Bosses seemed to stopped by more often, honestly I could not be bothered about the ranking system, because I don’t exactly have a barrier unlike all my other junior staff, so I guess that sort of amplified when I used this mix.

I noticed that within an approximate range of 3-4 meters, people tend to linger around longer than they should for no apparent reason. Very prevalent with females especially.

In terms of how long this mix lasts, it really hits them still pretty hard approximately 6-8 hours. When I wore this the first time, I didn’t refresh and could still see the effects 10 hours later.

One thing I would like to note would be the fact that this mix is really scentless. In doing so, I could REALLY concentrate not so much as the scent, but rather, the effects of the mones.

Many people have reviewed that there’s some problems in terms of wondering whether or not they are wearing anything, but I see that it just takes care of the placebo effects.

I am really able to concentrate more in terms of the social happenings during daily conversations.

People tend to get extremely hooked onto you within the first 3 minutes of conversation and guys respect you with females attached to you.

8. Summary
Range
Best Effects - 1 Meter
Maximum Effective Range - 3 Meters
Subtle Effects - 4 Meters

Time Schedule on Effects
1st 5 minutes - People are hooked
15 Minutes - Leans in and initiate kino
30 Minutes - Very willing to give information and respect you

Effects on Males and Females
Males - Aggressive within 1-4m range
Females - Very flirty within 1M range, Hair flips within 3-4m range

Eye Contact
I only realized how many people tend not to look straight into my eyes. They feel uncomfortable when I do it.

Young girls turn bright red when I do it and even older females tend to look away, wondering what I am looking for.

While wearing this mix, felt that guys tend to avoid my gaze, even at 5m< range.

Girls however, tend to stare awhile only to blush or look away in shyness.

Although this was pretty prevalent during clubbing, this was very pronounced ONLY using this mix. So it’s interesting.

Will update again soon.

Cheers!

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From the original Project UF announcement post:

IE: We do not recommend this for work unless your workplace is supportive of heavy -none signatures.

Some people can do heavy -none signatures and get away with it - some can’t. But remember that Project UF/UF2 is a hard hitting formula.

Be careful my friend! :cool:

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Talk about Heavy -None I think i Od’d for the first time last night. Me and my bro went out to a local bar.

2 sprays MX414
2 Sprays IS (X2)

Get there and we sit down. No waitress comes by so I go to the bar to order fomr the bartender. I purposely stand right next to 2 girls who are sitting at the bar, and order me and my bro a beer. While waiting for my beer I look at the girl next to me and she gives me a smile. She then says you look like a celebrity i can’t remember his name. (I’m like WTF? is that the best line you can think of?) Anyway I play off of that stupid line, and tell her Thank you a compliment like that deserves a drink. I then Tell the bartender to give them another round of what they’re drinking. For some reason wearing MX414 gave me some sort of an attitude. Instead of trying to talk more with them I purposely walked back to my bro with this cocky attitude of “I know they’re gonna follow me” Sure enough they walked over to me and my bro and sat down.

We were having a lot of fun for about an hour talking, joking, they even hinted about the 4 of us going back to their room. I excuse myslef to go to the bathroom to refresh my IS. Being a little buzzed I accidentally grabbed the to go bottle of MX414 and sprayed it on me. I only noticed it when I was putting it back in my Altoids tin. I was like oh shit. Anyway i spray IS on me to try to cover up the MX414 and head back out. I sit back down and start to notice that the girl who was lall over me is now sitting next to me, but not all touchy like she was earlier. She became distant in her conversation. A little while later they both excused themselves to the bathrom (Why do they need to go in pairs?) When they came back they gave an excuse on how they had to leave and get up early in the morning. My bro doesn’t know I use mones so he was confused, but I had a feeling the OD just costed me some action.

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**Date: August 23-25th 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    2S MX414

2. Purpose of Application
MX414 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Felt more awake

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive in an attractive way.

5. Location
Campus

6. Environment
Air conditioned, lecture room style.

7. People’s Reaction
Will not be reporting much on effects, next few reports will be on the diffusion.

Over the past few days, focused a lot of attention on the small details of people’s reaction to this mix based on range.

I felt that people could whiff the scent of the range within a radius of 3 meters.

And girls really initiate kino a lot more often when I go nearer.

Within a 1 meter radius, one of them squeezed my biceps when we were discussing about fitness and health.

Bosses seemed to stopped by more often, honestly I could not be bothered about the ranking system, because I don’t exactly have a barrier unlike all my other junior staff, so I guess that sort of amplified when I used this mix.

I noticed that within an approximate range of 3-4 meters, people tend to linger around longer than they should for no apparent reason. Very prevalent with females especially.

In terms of how long this mix lasts, it really hits them still pretty hard approximately 6-8 hours. When I wore this the first time, I didn’t refresh and could still see the effects 10 hours later.

One thing I would like to note would be the fact that this mix is really scentless. In doing so, I could REALLY concentrate not so much as the scent, but rather, the effects of the mones.

Many people have reviewed that there’s some problems in terms of wondering whether or not they are wearing anything, but I see that it just takes care of the placebo effects.

I am really able to concentrate more in terms of the social happenings during daily conversations.

People tend to get extremely hooked onto you within the first 3 minutes of conversation and guys respect you with females attached to you.

8. Summary
Range
Best Effects - 1 Meter
Maximum Effective Range - 3 Meters
Subtle Effects - 4 Meters

Time Schedule on Effects
1st 5 minutes - People are hooked
15 Minutes - Leans in and initiate kino
30 Minutes - Very willing to give information and respect you

Effects on Males and Females
Males - Aggressive within 1-4m range
Females - Very flirty within 1M range, Hair flips within 3-4m range

Eye Contact
I only realized how many people tend not to look straight into my eyes. They feel uncomfortable when I do it.

Young girls turn bright red when I do it and even older females tend to look away, wondering what I am looking for.

While wearing this mix, felt that guys tend to avoid my gaze, even at 5m< range.

Girls however, tend to stare awhile only to blush or look away in shyness.

Although this was pretty prevalent during clubbing, this was very pronounced ONLY using this mix. So it’s interesting.

Will update again soon.

Cheers!

Taken From August 22-25

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To talk shit or speak good about you or whatever guy.

52

So True, It’s More Conference Room then Bath Room for Women…

53

I see it’s gonna take a while before I’m through testing these then. I can’t go around smelling like a fuck machine at work. No, Sir.

54

Same here, felt like a cocky asshole during the whole week of applying this mix.

It’s like you don’t give a shit about anything except to get it done, no excuses no bullshit.

Great for environments that are high stress and when you need to be aggressive and confident.

Social senses are RAZOR SHARP with this on.

Don’t recommend this for slow-paced environments, you will look out-of-tune.

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1.5 of 414 to the neck

Just like John described the scent: basically nothing except for a very light afterglow that kind of reminded me of febreeze or a dryer sheet.

I immediately noticed the usual self effect of 391…extreme confidence…borderline arrogance.

Got to work and I felt invincible. Temperature was mid-high 70’s. Throughout the day I could not really smell anything except for the faint smell of dryer sheet every once in a while (that’s how I’m going to describe it).

Guys at work were normal. Nothing out of the ordinary. Girls on the other hand were a lot more talkative and flirty. No examples that really stand out…just more talkative and flirty in general. These effects lasted my whole shift (about five hours).

So far I really like this stealth diffusion technology. I could never get away with 391 at work because the smell was way too strong. Now it’s almost like a secret weapon. Will definately keep testing.

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8-25-11

Quantity: Mx 414 2 sprays to the neck
Cologne cover: n/a
Environment: work
Self Effects:
Effects on Others:
Range: 6-12 feet

Hmmm today was interesting I might tone it down to one spray, every once in a while but 2 sprays is my sweet spot.

Jennifer was the biggest hit today by far. It started when she said her baby and rubbed her hand up in down my face in front of two coworkers. We went over to her area in the backroom to get a little privacy.

I started talking to her and I pull the string on her apron and she kinoed me about it. I told her I was experimenting with colognes and how my friend has me testing out this new stuff, because he works in one of the fragrance houses. She said now your messing with me I said not here I have a sample right here.

I pulled out my togo that I pulled the label off earlier so all it said was 414 on my label. I told her to give it a sniff and she told me to spray some her I did not want to waste it so I hit myself with one spray and she rubbed my arm up against her’s and smelled it.

Now we know how much better women noses are than men’s so I was testing to see how she would react to the scent. I think she loved it because she was saying it is so light, but it seems like there more to this cologne than just scent, she would not stop smelling herself.

I told her I did not want her to touch my face jokingly, and she corned me in an area and said “why did you want me to touch something else.” I saw her grin big and she turned bright red in front of me I was speechless…. Mx 414 you simply make magic happen

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Absolutely on point right there. You summed it up perfectly.

John- Hehe… I dunno. I’m the guy that dumps on NPA and Dirty on occasion before going to work and dares anyone to say anything about it. Still, there is wisdom in holding off on an unknown combo at work. You never know what might happen. I got some serious education on it yesterday, which is why I decided to wear it again today.

Day 2.

Same setup as Day 1, same environment, etc.

I knew how this mix affected me, and since I believe that pheros can be steered by behavior, I went in knowing I needed to keep myself in check. Besides, the purpose of testing UF2 is to check its diffusing properties, which means how it affects others.

The only difference between yesterday’s app and today’s was that I put it on in the parking lot at work today rather than before leaving the house. This makes a difference, as my commute is an hour one way. Sitting in my car for about 10 minutes before getting out allowed me to get pretty well basted in both the applied pheros and the bit of mist that always tends to get wasted when it’s sprayed out in the open. I could feel a little adrenaline rush and I also felt a smirk begin to take shape on my face. First test of control: Wipe that shit-eating grin off before going inside!

Check my journal for the rest of the report. I put some work-related stuff in it that I wasn’t so sure about making available to the general, non-member public. Official MX414 discussion thread, men: UF2 pack diffusion test reports - #58 by data4

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Day 2.

Same setup as Day 1, same environment, etc.

I knew how this mix affected me, and since I believe that pheros can be steered by behavior, I went in knowing I needed to keep myself in check. Besides, the purpose of testing UF2 is to check its diffusing properties, which means how it affects others.

The only difference between yesterday’s app and today’s was that I put it on in the parking lot at work today rather than before leaving the house. This makes a difference, as my commute is an hour one way. Sitting in my car for about 10 minutes before getting out allowed me to get pretty well basted in both the applied pheros and the bit of mist that always tends to get wasted when it’s sprayed out in the open. I could feel a little adrenaline rush and I also felt a smirk begin to take shape on my face. First test of control: Wipe that shit-eating grin off before going inside!

I went in, got my assignment, and started immediately. Along with doing my own project, I was tasked with helping a fairly new guy on one that was nearly identical. We would be sharing the same project table. Immediately, there was deference and respect. Some of that could have been due to status, as I’ve said before I’m kind of an answer guy. We’ve got a TON of new people working with us, so I’m constantly juggling doing my own work and helping others. I’m also an assistant Team Leader, so there’s that. Understand, I’m not saying this to try to toot my own horn or anything, just to establish that there’s a certain master/apprentice thing I’ve got going with a lot of the new people. Could the MX414 have enhanced their general behavior towards me? Absolutely, in my opinion.

There’s still that “suffer no fools” aspect in play, and I had to watch myself a couple of times. Along with our new technicians, we also have new Quality Assurance people, and one guy in particular is a complete douche. He’s one of those guys that thinks he’s making friends on the job by joking in a way that would be insulting, were it not for an already established rapport, which he doesn’t have yet. I’d like to be gracious and warm up to the guy for peace-keeping’s sake, but every interaction usually ends with me looking at another co-worker and saying, “Did you see that? Dude doesn’t even fucking know me, and he’s pulling bullshit like that.” Anyway, today, I just decided I wasn’t going to deal with him. First time he pulled his crap, I just gave him a long, cold stare until he looked away, and went back to my work. Never heard a peep from him the rest of the evening.

A couple of times, I had people ask me if I was pissed or if something was bothering me. I figured I just had my “serious” face on, because another thing about today is that I was COMPLETELY focused. My brain was working a mile a minute, hashing out what steps my body would perform 3 steps down the line. I’ll call this an effect on others by proxy of a self effect.

Anyway, to cut it short, I think I’m going to do a 180 here and say this mix is actually good for work in my case. A word of caution to others, however: Don’t let my experience alone be your determination. Get a solid grasp on how it’ll affect you, and only then decide if it would be appropriate for your work setting.

EDIT: Gonna think on this a bit more and I may add to it. There were a couple of other things that happened today, but I need to sort out if it was phero-related or not.

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Application:
Four sprays of M414 (one to wrists, one to neck, two to hair)

Results:
Last night was a blast. I went to a party with a couple of my friends and finally had a chance to test the UF2 pack in its element, as I’ve been testing it in small groups so far. I got dressed and ready and applied two sprays of MX414, one to my wrists and one to my neck. However, other matters delayed me for about an hour, so before I headed to the party, I applied two more sprays of MX414 directly to my hair. :open_mouth:

The party had been going on for a couple hours by the time I got there, so everyone had had at least a few drinks and several people were substantially drunk. When I arrived, one of my friends came out to greet me and we got into a little argument because she had tried giving me directions while drunk and in a room full of people, resulting in me walking around in the damp, hot night air for a while. However, by the end of our quarrel, she was trying to kiss me on the stairs. I told her this was great but perhaps not the most convenient place and told her I didn’t normally do this, but I was giving her a rain check for later. :wink:

Now, the party was supposed to have a small cover charge of $5, so I had my money ready. The guy taking money was chatting near the door and saw me come in. I’m fairly sure he knew I had just walked in, because he looked me up and down and made eye contact, which I returned with a look that probably said something like “Yeah? What?” He made no effort to collect my money, so I was in free. My group of friends was also near the door, so I sat on the arm of a big chair next to them and started chatting. Conversation was easy. No ghosting, and I never really felt awkward. Attention was frequently on me, and I noticed a lot of eye contact from the girls in my group. I noticed a lot of eye contact from girls in general. It seemed like every female I made eye contact with was completely locked in until I looked away. I received lots of smiles and girls seemed to enjoy moving through my personal space. Although the party was a little crowded, I never had any trouble moving from place to place. People let me pass without a problem, and tended to turn to look at me and smile as I passed.

One girl in particular seemed affected by the mix. She’s an intelligent girl majoring in English and philosophy who knows worlds about literature and music. Most of my friends are in a scientific field of study, so it’s really fun to get to talk about other things sometimes. I’ve talked to her at parties before and we tend to hit it off fairly well, but nothing overtly sexual has ever happened. This time, although nothing major happened, we did chat for much of the time I was there. Her body language was very open and she was standing very close to me and kept touching my hand. I would let my hands rest on her hips or touch her in a less than subtle manner and encountered no resistance. Now, she was definitely drunk, and I believe that played a large role, but I’ve been around her drunk plenty of times and she has never been so open or touchy.

The guys were also very friendly. Several of the guys there who went to my old high school came over and asked me how I was doing and what I’d been up to. They treated me with plenty of respect and acted as if we were good buddies even though I almost never see them around.

MX414 really added a lot to my experience and I had a good time. The girl from the party invited me to another party this Saturday, so I will be using this MX or another from the UF2 pack against soon.

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Application:
Four sprays of M414 (one to wrists, one to neck, two to hair)

Results:
Last night was a blast. I went to a party with a couple of my friends and finally had a chance to test the UF2 pack in its element, as I’ve been testing it in small groups so far. I got dressed and ready and applied two sprays of MX414, one to my wrists and one to my neck. However, other matters delayed me for about an hour, so before I headed to the party, I applied two more sprays of MX414 directly to my hair. :open_mouth:

The party had been going on for a couple hours by the time I got there, so everyone had had at least a few drinks and several people were substantially drunk. When I arrived, one of my friends came out to greet me and we got into a little argument because she had tried giving me directions while drunk and in a room full of people, resulting in me walking around in the damp, hot night air for a while. However, by the end of our quarrel, she was trying to kiss me on the stairs. I told her this was great but perhaps not the most convenient place and told her I didn’t normally do this, but I was giving her a rain check for later. :wink:

Now, the party was supposed to have a small cover charge of $5, so I had my money ready. The guy taking money was chatting near the door and saw me come in. I’m fairly sure he knew I had just walked in, because he looked me up and down and made eye contact, which I returned with a look that probably said something like “Yeah? What?” He made no effort to collect my money, so I was in free. My group of friends was also near the door, so I sat on the arm of a big chair next to them and started chatting. Conversation was easy. No ghosting, and I never really felt awkward. Attention was frequently on me, and I noticed a lot of eye contact from the girls in my group. I noticed a lot of eye contact from girls in general. It seemed like every female I made eye contact with was completely locked in until I looked away. I received lots of smiles and girls seemed to enjoy moving through my personal space. Although the party was a little crowded, I never had any trouble moving from place to place. People let me pass without a problem, and tended to turn to look at me and smile as I passed.

One girl in particular seemed affected by the mix. She’s an intelligent girl majoring in English and philosophy who knows worlds about literature and music. Most of my friends are in a scientific field of study, so it’s really fun to get to talk about other things sometimes. I’ve talked to her at parties before and we tend to hit it off fairly well, but nothing overtly sexual has ever happened. This time, although nothing major happened, we did chat for much of the time I was there. Her body language was very open and she was standing very close to me and kept touching my hand. I would let my hands rest on her hips or touch her in a less than subtle manner and encountered no resistance. Now, she was definitely drunk, and I believe that played a large role, but I’ve been around her drunk plenty of times and she has never been so open or touchy.

The guys were also very friendly. Several of the guys there who went to my old high school came over and asked me how I was doing and what I’d been up to. They treated me with plenty of respect and acted as if we were good buddies even though I almost never see them around.

I think MX414 is a quality mix, so we have at least one winner in the UF2 pack. I’ll be wearing another one soon, since the girl I was talking to at the party invited me to another one on Saturday.

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(Also posted in https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-project-uf2-response-thread-mx414-mx419/51767)

Application:
Four sprays of M414 (one to wrists, one to neck, two to hair)

Results:
Last night was a blast. I went to a party with a couple of my friends and finally had a chance to test the UF2 pack in its element, as I’ve been testing it in small groups so far. I got dressed and ready and applied two sprays of MX414, one to my wrists and one to my neck. However, other matters delayed me for about an hour, so before I headed to the party, I applied two more sprays of MX414 directly to my hair. :open_mouth:

The party had been going on for a couple hours by the time I got there, so everyone had had at least a few drinks and several people were substantially drunk. When I arrived, one of my friends came out to greet me and we got into a little argument because she had tried giving me directions while drunk and in a room full of people, resulting in me walking around in the damp, hot night air for a while. However, by the end of our quarrel, she was trying to kiss me on the stairs. I told her this was great but perhaps not the most convenient place and told her I didn’t normally do this, but I was giving her a rain check for later. :wink:

Now, the party was supposed to have a small cover charge of $5, so I had my money ready. The guy taking money was chatting near the door and saw me come in. I’m fairly sure he knew I had just walked in, because he looked me up and down and made eye contact, which I returned with a look that probably said something like “Yeah? What?” He made no effort to collect my money, so I was in free. My group of friends was also near the door, so I sat on the arm of a big chair next to them and started chatting. Conversation was easy. No ghosting, and I never really felt awkward. Attention was frequently on me, and I noticed a lot of eye contact from the girls in my group. I noticed a lot of eye contact from girls in general. It seemed like every female I made eye contact with was completely locked in until I looked away. I received lots of smiles and girls seemed to enjoy moving through my personal space. Although the party was a little crowded, I never had any trouble moving from place to place. People let me pass without a problem, and tended to turn to look at me and smile as I passed.

One girl in particular seemed affected by the mix. She’s an intelligent girl majoring in English and philosophy who knows worlds about literature and music. Most of my friends are in a scientific field of study, so it’s really fun to get to talk about other things sometimes. I’ve talked to her at parties before and we tend to hit it off fairly well, but nothing overtly sexual has ever happened. This time, although nothing major happened, we did chat for much of the time I was there. Her body language was very open and she was standing very close to me and kept touching my hand. I would let my hands rest on her hips or touch her in a less than subtle manner and encountered no resistance. Now, she was definitely drunk, and I believe that played a large role, but I’ve been around her drunk plenty of times and she has never been so open or touchy.

The guys were also very friendly. Several of the guys there who went to my old high school came over and asked me how I was doing and what I’d been up to. They treated me with plenty of respect and acted as if we were good buddies even though I almost never see them around.

MX414 really added a lot to my experience and I had a good time. The girl from the party invited me to another party this Saturday, so I will be using this MX or another from the UF2 pack against soon.