The OFFICIAL MX416 Discussion Thread

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX416?

MX416 is the part of the New UF2 Pack.

AWESOMENESS ADVISORY: THE ‘PROJECT UF EXPERIMENT’ HAS ENTERED PHASE 2!

Status: Not Currently in Production

Request MX416 here: RequestMX@androtics.com

Quote from original Release Thread August 12th, 2011]:

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

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2.5X of MX416. First time trying this pack. After about 5 minutes I could not smell anything. It literally was scentless to me after a few minutes. On the subway, I noticed the gal next to me with some major hair flipping while she was reading a book. At the bar, I was tired, didn’t have the right energy level to game, and really was just enjoying the company of my guy friends I’ve known since high school - who seemed pretty much unaffected by the mix. Also at the bar, they had some kind spin the wheel get a free drink game going on behind me. This one black guy right next to me started jumping up and down and shouting very loud - could have been the none effects on him. All in all, pretty uneventful but that was more me and the mood/energy level (been a long week at work…).

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Brought her back to my place. Went to the bathroom, sprayed on 2x mx 416 to the arms. Escalation from 0 to holy shmoly foley in 30 minutes. :wink: That is all the detail that can be described in public.

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Something you might want to try and look for is Lava soap. It’s for hand washing but it’s very very good at scrubbing clean the skin (for laborer’s hands). It should be readily available at any grocery store or auto parts supply store. It’s in a red package.

As for your tests, it sounds like you OD’ed since as we all know, the none sticks like glue. As for placebos, not likely. It’s more likely that you’re testing in the wrong environment. Based on all the successful reports from mx391 (which this is based off of), grocery stores, coffee houses and the like aren’t the best places to test it. You need to be in a more energized environment. I’d also say that it works VERY well if you’re with a woman that you have a relationship with and you want to tease her beforehand. Try bars, clubs, anything where there might be more sexual energy.

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D’oh! I got plenty of such hand cleaning products but never thought of using it on my none ridden areas like the neck. Of course, that shit will peel off the outer layer of my damn skin, so if that doesn’t rid me of the old none, nothing (short of a torch) will.

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On the bright side, I’ll be testing out MX416 the next few days, through Sunday. I wasn’t going to let MX415 beat me, but it did :frowning:

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MX416 3 sprays to the neck. Went to a Irish Rock Pub.

I always start with three sprays of a new MX, since usually I can wear three or more of most NONE products. Then I taper to two if needed or four and five.

The place was skanky and my friend was late getting there. Bartender was a bit surly and the beer was way overpriced. I mean its a hole in the wall and not somewhere to go back to. $4.50 for a draft is disgusting. OK there were four women.

Blond with two guy friends
Brunette with mad tattoos and flat face with dude at the bar
2 black girls at bar with loud dude

The rest were dudes. I wasn’t interested in any of them as they were NOT my type. I like a lot of types, but none of them. I did notice that I was getting attention from every female in there but all the guys were ignoring me. Even the bartender just gave me a beer and didn’t say a thing. That’s OK with me :slight_smile:.

When my friend showed up he was unusually quiet. He is my wing and typically he is as social as I am. If there is no one else to talk to, we at least talk to each other. I felt like I did all the talking. Then this chick, Natalie, came in and I opened her in a few seconds when getting a beer. Funny little thing about her sunglasses. I asked her about them and when she was volunteering info about them I said they reminded me of welders glasses. Small neg as anything else would have killed her confidence. Wasn’t going to find better than her so didn’t want to blow her out. I moved her to my table and we talked cereal :slight_smile:. I do what I can and talk about anything not typical guys would talk about.

MX416 seems to work pretty well so far. It was only a couple hours there, but tonight is the real test at the JigglyWiggly. I honestly didn’t notice any scent. It might have been because the place was just uhhhh, but tonight won’t be better. I usually spray right before I go into a joint. Anyway that’s my MX416 report so far.

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Sweet. Good to know. Although these mixes are engineered to be used at 2 sprays for normal people, note that Steve is exceptional. :slight_smile:

Next time though, study the effects at 2 sprays. We’re aching for info on that. While Steve is a veteran phero tester, the demo we are designing UF2 for is not so savvy.

Hmmm. Looking forward to your report in a more stable/familiar environment! Thanks Steve!

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Well last night I used 3 sprays of MX416 at the Pony and I had three waitresses vying for me attention, including one engaged to be married. All three gave me numbers, and two dancers nearly fought it out to sit by me. Mind you I don’t buy them drinks or dances.

As soon as I get my tasks done I’ll post a nice report. MX416 seems to be a BIG hit.

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Date: Sept 1st, 2011

  1. Pheromones Used
    2S MX416 (So Far it’s the Best Yet)

  2. Purpose of Application
    MX416 Testing

  3. Self Effects for first 5 Minutes
    Slight Rush

  4. Self Effects after 3 hours
    Assertive, Could be seen as Aggression by Others

  5. Location
    Strip Bar

  6. Environment
    Mid 70 F Slight Breeze from Fans

  7. People’s Reaction
    Lots of Interest from Women, Men Tended to Stay Clear… It was Amateur Night So Plenty of Women Showed Up… The Reaction was Rather Good with Women I Knew then Worked at the Bar (even More Friendly then Normal)… However with Women I Didn’t Know it was GOLD… I was Sitting next to a Cute Redhead and Her Boyfriend… She Kept Glancing Over and Finally Asked Me about the Contest and Started Inching Closer as We Spoke… Her Boyfriend just Glanced Over and then Look Away… I Gave Her some Advice and She Entered the Contest… She Didn’t Win, but She Did Give me a 5 Minute LapDance Right out in the Stage Area infront of Her Boyfriend and a Kiss on the Cheek… After that He’d Had Enough and They Left…

  8. Summary
    After a Quick Dry Down the Scent was Gone and Didn’t Come Back…

Length of Effects
The Effects Where as Intended and Lasted Longer then Normal…

Tenacity
Opening Conversations was Simple and Some Women would Open First… Men Where Not Quick to Speak Unless I Started it…

Effectiveness
Just Plain Deadly Out to 3-4 Meters…

Diffusion/Silage
People Where Unaware of the Scent (What Scent)… Infact Afew People that Know Me and are Used to My Normal Cologne Asked Why I wasn’t Wearing Anything Scent Wise…

  1. Effective Results Out to and Slighty Beyond 3 Meters.
  2. Seems More Effective at Close Range (Closer People where in the Scent Longer Also).
  3. NO ONE Noticed a Scent at All. Over 50 People at the Bar that Night…
  4. Seems a Good Choice if Your Need None but not the Smell…
  5. Over All it Seemed Sexually Aggressive and Alpha…
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3 sprays of MX416 at the Pony (Jiggly Wiggly) on Thursday night.

Back-story: I have a few friends who have no social game what-so-ever! If its not someplace where I have mad social proof so they can feed off it, or a place like a strip club where the girls are paid to talk to you, they don’t want to go. Sad, but it is what it is. Personally I am bored at the strip clubs because well I can pick up real women elsewhere. I don’t have to worry about money games and wondering if she is a hooker in the back of my mind. However I’m pretty much the loudest person there when I go. On the other hand the waitresses are always a bigger challenge at strip clubs. They all attempt to work yah, but I know the game well-enough.

On this particular night I was there with JB and DS. I applied three sprays of MX416 directly to my neck minutes before I walked in. I cannot say whether I detected a scent or not. These places tend to stink so where as I understand the optimum level is between one and two sprays, I believe it would be drowned out in the ensuing madness of other synthetic copulins and pheromones. Believe me you, strippers wear pheromones by the gallon! So yeah three sprays when your competing with every person in there even the girls seems more reasonable.

There were three waitresses and they were all in competition to get my drink order. I spread it around a bit and each one of them lingered and spoke to me for quite a bit. Now they are not allowed to sit with customers but each one would kneel down before me. One of the three was right between my knees and mentioned that it was a nice view :wink:. When she got up she ran her hand up my thigh and so I said if you want to cop a feel you might not let go. I guess she felt brave because she grabbed my junk and got this surprised look on her face. After a prolonged pause I told her I was going to have to start charging her. She blushed and walked off.

Another waitress kept wanting to hug me and would basically give me a Bronsky. At one point it was almost like she was shoving her boob into my face aligning the nipple to my mouth. Hmmm I gave the shirt a bit of a bite :smiley:. She didn’t seem to mind. She eventually told me her whole life story about how she was going to get married in October… Not into messing around with other guys girls but she was insistent she needed a guy to do her good. I got her number first. She made me promise I would call her and do wicked sinful things with her. I told her I need to check out her but first and she lifted her dress and then I smacked her. I agreed at this point to corrupt her.

Well the first waitress came back over and said something along the lines how she felt left out and I told her there was enough of me to go around. She agreed in a sly kind of way and whispered something to the other waitress. I think I know what she said though and they both kind of laughed and walked off.

At this point I had a dancer sit on my lap and before very long started grinding on my lap. I’m a guy and she was cute, but never will I buy a drink or a dance for them. This girl was virtually giving me a lap dance while I sat in the chair. I do believe she was getting off on all that. She seemed to get “flustered” and hurried off. I wonder if she had the BIG O?

Then another girl came over and sat on my lap and she just reached down and started stroking me through my pants. I told her I was going to have to charge her for that and removed her hand. Well after a few minutes the other girl who I think got off was back and wanting the girl now sitting on my lap off. There were some dirty looks so I asked the girl on my lap to get off and went to the bathroom. Jeez I was thinking. So that’s when I got a cigar. For the most part it kept the girls away.

The waitress (number 3) was the cutest. She was pretty direct the whole time saying she wasn’t interested in giving me her number. Now keep in mind I had only asked for a beer and a cigar from her and had no conversation. She was the one who initiated this crazy talk. :stuck_out_tongue:. I barely had any other interaction other than mild flirting and what not. Well before I was about to leave she comes up and gives me her number and whispers in my ear that she agrees with the other girls that she has been a bad girl and needs me to straighten her out. She said she understood and flipped up her dress revealing a nice pink thong. She promised me she would do her best to give back everything I could give to her.

I called her a little while ago and tried to set up a day two with her tonight. She said why don’t we skip all the BS and just meet her at her apartment tonight. It looks like tonight is going to be FUN :cool:

On Friday I went to a patio bar and was a bit early and my friend was a bit late. I got to talking to a three set at the next table over. It went really, really well until my friend showed up and DHV’d himself and thus me by sitting with his back to the table I was in obvious conversation with. The girl who I was interested in when she walked out, was drop dead gorgeous! She said I should get some new friends who aren’t so rude. LOL, there’s one I won’t get now.

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OK so waitress three just texted me that other waitresses are jealous and waitress one wants to come along. I replied next time, but this time I’d like to get to know all of her.

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**Date: 5th-6th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX416, 2S MX416

2. Purpose of Application
MX416 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Slight rush, but getting used to UF2 package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressively smooth.

5. Location
Lecture, training.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Loads of role-play.

7. People’s Reaction
So a new week a new day of training. Over the past two days, went for some in-house training on doing sales. HUGE range of people and especially ladies, from late tens to mid-30’s.

Started the training and the trainer told us to open. I was literally on a bull opening spree. He told us to open only 3 people but I opened probably 10 people, all in 5 minutes.

Was linking threads and got introduced to many people within the short time span.

Respect from dudes and head turns from women from all ranges.

Got together in groupings of 6.

Was the only dude in the group.

In this career line, everyone was very well groomed, ladies were extremely OL types and hungry for success. Most of them were alpha females. They didn’t pose much of a challenge honestly as compared to social butterfly’s in the clubs and bars.

Was engaging the 5 of them with kino within the next 5 hours of the first day. They started getting extremely comfortable within the training.

This mix REALLY puts you on the radar but people do not know why it does so. I could not really smell the -none in this mix. The effects on this is better than MX414 but I felt the hidden scent was better with MX414. But it could be because I had gotten better with detecting -none over the past 3 weeks.

On the second day, got together again and wore double the dose.

HOLY CRAP.

Should NOT have done that. The group I was with LITERALLY ignored the trainer throughout the whole session. Although I was engaged with the trainer, there were loads of giggle going around.

Age range was from 19-27, they slyly gave away their age under-the-radar through conversation.

I was seen more or less as the alpha guy who could get along VERY WELL with ladies. And alpha ladies to boot. I got into their heads and went off topics on their career and ran through human social dynamics.

Grooming? Check
Style? Check
Body? Check
Social Status? Check
Intelligence? Check
Respect from men? Check
Leader of men and ladies? Check

Alpha all the way.

Got together with one of the girls after the training for a quick date. Sweet girl and hungry for success. Made a move and she obliged easily. This was 10 hours after application.

Was literally pouring her heart out.

It was a happy sweet exhausting Tuesday Night.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414 and MX415 COMBINED.

Tenacity
No ejection button, you hit people very hard with your just-do-it attitude. And they find it amazingly attractive.

Effectiveness
Effective to meet-ups and 1-to-1.

Diffusion/Silage

  1. You are in everyone’s radar. From far and they get affected within 4m range.
  2. If you have already established very good 1-to-1 relations, at 2S, this is HOLY CRAP.
  3. Any sexual relations after comfort, this escalation becomes effortless.
    4. Good combo of MX414 and MX415. Best of both worlds.
  4. VERY TIME SENSITIVE.

But will update my results accordingly :slight_smile:

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**Date: 5th-6th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX416, 2S MX416

2. Purpose of Application
MX416 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Slight rush, but getting used to UF2 package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressively smooth.

5. Location
Lecture, training.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Loads of role-play.

7. People’s Reaction
So a new week a new day of training. Over the past two days, went for some in-house training on doing sales. HUGE range of people and especially ladies, from late tens to mid-30’s.

Started the training and the trainer told us to open. I was literally on a bull opening spree. He told us to open only 3 people but I opened probably 10 people, all in 5 minutes.

Was linking threads and got introduced to many people within the short time span.

Respect from dudes and head turns from women from all ranges.

Got together in groupings of 6.

Was the only dude in the group.

In this career line, everyone was very well groomed, ladies were extremely OL types and hungry for success. Most of them were alpha females. They didn’t pose much of a challenge honestly as compared to social butterfly’s in the clubs and bars.

Was engaging the 5 of them with kino within the next 5 hours of the first day. They started getting extremely comfortable within the training.

This mix REALLY puts you on the radar but people do not know why it does so. I could not really smell the -none in this mix. The effects on this is better than MX414 but I felt the hidden scent was better with MX414. But it could be because I had gotten better with detecting -none over the past 3 weeks.

On the second day, got together again and wore double the dose.

HOLY CRAP.

Should NOT have done that. The group I was with LITERALLY ignored the trainer throughout the whole session. Although I was engaged with the trainer, there were loads of giggle going around.

Age range was from 19-27, they slyly gave away their age under-the-radar through conversation.

I was seen more or less as the alpha guy who could get along VERY WELL with ladies. And alpha ladies to boot. I got into their heads and went off topics on their career and ran through human social dynamics.

Grooming? Check
Style? Check
Body? Check
Social Status? Check
Intelligence? Check
Respect from men? Check
Leader of men and ladies? Check

Alpha all the way.

Got together with one of the girls after the training for a quick date. Sweet girl and hungry for success. Made a move and she obliged easily. This was 10 hours after application.

Was literally pouring her heart out.

It was a happy sweet exhausting Tuesday Night.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414 and MX415 COMBINED.

Tenacity
No ejection button, you hit people very hard with your just-do-it attitude. And they find it amazingly attractive.

Effectiveness
Effective to meet-ups and 1-to-1.

Diffusion/Silage

  1. You are in everyone’s radar. From far and they get affected within 4m range.
  2. If you have already established very good 1-to-1 relations, at 2S, this is HOLY CRAP.
  3. Any sexual relations after comfort, this escalation becomes effortless.
    4. Good combo of MX414 and MX415. Best of both worlds.
  4. VERY TIME SENSITIVE.

Taken from: Journal Entry, 5-6th Sept, 2011

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How time sensitive do you think 416 is?

16

Wow. I am REEEEALLY wanting to test out MX416. The reports on it sound like it’s a BEAST.

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I’m going to use Oasis’s format since it’s really good. Haven’t been testing UF2 lately as I had nowhere to test it. Until last night me and the wife got invited to my wife’s friends bridal shower. I thought it was only for women, but I guess this day and age it’s more of a get together for both male and female.

1. Pheromones Used
1S MX416

2. Purpose of Application
MX416 testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
None that I can remember

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
None that I can remember

5. Location
Bridal Shower at a friends house

6. Environment
Central Air

7. People’s Reaction
I didn’t put anything on as we went out. I decided to put it on when we got to the party. As soon as we got there I went to the bathroom and put 1 spray MX416. Good thing about the Stealth diffusion is it doesn’t smell like I just put on cologne when I got out of the bathroom.

We started playing Cranium shortly after. One of the tasks in that game was the puppet and the puppet master. Pretty much it’s charades but one person is the puppet and one person is the puppet master. the puppet master has to act out the word using someone as a puppet. I was the puppet and one of the bridesmaids was the puppet master.

I guess she got a nice smell of it on me because after the game was over, she asked me to help her get the cake from the refridgerator in the garage. When we got to the garage she opened the refridgerator and bent over giving me a nice upskirt look. She got the cake from the bottom shelf and asked me if I liked what i saw. I thought to myself if she’s gonna play I’m gonna play too. I answered her and said yeah, but it would be better if you didn’t have anything underneath your skirt. She said that can be arranged. She then took off her panties and put them in my pocket. She then handed me the cake box and I followed her back to the party. It’s still in my car under my seat. The rest of the party I kept catching her looking at me.

Summary:
This mone like any other wont do it on its own. You have to initiate where you want the conversation to go. Look for subtle hints and when you see it from her act on it and say something playful, but with a sexual reference. Once you do that you wont believe what kind of reaction you’ll get.

Strength
Scent went away after 5 minutes or so. I could smell it come back here and there during the course of the party.

Length of Effects
I would say at least 4 hours

Tenacity

Blatant hits if done right.

Effectiveness
Great for a group setting and one on one.

Diffusion/Silage
If someone is right next to you as in a slow dance closeness or in my case the puppet master closeness, this thing is VERY effective. Haven’t noticed much from other people as they weren’t that close to me.

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Nice report, That was one hell of a hit :open_mouth:

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Not as time sensitive as 415. 416 is time sensitive in a sense of the connection timing. It also incurs a fall-out effect which is similar to A314. People exposed to this signature will notice it strongly and remember that aggressiveness.

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**Date: 7th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    2S MX416

2. Purpose of Application
MX416 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Slight rush, but getting used to UF2 package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressively smooth.

5. Location
Lecture, training.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Loads of role-play.

7. People’s Reaction
So staggered to the training room after my morning workout, to be perfectly honest, had a very exhausting night and had to really take a caffeine pill in the morning to get me going.

Anyway, girl I was with last night didn’t turn up that day, must have felt tired. Oh well, went on the usual training, than got an SMS from her, saying she had a great night and she wanted to meet up again, replied and flirted awhile.

Back to business, did some cold calls practice to make appointments for sales. Managed to hit the target easily, most of friends are very supportive of my new career in the next month to come.

Think MX416 helped a lot in terms of aggression, but noticed that my tone was a little to dominating, might want to add socials to this mix should this test pack be available as a product line in future.

Regards to the social dynamics of the entire group for the third day, the compounded effect became super pronounced. Was noticed by everyone in their radar and got LOADS of hits from ALL the females in the room.

My group I was with were disengaged with the trainer and focused more on what I had to say rather than what the trainer had to teach. That was great in a way but had to redirect their attention to the trainer, he was a good teacher and I wanted them to absorb as much as they could.

So after a whole day, number closed about 30 new friends, more than half were females, big range of ages.

Left a good footprint behind them and went onward to hold an after training celebration with my group.

Decided to head down to a local bar where I knew the manager. So instant social value hit when I entered. Only 2 guys joined in, cause most of them were married or attached, all the better.

Had a great conversation and finished the night by engaging a solo conversation with one of the ladies.

Euro-asian mix, 21 year old, alpha female and success hungry.

Still, compared to clubs? No challenge.

She mentioned, “You are different from other guys, most of them just want to sleep with me, but I don’t sense that from you.”

Went back and engaged kino and accelerated. Similar to previous night events, also worked after 10 hours and it was exhausting, I think alpha females have too much pent up energy.

Back to campus again after a 3-day crazy crash course on MX416, back to office to test effects. Hope it would do better than MX415 :slight_smile:

Two nights in a row.

MX416?

A GODSEND.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414 and MX415 COMBINED.

Tenacity
No ejection button, you hit people very hard with your just-do-it attitude. And they find it amazingly attractive.

Effectiveness
Effective to meet-ups and 1-to-1.

Diffusion/Silage
After the fall-out period and compound effect, people WANT TO KNOW YOU. They are like, I have to know this guy. You FREEZE their brains during sex, euphoric senses rushing towards their olfactory senses through the whole night.

  1. Compound effects over a long term is great.
  2. Better to start off at 1S, than build up to 2S. It amplifies the initial good effects from 1S. Do not proceed to 2S if you leave bad footprints.
  3. Need to test in office environment, this mix is great for a very positive environment.

4. In regards to time Sensitivity

  • Dries down in 5 minutes, scent is hidden
  • First 2 hours, no -none scent.
  • Creeps up after 2 hour mark
  • -None scent explodes after around 6 hours
  • Hits the nail in brain during sex (Approx 10 hours later)