The OFFICIAL MX417 Discussion Thread

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX417?

MX417 is the part of the New UF2 Pack.

AWESOMENESS ADVISORY: THE ‘PROJECT UF EXPERIMENT’ HAS ENTERED PHASE 2!

Status: Not Currently in Production

Request MX417 here: RequestMX@androtics.com

Quote from original Release Thread August 12th, 2011]:

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

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I got home and showered after work and then went out to get some groceries. Usually get them on my way home but forgot it today.

So I thought I might as well try one from the UF2. I picked in random and came up with 417. The first spray was pretty weak, the second still wasn’t full so I got a third. All on the front of my neck.

The smell was pretty strong and I didn’t like it much. Clearly pheromonal, not much cover. I was really tempted to put on some cologne but fought the urge. After some 10 minutes I couldn’t detect any scent at all and went out.

After a few more minutes a new scent presented itself. Strong and spicy, not bad at all but I got a bit self-conscious because I could sense it so clearly. I thought I must have some huge cloud around me. A while later that smell also vanished, or I just got used to it.

I couldn’t see any reactions at all. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I’ve never understood the ghosting thing, could this have been it? Maybe the 2,5 or whatever sprays I got was too much.

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I’m gonna try 417 during the day, maybe give it or something else from the UF2 another go tonight.

The smell of mones is very strong at first but it’s amazing how quickly it disappears. In just a few minutes there’s no smell at all and no other scent emerges after a while, which I thought I sensed last time. That must’ve been someone else’s cologne and that guy must’ve been wearing a lot.

I’m pretty sure now that I did OD on the first try. I showered quickly after work, I’d been wearing mones and sweating a lot, probably didn’t get all none off me and then threw in 2-2,5 sprays of 417. This time I’m clean.

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I went out for coffee wearing 417 but didn’t notice anything special. No positive reactions to speak of but no negative ones either. I’ll go out again in a while but this doesn’t seem to do anything for me. Maybe the diffusion is delayed and starts working properly after a couple of hours or so? We’ll find out.

I have 2 sprays on my neck.

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I applied another spray of 417 and went out to shop and then eat at a diner. Still nothing. People were friendly but most of them tend to be, with or without mones. A young chick and who I’m guessing was her mother let me go first in line at the store but that was probably because I only had a pack of gum, shower gel and some batteries while they were hauling a ton of goods to the cashier.

Nothing special happened at the diner either. One of the girls working there gave me some long looks but she’s always done that, also when I’m not wearing mones. Nothing new.

Is it just me or did AD sneak a placebo into the pack? :wink:

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Fast is dries right away. For comparison i sprayed PA on me as well on another location and that dried instantly. Compare that to a neroli spray where it takes a bit longer to dry down and even after drying it feels a bit sticky like its still wettish.

The scent in 417 also felt stronger. 2 sprays and walking to the store in a gusty wind before the hurricane came by and i could smell the 417 waft around me. Reminds me of a laundry that sat damp in a dryer because the dryer didnt fully dry the load.

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I tested out MX417 the other night. I sprayed the first half spray on my forearms just to check out the smell. It was very interesting that the scent was very sweet. I could still smell a portion of it 3-4 hours after the application. The rest of the 2 sprays, I sprayed on the side of the neck. I worked out that day and it was warmer out so I know diffusion wasn’t an issue. Unfortunately, I went out to a roof top bar. There was nothing there to really consider a hit, the IOI’s I got, which btw I didn’t act on cause I was being a puss that night, were from way too far away 8+ feet or greater.

There was no further aggression with any of the males out I was with and the interactions I had with

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Oasis got my vote for TOTW. Great report. Going out tonight and will give MX417 a shot

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I just spit my water all over my screen. To funny!

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Thanks Steve, not sure how similar my results are, but results are still results, good or bad :slight_smile:

Love to read reports on future Mixes, but don’t want to spoil it :stuck_out_tongue:

The OFFICIAL MX416 Discussion Thread
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Tested Some MX417 Tonight and it was Odd… I’ll be Reporting Later on That… Right Now I have Afew Emails a to Write and I have to Eat Dinner at 3am then Off to Bed…

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1. Pheromones Used
2S MX417

2. Purpose of Application
MX417 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Didn’t notice anything

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Didn’t notice anything

5. Location
Massage

6. Environment
Air conditioned room

7. People’s Reaction
Called my usual massage therapist, and found out she would be out of town for the next 2 weeks. I wanted to get a session since my lower back was a bit stiff, so I looked in the newspaper for someone who could take me that day. Found one called her and she said I can come anytime as this was a slow day for her.

2 sprays on MX417. 1 to the back of the neck (for when Im laying face down) and 1 to the chest (for when I turn over on my back). Smell went away pretty quick.

Arrived there and she told me to undress and lay face down on the table. She started and the massage was very weak. (no wonder she was open all day) After about 30 minutes of a lame so called massage she asked me to turn over. She started on my legs and gently/accidentally brushed the boys. I was thinking if I’m not gonna get a good massage at least I’ll get a good ending. About 20 more minutes of lame massaging she told me thank you, and asked if I needed to shower.

Not the ending I wanted… Got dressed, paid her and left. Whether the brushing was a hit or not, I don’t know. Thinking back what I should have done was act on it. It might have been a hint she was giving. Regardless her massage was so bad that I don’t think I’ll repeat. If she gave a better massage I might think of going back and seeing what would happen on a return visit. Will try again with my original therapist in 2 weeks.

8. Summary

Strength
No smell after the first 5 minutes though I did start to smell the -none during the massage while on my back.

Length of Effects
A few hours during testing.

Tenacity
I didn’t notice any hits.

Effectiveness
1 on 1 massage session with different results from another therapist. Only difference is I’ve been seeing the other therapist for a while. This new one was for the first time.

Diffusion/Silage
A few feet from me the whole time.

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MX417 actually had this hottie from Prague I met, wanting to get away from me as quickly as possible on Friday. It was like night and day from my previous encounters with her.

Two weeks ago Friday I mentioned to her that I might be going to Prague on my European tour I’m taking in October/November and she was very curious. So much so, unbeknownst to me, she waited for me outside. I thought she had just left so I went another way. So this week I told her I wanted to talk with her and she mentioned that she waited for me last time. I was wearing two sprays of MX417 to the neck and NOTHING else. I usually always wear A314, but I forgot I had taken it out of the Jeep when I was cleaning it.

When I hooked up with her after the meetup group ended it was odd because she seemed very uninterested. The first time we spoke she was sending lots of IOI’s, but this time it was totally opposite. I asked her to make some recommendations for my trip since that is her home country. She was like go to Prague and Vienna if you get a chance. When I told her I was going to be in Europe for a month or two she was very inquisitive the first time. Thing is I wasn’t looking to hit on her, I was genuinely looking for suggestions. If anything pushed her away.

Now that I think back to it really everyone in the group this time, seemed a bit apprehensive around me. It could have been that A314 was out of the equation, but usually they all look to me as one of the leaders. I haven’t had an opportunity to retest it so it could just as easily been an off night.

When I went to the Flying Saucer the beer goddesses were pretty stand-offish too. One actually was outright rude and not being one to take that crap I let her know as much.

Almost seemed as if people were taking offense to things that were not offensive. Maybe adds to much seriousness and aggressiveness to interactions. I’ll give it another go, but was not my favorite so far.

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**Date: 12-13th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX417

2. Purpose of Application
MX417 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
No more rush, built resistance to package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Smooth, smooth talker.

5. Location
Campus, mentorship training.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Loads of role-play.

7. People’s Reaction
Took a much deserved break from testing over the weekend. Just used IShine and A314 over the weekend for mood lifting effects.

Came back with MX417 with a reset natural mone package.

Effects wise, met up with a friend over the two days and had a training and review over the week with my mentor. Learned loads. Think that this particular scent package is more invasive than 414-417. People aren’t as play-along. Can tell that something is somewhere somehow and they are able to sense it.

Above noticed effects seems to only apply to males.

Females on the other hand are a different matter.

Over the past few months, ever since I started using mones, I am able to smell women who are ovulating and women who are pregnant give off a very calm vibe.

Could sense and smell it during my conversation with my co-mentor.

Didn’t say much but could really appreciate the bond and friendship that seems to be developing over the past month.

Same goes for my mentor.

Things are getting and growing over towards the track of career now. Amongst my peers, I am probably the most busiest of all. Working 3 jobs at one time and at the same time meeting friends and handling family matters.

Career advancement for all 3 jobs are potentially great with the potential to learn and expand into further businesses in future to be what I would call really and truly great.

I’ve never been happier with the amount of mentorship and happiness that life could provide. Even though exhausting, I live everyday in a smooth and exciting adventure. Was able to enter this entry because I took a day off to reflect and rest.

Going full throttle for nearly 2 weeks is exhausting as it is. And on top of that, testing mones is also something which you need to pay extra detail and attention to.

Not to mention the extra effort you have to put in to place yourself in different situations and observe different reactions towards different vibes and energy levels.

Back to this particular mix, the past two days have been a full throttle drive. Taking a break with A314 seems to stop and brew up the storm in the future. An exciting adventure.

More detailed timing is in the summary.

Life is awesome.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414, length wise, 8-10 hours.

Tenacity
Slight retreat for males, females respond very well to MX417. But still think that MX416 retains attention better.

Effectiveness
Very effective. Less effective than MX416 in terms of combination of 414 and 415. Closer to 414 but not as effective.

Diffusion/Silage
Closer they get, the more affected they are. Similar to MX414 in this aspect.

  1. Office environment, you are focused, motivated and driven.
    2.Hits on people’s radar, but might be more towards the danger button.
  2. People respect you in office.***
  3. Fantastic in 1-to-1 conversations.
  4. Great for mature women.
  5. With great power comes great responsibility
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**Date: 12-13th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX417

2. Purpose of Application
MX417 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
No more rush, built resistance to package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Smooth, smooth talker.

5. Location
Campus, mentorship training.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Loads of role-play.

7. People’s Reaction
Took a much deserved break from testing over the weekend. Just used IShine and A314 over the weekend for mood lifting effects.

Came back with MX417 with a reset natural mone package.

Effects wise, met up with a friend over the two days and had a training and review over the week with my mentor. Learned loads. Think that this particular scent package is more invasive than 414-417. People aren’t as play-along. Can tell that something is somewhere somehow and they are able to sense it.

Above noticed effects seems to only apply to males.

Females on the other hand are a different matter.

Over the past few months, ever since I started using mones, I am able to smell women who are ovulating and women who are pregnant give off a very calm vibe.

Could sense and smell it during my conversation with my co-mentor.

Didn’t say much but could really appreciate the bond and friendship that seems to be developing over the past month.

Same goes for my mentor.

Things are getting and growing over towards the track of career now. Amongst my peers, I am probably the most busiest of all. Working 3 jobs at one time and at the same time meeting friends and handling family matters.

Career advancement for all 3 jobs are potentially great with the potential to learn and expand into further businesses in future to be what I would call really and truly great.

I’ve never been happier with the amount of mentorship and happiness that life could provide. Even though exhausting, I live everyday in a smooth and exciting adventure. Was able to enter this entry because I took a day off to reflect and rest.

Going full throttle for nearly 2 weeks is exhausting as it is. And on top of that, testing mones is also something which you need to pay extra detail and attention to.

Not to mention the extra effort you have to put in to place yourself in different situations and observe different reactions towards different vibes and energy levels.

Back to this particular mix, the past two days have been a full throttle drive. Taking a break with A314 seems to stop and brew up the storm in the future. An exciting adventure.

More detailed timing is in the summary.

Life is awesome.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414, length wise, 8-10 hours.

Tenacity
Slight retreat for males, females respond very well to MX417. But still think that MX416 retains attention better.

Effectiveness
Very effective. Less effective than MX416 in terms of combination of 414 and 415. Closer to 414 but not as effective.

Diffusion/Silage
Closer they get, the more affected they are. Similar to MX414 in this aspect.

  1. Office environment, you are focused, motivated and driven.
    2.Hits on people’s radar, but might be more towards the danger button.
  2. People respect you in office.
  3. Fantastic in 1-to-1 conversations.
  4. Great for mature women.
  5. With great power comes great responsibility

Taken from: Journal Entry, 12-13th Sept, 2011

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Oasis, you have extremely good and detailed reports. But remember that you want to take advantage of what this mix has to offer. Don’t sell your experiences short and test it out in these kinds of environments exclusively. I think with your perception you would be better off testing these at parties, or where the environment isn’t so “constrained” for the real effects of this MX to rear its head.

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That is the kind of reaction, I am getting with these mixes but I did not want to rain on anyone’s parade. I guess I am expecting a lot more from these mixes. First of, I would like to say I was not a fan of MX391, I reported a while back that it was too intense (just like TUTH) and that I liked MX395 better. I believe there should have been a vote on the UF mixes. At least, I like the fact that it was decided to dose it at 2 sprays so we can try using it at 1 or 2 sprays. However, I am still not having a lot of luck with these mixes. My preliminary findings/notes at clubs have been:
MX414
1s Hit or miss mix. Lots of smiles from fugly girls. Lots of rejection from quality ladies.
2s Very intense. Could feel angry stares from guys. Pretty girl I know from a while back said I grabbed and felt her butt hugging her, when I did not.
MX415
No hits with this mix at 2s. -None build up? OD or a dud? Definitely not as effective as MX414.
MX416
1s Similar to MX414
2s is worse than 1s
MX417
1s A few smiles
2s Lots of rejection when I open ladies

1s = 1 spray; 2s = 2 sprays

Consumer Line: AMMO, A314, Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Turn Up the heat, Instant Gentleman, Instant Jerk, Come Talk To Me Mix 2

MX Series: MX297, MX301, MX330, Project UF, Project UF2, MX412

Putatives: P74, P75, P78, P83, P86, P91, P93, P96

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Gotta agree with you 395 was king of the uf pack for me aswell but 391 was a close second .

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**Date: 14-16th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX417

2. Purpose of Application
MX417 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
No more rush, built resistance to package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Smooth, smooth talker.

5. Location
Campus, cafes, clients meetings.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Malls. Bars.

7. People’s Reaction
Exhaustion has reached its peak on Friday night. Had to hold myself to go out and spend an entire night asleep.

Worked 3 different jobs on Wednesday, jumped shipped from office, to clients to teaching 1-on-1.

Noticed that effects were great, people were readily available to ask questions and receive information from me.

Hit wise, hanged out many times with friends of my co-mentor. Ladies were nice girls in their late ten’s.

Was heading towards the direction of mentoring one of her students in an industry area.

Used the cube on one of the girls, blown over and away. Instant attraction and rapport. Friend turned up and pierced her through with my analysis and reading. Gave me the shit test but nothing I couldn’t handle because of the thousands of girls I approached before.

Had to stop at comfort and not proceed with seduction. Did not want this to move further even though I spark attraction every once in a while.

They however, attempted kino escalation. Something worthwhile noting.

Had 2 hours of sleep on thursday, moved on to Friday to carve out a lesson on Friday morning. Dead tired, sprayed MX417 and hit the class hard with interest spikes in life. About social skills etc, totally blown over.

Hit towards town to meet a client and had a quote.

Headed to casino hotel, had a gathering there with old time friends. Hit their girls friends over. Generally had the very good buddy buddy vibe.

Not too dominating with people whom you know, with people you do not know, this amplifies attraction. Has a little bit of wall that you have to break through, but when you do, you blow them away.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
This lasts equally long as to MX414 and MX416.

Tenacity
Slight retreat for males, females respond very well to MX417. But still think that MX416 retains attention better.

Effectiveness
More effective the closer they are to you. When girls come towards near proximity, they love you. Get the buddy vibe effect from guys whom you have known for a long time.

Diffusion/Silage
Cloud effect, you affect the whole group and a whole.

  1. Great for putting yourself on the map in social situations and gatherings.
  2. Rare ejection button.
  3. Shit test from girls whom you do not know.
  4. Break through that and you blow them away.
  5. Great buddy effect from friends and dudes whom you know for a long time.
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**Date: 14-16th Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX417

2. Purpose of Application
MX417 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
No more rush, built resistance to package.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Smooth, smooth talker.

5. Location
Campus, cafes, clients meetings.

6. Environment
Air conditioned room. Malls. Bars.

7. People’s Reaction
Exhaustion has reached its peak on Friday night. Had to hold myself to go out and spend an entire night asleep.

Worked 3 different jobs on Wednesday, jumped shipped from office, to clients to teaching 1-on-1.

Noticed that effects were great, people were readily available to ask questions and receive information from me.

Hit wise, hanged out many times with friends of my co-mentor. Ladies were nice girls in their late ten’s.

Was heading towards the direction of mentoring one of her students in an industry area.

Used the cube on one of the girls, blown over and away. Instant attraction and rapport. Friend turned up and pierced her through with my analysis and reading. Gave me the shit test but nothing I couldn’t handle because of the thousands of girls I approached before.

Had to stop at comfort and not proceed with seduction. Did not want this to move further even though I spark attraction every once in a while.

They however, attempted kino escalation. Something worthwhile noting.

Had 2 hours of sleep on thursday, moved on to Friday to carve out a lesson on Friday morning. Dead tired, sprayed MX417 and hit the class hard with interest spikes in life. About social skills etc, totally blown over.

Hit towards town to meet a client and had a quote.

Headed to casino hotel, had a gathering there with old time friends. Hit their girls friends over. Generally had the very good buddy buddy vibe.

Not too dominating with people whom you know, with people you do not know, this amplifies attraction. Has a little bit of wall that you have to break through, but when you do, you blow them away.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, scent came back after 2 hours. Could only smell a very slight scent of -none.

Length of Effects
This lasts equally long as to MX414 and MX416.

Tenacity
Slight retreat for males, females respond very well to MX417. But still think that MX416 retains attention better.

Effectiveness
More effective the closer they are to you. When girls come towards near proximity, they love you. Get the buddy vibe effect from guys whom you have known for a long time.

Diffusion/Silage
Cloud effect, you affect the whole group and a whole.

  1. Great for putting yourself on the map in social situations and gatherings.
  2. Rare ejection button.
  3. Shit test from girls whom you do not know.
  4. Break through that and you blow them away.
  5. Great buddy effect from friends and dudes whom you know for a long time.

Taken from: Journal Entry, 14-16th Sept, 2011