What was I thinking?
Of course Jasmin discovered that already! ![]()
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Ok, going back to the original post, interesting report SteveO.
I like the way that the none has been buffered with Beta nol and TAC. I find it hard myself to effectively buffer the effects in my mix. Either they work out great or completely crap.
From the reports made by the users you gave the mix to it looks like a effective and consistant product. Just one thing pops into my mind and I hope no one takes offence but how old are you guys? I wonder if this mix would be equally effective with younger members given the heavier none.
Sometimes it seems like there are too many damn variables to work out mixes for a wide range of people (that said Ammo seems to do the job). And therein lies the problem with some of the MX’s, in reality you can only really vary the number of sprays and application points but not really change concentration of the mix. I guess thats why I’m in favour of creating my own mixes.
Anyhoo, hopefully Androtics will be releasing a SteveOMX001 (SteveO’s Experimental mix) soon!
This mix looks really exciting and I can’t help but take a shot at it’s contents.
I think for the 3 pheros already mentioned in Steveo’s post the values after the decimal are primarily because of dilution from a higher concentration, and are not really intentional, moreover this allows me to keep my calculations simple
, so here is what I think it might contain per spray:
None: 5 mcg
TAC: 5 mcg
Beta-nol: 5 mcg
P74: 5 mcg
P79: 2.5 mcg
TAL: 1.5 mcg
Total phero content comes out to 24 mcg/spray.
Reason for including P79 and TAL are the extreme forwardness exhibited by women. I think P74 is integral as well given it’s great social results for most people.
Frankly I would have liked to see P93, and I might be making a mistake by leaving it out, because the effect of seeing men almost bow out and feeling comfortable leaving their girls to the phero-wearer feels like Est/P93 family of behavior to me.
Anyway guys anyone wants to take a shot at it, or suggest changes to my mix. Steveo, Mark, GQ, Tisha, Attractor and Jasmin are specially invited!
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OK, well I think this will be my last reporting post on the SteveO mix, cause I am thoroughly convinced of it, and having worn it 5 or 6 times with consistent results, don’t think there’s further need to keep coming back and saying that it worked again.
Thursday, I wore 15 sprays to approximate 5 sprays of SteveO’s concentration and went to my usual country western nightclub. It was REALLY slow and the single women were few and far between, so it wasn’t a great night. The crazy bitch from the week before showed up and came over and sat by me and started talking (the one that asked about SteveO’s warning). She was really getting on my nerves, so on the first opportunity I got up and walked away. I went to the far back of the club and hung out with one of the waitresses who was running a beer tub. Before long 2 of the other waitresses that I know are back there with us and we spend about 30 minutes talking and having a good time. I eventually go back to the front once crazy girl was gone, and 2 other girls I know, although not very well, come over and hang out with me for pretty much the rest of the night. This was unusual because they NEVER stay more than a minute or 2, before walking off.
All in all, Thursday was pretty uneventful.
Friday night, I’m back at the club and wearing the 12 sprays that I’d been wearing the other times.
This was probably the best night I’ve had with this mix. When I got there, there were 3 girls and a guy near my usual spot. I am guessing it was a mother (around 45 or so), and here 2 daughters (around 20 and 23 or so). I assumed the guy to be with the older daughter. I took up a spot around 8-10 feet away from them, and walked past them a couple times, passing within about 2 feet or so. Over the next hour, I was getting a lot of eye contact from all 3 girls, and surprisingly the most was coming from the older daughter, with the boyfriend. The girls were taking turns dancing with the guy, and every time they would come back they would get a little closer to me. It was actually really funny watching, because each time they would come back from a dance the girl coming back would take up the position closest to me. So it was like musical chairs and the girls were rotating positions. After about an hour of this the older daughter was like 2 feet away from me and we got to talking a little.
There were 2 other girls I knew to be under 21 that sat right next to me during the course of the evening, the first was a friend of a girl that I knew, that jumped up and sat down so she was almost pressed up against me, and just seemed to want my attention.
The second girl was there with her mother too, and she sat about 1 foot away, then kept looking at me and smiling. When the band came on she just started staring at me and singing along, like she was singing to me.
There were also couple of other girls behind me that kept looking at me and smiling. At one point one of the girls slapped her hand on the table to get my attention, then introduces herself to me and starts talking. I wasn’t at all interested in her, so I talked for a minute, then turned my attention back to the girl who had been serenading me.
A little later, another girl comes over, who I’ve known for like 5 years, but never knew her really well and had not seen her in about 2 years. She talked for a minute, then said she was with a date and should probably get back to him. About 15 minutes later she came back and said that she was really pissed at him because he was flirting with another girl, and she was ready to stop seeing him. He comes over about 2 minutes later and tries to start a fight with me. Well, I don’t ever back down from a fight, and for that reason I very rarely ever actually have to fight. Anyway, this asshole’s posturing for the alpha male, and I’m just staring him in the eye and telling him that I’d done nothing wrong, but if he wants to take it outside the doors right over there. The girl totally jumps to my defense and starts telling him that he’s wrong and acting like an asshole. The next thing I know, he dropped the alpha act and starts apologizing to me profusely and keeps wanting to shake my hand and be my buddy.
A few minutes later some girl I’d never met comes over and smiles at me and says hello. Then she literally leans up against me and starts trying to talk to me. The girl and the guy that tried to pick the fight with me are on the other side, and I’m trying to divide my attention between them, when the guy starts hitting on this new girl.
Well that was pretty much it for the girl that I did know. She goes off on him, then says that he’s acting like an asshole and she doesn’t want to see him anymore. Her purse is in his car, so she tells him that she just wants to get her purse and she’ll get home on her own. One of the bouncers went out to the car with them to make sure there was no trouble, and the girl comes back in by herself and comes straight back to me. I told her that if she trusted me enough I would take her home, and she says of course I trust you. We go out and dance a few songs and shes pressing right up against me and telling me how comfortable she is with me, and how sorry she is about how “that asshole” treated me.
At closing time we decide to join a few of my friends for breakfast at IHOP. By the time we left she was walking with her arm around me, and we had a few quick kisses. While I’m driving her home we’ve got our hands on each others legs and were getting along fantastically. When I got her to her apartment I walked her to her door and we hugged and kissed goodbye. It might have gone further, but she has a 15 year old son who was there. But, I am seeing her again tonight, and she just may end up being “MY LORI”, except for that her name is Francis.
So here is my conclusion on this mix:
It ROCKS! It seems to make women want to be around you, want attention from you, and want to get to know you. It has a strong sexual vibe to it, but also leans heavily toward comfort and intimacy.
It’s not a “Hey, I want you to do me right here, right now” mix, but more of a “Hey, lets get to know each other and see where it goes.”
The IOI’s generated are a smack in the face type, not like I think she might possibly be showing some interest. And the strongest hits come from younger girls, with the older ladies being a little less blatant.
EDIT:
On thinking about some of the hits I’ve had with this mix, I know that I could have slept with at least several of the girls the first night meeting them if I tried, and there were 2 that I’m absolutely positive about, because they basically told me they wanted to get laid.
So the “lets get to know each other and see where it goes” conclusion could probably be revised to a “let’s start getting to know each other and give me a reason so that we can get together.”
nbully, that’s a great guess, and I was actually thinking about adding a couple of the components in your concentration, because I think it could possibly make it even stronger, but it’s not quite on target.
I really believe that this will be released as an MX soon though, and everyone will have the chance to scoop it up.
Come on GQ and Attractor, give it a shot and give the mix your blessings too, and maybe it will move quicker towards pre-release.
I have intentionally been staying clear of this post, being as controversial as it is, but just wanna say a couple things…
SteveO, your report totally made my day the first time I read it, I litterally have read it about 4 times since the original post date.
Another thing is, Like Elevation said, I really agree that the Mods are doing an absolutely phero-nominal (sorry) job keeping the forums cleaned up. Don’t hardly see any trolling going on. Props.
Mark - I was pumped to read your hit stories as well, confirming SteveO’s mix. It was sweet. Cant wait to hear more. I kinda wish I knew more about the Putatives after i read this so i could start doing the same kinda stuff, i dont think im expierenced enough…‘yet’… ![]()
Tisha, props to you too - your the Angel of the forums you terrific mod you!
Just a little booster of verbal instant shine this post is :o)
Forgive me I am hung-over and feel the urge to crawl up and DIE!
Nbully and Mark; this is the fifteenth or so revision to this mix with many components added and then dropped. I am not a fan of P79, as I just can’t find my sweet spot. I kept at this mix until I got it where it worked consistently every time. Go ahead and add stuff if you must, but I probably have already and then took it back out.
SO last night, after two straight days of TAC. I was really in the mood for some Ammo as it’s been awhile and she is like an old friend, but it’s too hard to pull away from something like this mix.
My friend and I were going downtown and seeing that it was cold out there was nothing going on. We ended up going to a bar in midtown area.
I’ll be back in a minute. I need advil!
Here’s my experimental Sexy Substitute Mix which is likely a poor substitute for steveo’s (since I didn’t have all the ingredients)!
First I apply one drop unscented a7 (approx 25mcg -none and 4.2mcg -Androsterone), followed by one drop of l-s A314. Then after 15 minutes I apply half of the following mix which is combined beforehand as follows:
1 spray P96 @2.5mcg
1 spray P74 @2.5mcg
1 spray P83 @12.5mcg
I spray TOGO Instant Honesty (1x strength)
2 sprays TOGO Instant Honesty (2x strength)
1 spray Instant Female Magic
4 sprays Burberry London
Just hope you get some results with this.. I only tried it once!
The Instant Honesty could be combined most likely I guess…but that’s how I ended up mixing anyway..
Instead of TAC I’m using a combination of P96, P74 and P83 essentially.
not quite on target, huh! After Steveo’s post, I will drop the P79 and maybe replace it with P93. Is it close?
Ooh …maybe a pinch of MEO-EST for that purported “take over the room vibe” mentioned by Pheroquirk or how about that TAH/TAA for making women feel wonderful around you…hmmm…ok I think I should stop guessing now, anyone else want to take a shot!![]()
Let me take a shot at this too. Was it something related to asking your sexual orientation, probably from too much TAH/TAL in your approximate mix?
Close…not quite, huh…huh???![]()
Yea, but it wasn’t TAH or TAL. I gotta say though, that you are intuitive.
So, this means, to me, that the secret compound with the 5 mcg maximum is possibly TAL, folks.![]()
Ladies and gents, we are getting close!
And Steveo and Mark please don’t feel in any way that I am trying to corner you, it’s just a game the rest of us are playing. Ok, so in the spirit of guessing, here is my modified suggestion:
None: 5 mcg
TAC: 5 mcg
Beta-Androstenol: 5 mcg
P74: 5 mcg
TAA: 2.5 mcg
P93: 1.5 mcg
TAA now replaces TAH/TAL based on some excellent gay attractant reports about it from our beloved MarkL.
I just don’t feel comfortable including P90 or P92 from mark-in-dallas’ arsenal given the lack of reports on these. Anyone else have a strong case in favor of any other molecule from Mark’s collection, given our discussion so far?
Any comments on the dosages?
Close, but not quite.
It wasn’t TAA that SteveO warned me about. And, I thought TAA was more like an unrefined Instant Shine?
Well, okay.
And Marks available supply list says
TAA-15 and 25mcg
TAH-5mcg
TAL-5mcg
So, maybe Mark’s dilution problem, with the maximum level allowed for one of the 3 secret ingredients, was with TAA, because Mark only has higher concentrations of TAA?
Mark, thanks for playing along.
So now no TAA/TAH/TAL! Hmm..I just recalled few posts from Examine about P90 (although I am not very sure, too lazy to search) about it’s smooth qualities…(smooth = gay. NOT. but what the hell I am running out of ideas
). And seeing that Mark decided to get it at a relatively high concentration of 25 mcg/spray, I will prefer it over P92 which he bought at 12.5 mcg/spray. So here goes…
Revision no. 3
None: 5 mcg
TAC: 5 mcg
Beta-Androstenol: 5 mcg
P74: 5 mcg
P90: 1.5 mcg
P93: 2.5 mcg
Am I going away or getting close?
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Edit: This will be my final guess, if anyone wants to keep playing they are welcome, but I am offcially out of ideas. Cheers!![]()
I need to get my hands first on needed components to finish making SteveO’s concoction.
Wonderful report Mark! It seems the mix have proved itself consistently and earned its worth to be used numerous times now. Of course I’ll update all once I have all the ingredients and I have my batch of Steveo’s mix. For those who want to know how I was able to get the components of the mix; my set of attorneys have spoken with Steveo’s attorneys and we’ve agreed on a private deal. Pheromafia anyone? ![]()
The products that Mark might have the most problem in diluting include:
TAA-15 and 25mcg (Mark says this may or may not be in the mix)
P79-50 mcg (Steveo implies it’s not this one)
P83-50mcg (Mark implies it’s not this - but, now that we know the recipe, I think it was probably the P83)
P90-25mcg
So, you’re saying you won’t be providing any special personal favors for Steve?![]()
GQ, nbully, and Nancysboy: It has been a lot of fun watching you guys figure out this mix. Keep it up.
Reps to all three of ya!