Ok just a quick question...

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I was thinking earlier today i want a phero that literally takes care of everything. Making people feel welcome, smile, be happy around me as well as making me a noticeable respectable guy who stands out and atrracts girls to him. So then i got onto pheros that i could personally mix together to make the ultimate mix.

For Instance soon i will have all of the following:

Ammo
Instant Openness
Instant Honesty
Instant Shine
Turn up the heat
A314
Dirty
Instant female magic
Instant gentlemen
Raw Power

Hopefully by the end of june all these will be mine. Apart from the obvious worry of OD on the -none in there (which ones have -none) would there be anything wrong with literally mixing them ALL together (maybe missing a few out to reduce the -none) to make like an ULTIMATE phero?
I assume there are plenty of good reasons why this has not been done yet but i was just wondering so thought i would post the question!

Thanks

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Actually I think just about everybody does this at first, we call it the “Newbie Baptism”. Well maybe not ALL of those. :slight_smile: If you get a feel for each product by itself you’ll see that most of the time one or two will accomplish what you want and any more than that is a waste of expensive pheromones.

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Renny speaks truth here. We always try to encourage newbies to try the products seperately, but human nature being what it is, sometimes you just have to see for yourself.

Your list contains pretty much everything you need to put together the combo that will help create that ultimate mix you described, but just remember, congruency is key. You have to act out the pheromones, in essence, in order to really benefit from them.

-None overdose is definitely a concern at your age, so here’s what I’d suggest you wear for your ultimate mix:

2 drops of A314. This will be your foundation with regard to respect. 2 sprays of Instant Openness will help get people to warm up to you. 2 sprays of Instant Honesty will help break through the layers of pretense that may come up. 2 sprays of Instant Shine will lighten the mood and keep people smiling. 1 spray of Ammo to steer the whole thing towards a sexual angle, without being so “in your face” sexual as would be the case with TUTH or Raw Power.

Things to remember: 1. Self effects. Sometimes Instant Honesty will work on you as much as everyone else, so if you like to keep yourself a bit guarded, limit the sprays to either the back of your neck or below the elbows. This will keep the pheros in your “cloud”, rather than going up your own nose and making you overly chatty. Shine is okay to indulge on, so feel free to spray that on your neck. A314’s self effects are generally positive and help with giving yourself a confident feeling. In fact, wherever you apply it, if you have a residue of it left on a finger, rub it above your upper lip.

I cannot overstress, however, that your attitude and personality is going to be the steering factor. For example, it doesn’t matter how much IShine you wear, if you come across as a big asshole, you’ll only be remembered as such. Really think about what it is you’re trying to say with your pheromone signature and do your best to embody it naturally without seeming fake. It’s easier said than done, which brings me back to a main reason why we like to encourage newbies to try each one out seperately.

If you try this out, do post your results as completely as you can. We can point out where you went right, where you may have gone wrong, and ways to improve. Good luck!

-D4

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Use them individually at first, then you learn what they do. Really, Androtics is pretty good about the descriptions, so you don’t have to do this so much, but it is good to learn what they do specificly for you. The best place to do this is going shopping or getting coffee, and just trying to interact with people. Study peoples reactions and body language, use about 2 sprays to get an idea what they do.

The only ones I’d say “don’t do this” with are Dirty, Raw Power, and Turn Up the Heat. They will produce mostly negative reactions in general social situations, so use with care (people will give you odd looks, as if you are wierd, an animal or beast… women may be shocked if you walk by them, etc.- this doesn’t indicate sexual interest, though. Rarely a woman may give you a “wow” look and check you out, esepcially an older woman (I’ve had this happen a few times- it’s flattering but it doesn’t mean alot in itself). They contain androstenone, which is a very sexual/aggressive pheromone, and isn’t in itself “approachable”. Use them carefully in social situations.

A314 I’ve never tried, but the spray version I have and it is said to be far more blatant and tends to make people pay REAL attention to you, give you alot of space, but they also will not approach you as much. I’m not a big fan, but A314 in low doses seems to be a popular base for alot of people. A314 is largely a “work” pheromone mix, and also used for giving off the impression you have more status, to attract other “VIP’s” and “high status” people. Too much will turn off people who believe they have low status, or people who are shy. Many people act timid/placating around me when I wear this sort of thing, and I don’t always find that a good thing.

Ammo is a social pheromone mix. Never tried it, but I’ve tried similar products from other companies. They all give general social vibes with only a hint of sexuality, and tend to work well in general social situations, provided your body language and behavior is congruent with your pheromone signature.

I will say that Instant Shine and Instant Gentleman cannot be spoken of highly enough. They really have few downsides and are safe in many situations.

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Wow you guys are very helpful! Thanks! :smiley:
Just a few questions, Should -none based products only be used when in a club or bar environment at my age?
I have not purchased Raw power or dirty yet although i was going to, due to my age would you advise against this and tell me to spend my money with other pheros?

I generally want a mix for clubs and bars but then a separate one for the day when say i might be taking a girl to lunch. In these two situations could you point me towards the general pheros that are good for the individual situations, this will help with my testing and will also hopefully stop me offending some people!

Finally i have a journal which i started today, it can be found at the following link, Any feedback i have i will post on there (that is the right way to do it yes?) then i will have all my tests in one place!

Lj’s Journal

Thanks again :slight_smile:

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I thnk Ammo is safe enough to use, but yeah, you’re already producing -none on your own so you want to play it safe on other -none products. Ammo is balanced enough that you could even get away with wearing 1 shot of it to work, as long as it’s the 1x strength. Otherwise, yeah, reserve it for clubbing or any other situation where you’re trying to hook up. For that matter, maybe even get a to-go of TUTH, and use it conservatively.

It’s also suggested that you try to OD on -none at least once so you see what can happen. Do it in a situation where you won’t risk your job or otherwise get yourself in too much trouble.

As for taking a girl to lunch, again, 1 shot of Ammo with something like Instant Shine would do well. 2 drops of A314 will round it out nicely.

-D4

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My OD:

Black men give you wierd looks, whereas before they ignored you. “Huh… you don’t look black? WTF!” I was seriouly wearing so much -none I smelled drenched in it, yet nobody commented on the smell, ever- even when I was 3 feet away from them (granted, I can smell none easily, and many can’t). But lots of people noticed.

It is good to try once, but just once. And have on your running shoes just in case. :smiley: It is easy to OD with pure -none products, or more common, have it build up. Eventually you will smell -none easily, no doubt, and a good general rule of thumb- if you start smelling you just aren’t in the same body, maybe a different race, that’s probably too much.

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sometimes using a single product (or one or two products) is more effective than mixing all these products together, i learnt this from reading all the posts about peoples experience.

a lot of people (especially newbies) mix a lot of products together because they are too eager to try everything and want to get the best of every products, ended up not getting any results, but when they cut back to one product, increase the dosage, they see results.

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I am assuming you mean mix in the same bottle.

The products you listed are stand alone products. Yes members know basically what the predominate mones are in them but not all of the mones.

They are balanced and buffered and not made for mixing in the same bottle. This can throw off the balance of the product rendering it useless.

Layering the product gives you more control and dosnt upset the balance.

Keep in mind that the word MIX in this forum means to layer products.

The word composite is used when they mean to mix more then one mone in a bottle.

Unless someone is very clear when explaining what they did always assume they mean layer or clearify it with them.

Alot of people have wasted expensive bottles of mones this way.

Now if you want to composite a mix of your own thats encouraged and we hope that you share results here on the forum. Putatives and experimones are designed for this purpose.

I suggest what you do is this. Learn as much as you can about the above listed products. Use them and see which ones work the best for you and at what dose. Then when you have all that info compiled take a look at the experimone section and get the single molecules and mix with those

There are members who do composite with the above listed products with varying results. They are your mones after all, I just dont want to see you waste them. :wink:

Tisha