Old enough to know better, but young enough to do it anyway Here to try mones

That’s “newbie” not “newfie” for you Canucks out there!

Age: Old enough to know better, but young enough to do it anyway… Yah, o.k., but what did you expect? Didn’t your mommy ever teach you it’s not nice to ask an adult how close to death^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H old they are? :wink:

Seriously? I’m 45. Yep, hard to believe, isn’t it? Mid-life crisis arriving right on schedule![0]

Sex: Yes, please!

Oh, wait: you probably meant I should post my gender! Male. Definitely, positively male. Never had any doubts about that since before kindergarten. With the rare exceptions of my friends, I generally find other males irritating or abrasive on some level. Grrrr. Probably why I have so few friends [but they’re all ‘real’ friends, worth more than gold!]

General location: Lo-Cal So.Cal., where the money is plastic & the people are too! Specifically, southern Orange County.[3]

Work: I like to say “I work for a large multi-national research conglomerate” which anyone familiar w/ the real world will instantly realize “Oh, he means a University.” Universities aren’t about education folks, they’re about making money from basic research; the education cover is just a scam. :wink:
Specifically, I work in the campus library; no, I’m not a librarian, I don’t have an MLS.

About me: I’m built on the LES plan[4], but never broke 200# until well into my 30s. Just woke up after spending the last 8 years or so in a daze, spinning my wheels in an ever-deepening rut.[5] Anyway, I’m determined to make some serious, permanent life-changing alterations in my habits. I’m already working on a daily exercise regimen[7], and expanding my options. I work in an environment where I’m constantly surrounded by fabulous young hard bodies, but can’t even really chat them up[9] due to the extremist P.C. atmosphere of academia. OTOH, I greatly wish to expand my opportunities for personal interaction when not on the clock, and since I’ve never been one for the bar scene or clubbing[10], and quite frankly have never had anything even remotely resembling “game” (sigh)[11], I’m very intrigued by the possibilities represented by 'mones.

I tried some really dreadful “pheromone cologne” back when this stuff first started hitting the mass market in the early 90s: I say “dreadful” because I’m very sensitive to artificial scents, bordering on allergic, and of course, a cheap cologne that had some pheromone and HUGE markup added to it was just a really bad idea for me. Hopefully, my experiences now what with all the advances in the intervening years and the availability of “unscented” versions will allow me to mix up a combo of 'mones and EO that I can wear w/o aggravating myself and have some results that can’t be written off as “placebo f/x.”

I’ve already learned a lot about the current state of the market from reading posts here in just the last few days, and am looking forward to having some positive f/x on my life and surroundings when I start applying that knowledge that everyone here has so kindly shared. Thanks!

From what I’ve read so far, I figure I’m going to turn out to be a huge user of Shine, and will almost certainly be a regular user of a314[13] for work meetings. The future definitely looks fragrant for me! :cool:

Gotta blaze,

Bruce

[0] - Actually, since most people have a life-expectancy of 70 or so, “mid-life crises” should begin around 35, but whatever. [1]
[1] - I come from long-lived folk; my LE is around 90.[2]
[2] - Barring unwarrantable circumstances like shark bite, bear attack and the random hazards of proximity to children under 5.
[3] - Just found out there’s an OC New York a year or so back when that cable show w/ the idiot father & son chopper builders got so popular. Who knew? Guess that’s just what I get for growing up in CA… and riding real motorcycles…
[4] - “Large, Economy Size.” Among my kind, when some irksome midget asks “What’s the weather like up there?” we like to spit & reply “It’s raining…” :smiley: Seriously, after spending your adult life banging your head on stuff that some idiot hung up just above eye level, or squeezing into some moron’s idea of “adequate seating,” you begin to lose your patience w/ this nonsense.
[5] - Question: “How do you tell the difference btw being ‘in the groove’ vs. ‘stuck in a rut?’” Answer: “Try to think of changing direction…” [6]
[6] - This being one of the sagest modern musings I’ve come across…unfortunately, I’m now contemplating its sagacity on a daily basis!:open_mouth:
[7] - Man, this stuff never used to be so hard! I never had to worry about putting on weight, could eat all the candy, cookies, ice cream whatever & just rely on my smokin’ metabolism to just burn it all away. Now it’s frickin’ work, and time-consuming to boot.[8]
[8] - And thanks to my shiftless sibs and dead-beat gf, time is one thing in very short supply for me. :angry:
[9] - nor do I often much want too; even the graduate students seem like infants nowadays! But there’s always the exceptional individual that makes all the rules worth breaking…
[10] - Not entirely true; one of my favorite, if not the favorite, past jobs was when I worked as a bartender. That side of the bar scene was fun! :slight_smile:
[11] - Discounting the absurdly large %age of older women that used to hover around me & go all squishy when I was in my late teens[12] & I didn’t know what the heck to do about it…
[12] - Undoubtedly due to the copious amounts of -none I must have been producing at that time in my life, in retrospect.
[13] - Maybe forestalling some of the gross mis-management I’m constantly exposed to by getting the higher ups to actually listen… for a change!

wow awesome intro. hello and welcome to the forums.

i’m adding rep for taking the time and energy to post it. hopefully you will add test reports and they will be even half as thorough as that.

so you tried another phero cologne? how long ago was it?

shine and A314 are excellent products with great track records, however there have been mixed reports about the smell lof shine (i happen to like it) but no mixed reports for A314. unless by mixed reports you mean does it smell like feet or ass or both.

it will have to be covered with something. hopefully you won’t have a negative reaction to Ammo, maybe you can try it in a to go bottle just to try it out. professionaly done , smells great and has a few tricks up its sleeve too.

if you are already pretty intimidating size wise, go easy on the A314 and try instant gentleman, or at least wear quite a bit of Shine with it so that you don’t repel people with your authoritative signature.

anyway, thanks for a great intro. see you around and good luck.

Hi Bruce, welcome to the forum!

That is quite an intro! Yeah, sounds like Shine and A314 will be perfect for you. As Josef suggested, you should also consider Ammo, in your case, you would need Heavy Ammo (2x strength) because you’re over 40 years old and your pheromone production is likely on the low side.

Read the sticky threads in the Men’s section for useage instructions.

Good luck here…

Hello Bruce, welcome to PheroTalk. Hopefully you’ll be able to find exactly what you want here. Like the others said, Instant Shine will be very helpful for you since it can give you that youthful aura that will make the girls look twice. I personally like to mix it with Ammo, but that’s just me. I never really tried A314 but from what I heard, it seems to be a very excellent product.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Bruce baby - your already making me laugh. I would be concerned about the sharks down in LA too.

But what about the bears - the real ones…not too many of those in the city I guess. I hale from Santa Barbara, and a couple other places I call work and home.

I am interested in reading your reports when you start using. One product I get very interesting results from is IH x4…I usually write about those in my journal, A Phero State of Mind.

Glad you are here with us…let’s have some fun!

Thanks for the welcome, everyone! Very kind words, & much appreciated.

Josef: the other phero cologne I tried was well over 10 years ago. Unfortunately, I can’t recall what it was called, & I tossed the remaining 1/2 bottle years ago when I realized that no matter how effective it might be[1], I just couldn’t tolerate wearing it. To put this in perspective: I still have some Ralph Lauren Polo that an ex- bought for me well over 20 years ago because it was the only cologne at the time that I had shown the inclination to wear and the capacity to tolerate on myself.[2] Same gf used to make fun of me 'cause I used women’s shaving cream[3] - because the toiletry manufacturers figure women don’t care how their legs smell, & don’t want a product to clash w/ whatever scent they may choose, whereas the products targeting the male market have heavier perfume components[4].

Thanks for the advice, I’ll post results when I have some testing experience to relate…

Ciao,

Bruce

[1] - or might not; remember, I never got any definitive results from it that couldn’t be explained away by my own “I’m wearing my Superman boxers!” mindset…

[2] - & of course, she liked it, which is why she bought it for me.

[3] - It’s all marketing, they used the same ingredients as the men’s, it’s just a different label & different added scents.

[4] - Because men generally have a poorer sense of smell than women & other reasons.

Hello Bruce

Welcome to Pherotalk :wink:

Wow what a great intro, I dont know where to start LOL

Thats great because they will fit right in with the “new you” your creating.

This has me slightly concerned. Nothing is cheap here. They use all high end cover scents. Unscented means no cover not no scent. The scent that they use has a purpose. You need to be able to diffuse the scent and create sillage.

Mixing is done with the raw experimones and you need to know what your doing. Your not going to be able to successfully mix consumer products with a EO or cologne without messing with the effectiveness of the mones. Those are perfectly balanced with the correct amount of carrier to mone ratio. Experimental mixes and the consumer products are more made for layering. So you would apply them then wait 10 minutes to cover. What kind of allergic reaction do you get?

What is your objective for mone use ? This will help alot in pointing your to what will fit your needs.

Your GC is on its way but I am looking forward to your reply :wink:

Tisha

I apologize if my comments about the propensity for mass market men’s products to be over-scented seemed negative wrt Androtics products: that was not at all intended! To clarify: I would expect a company like Androtics, dedicated to the effective use of subtle aromatics like pheromones to be especially sensitive to the masking fragrances used in conjunction with their primary product (the pheromones.) This is opposed to the other products out there which seek to enhance their profitability by adding some pheromone to an otherwise inexpensive mix of petroleum distillates from an industrial perfumery [ie, the stuff I tried in the past.]

To allay your concerns, I don’t expect to dive into the deep end of mixing my own experimentals right off the bat! I plan to buy one or two proven products [initially, 'Shine & 314] before worrying about expanding my horizons. & thank you for the heads-up that the Androtics “unscented” means truly no added scents & not non-odorous; when I wrote about trying “unscented” use I was thinking more about the use of the term wrt underarm deodorant [which even in the “unscented” products have some very light added scenting.]

My own “scent-sitivity” to most perfumes exhibits in the mode of someone with hayfever: itchy eyes & nose, with irritation of the nose to the point of nosebleed in some instances. Some nominally high-end products will produce these results, altho’ that’s usually due to the user not knowing how to dose them “bathing” in them - overkill], while less expensive products are, well, just plain bad “you get what you pay for” seems to be esp. true in the perfume biz!] The good thing about this physical liability? limitation? attribute is that once you break a gf of using too much/too cheap perfume, she’s generally excited by the fact that you like her smell. Downside is that I can’t tolerate smokers very well at all; even the traces of burnt tobacco on their clothes is off-putting. [Unburnt tobacco is great smell tho’; witness my use of Polo, above…]

Looking forward to sharing my results w/ the rest of the forum!

Gotta blaze

Welcome to the forum.

Looks like you are heading in the right direction.

You really are in the right place to do some testing. We have others here who are in university settings and they have done quite well …