That would be great! I have 2x IO and 2x IH and would appreciate a user who has the OG CTTM2 to compare there effectiveness… I don’t have CTTM either 1 or 2… 
I could try out the 2x IO and 2x IH and just report on the responses as well… though, your POV would be good! 
Actually, I’ll try it out as well tonight as I’m going out to meet up with some friends I haven’t seen in a while… I’ll report back!
Damn you!!! You’ve gotten me all riled up with this CTTM2 business!!! 
Ok, I went with 2x IO and 2x IH with one spritz to the top of each hand before I went out to meet some old friends and some new ones…It was about 1/2 hour after application, indoors, @ 78F…
(I had to make a quick call before going out, about 10 minutes after application. I spoke with a coworker on the phone and I apologized for calling him up this late… I told him that he’s probably thinking, man, doesn’t 1Alpha ever give me a break?!? And he said, he said that’s fine… and I responded, OK, so that’s fine… I guessed what you were thinking?! in a joking tone. The IO and IH were making me bubbly and saying what I was thinking…)
Now, some people I knew would be all hugs and hi’s to me and my A. Both of us were receiving the normal salutations… but, one gal, single, sometimes will get annoyingly close and will do this when my A isn’t around. This time, A and I were together and the funny thing was this gal, thin mid 30’s hispanic, after saying hi and all, was about to walk away and sort of did a double take and wanted to continue to talk to me. I noticed that her lower body was rotated away from me, like she was going to walk away but her upper body and face were directed to me while she made small talk. I thought we were done with the hi’s and she was piling on the praises and wishing to see me/us again, can’t you stay longer… type of comments… then, says hope to see you both again soon. She was all smiles and wanted to spend more time but I could tell that she was torn because my A was there and the IH/IO had her in it’s clutches..
A couple that I haven’t seen in a long time were talking out of there elbows… Even the wives, who may have been normally just a hi how you doing, with the polite wait for an answer, were yappin’ away… Normally, my A is a naturally producing IO machine… but this combo had her going double time as well as those around us. Even though she wasn’t wearing mones, we were together for most of the night so she was operating in my mone wake.
For some I found that I didn’t know very well or not at all, I’d have to spend some time with them and ask them questions to get the convo’s going. It didn’t come to them automatically. I’d have to push a bit to get things going. But, even then, occasionally, I recall about 3 times, even this didn’t have an effect. This was with a couple of guys and a gal that I didn’t know.
My A in the car was smiling and open with me about my convo’s and this gal that was paying me a bit more attention than she likes. She also knows that she’s a big flirt and was saying it was funny the way she was acting tonight.
I also have Betanol and Alphanol… how many sprays of this should I use to compare with the IO and IH…?
The combo works, but not all the time and will be hitting hard a few people… I also wonder if I increased to 2xIO2 as well as 2xIH2, what would happen?
Damn you, gentleman!!! You’ve gotten me all riled up with MORE questions on this CTTM2 business!!!
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I’m actually gonna try the IO X IH combo today in two venues. One personal / business venue, the other purely business at my Starbucks.
The interesting thing will be to see if at both locations when people SHOULD be walking away, they don’t.
Kinda like the one girl in your report who had the half turned away talking over her shoulder at you. I’ve had that with CTTM2 but some really blatant stuff too.
I know I already brought this up before, but the strangest effect I had seen was on my EX. She did not want to speak to me, we were split up and it was too soon to even try to have small talk. And she was fiending for a cig but the way she kept just following me around before her lunch break ended was bizarre. It really was like she didn’t know why.
Here is part of the report I posted:
I will report later on my IO X 2 + IH X 2 test today.
This is the report I titled that CTTM2 should come with a warning label.
I was just gonna suggest that.
Depends on what mcg dosage you have
Start off with equal ratios first then ramp it up to about 45-60mcg each per app. Try to find yoru sweet spot there. Also, body chem/personality may be different so playing with the ratios of anol:bnol you might find a better substitute than CTTM.
I have 20 mu ea. So, I can give this a go… I’ll see what results I have with these…
Thx P!
I tend to get opened more using IS/IO rather than IH/IO… Granted I haven’t used the combo of IH/IO alone that often or CTTM1 or 2 at all. So really shouldn’t even be commenting on this thread. I’m guessing the IH adds to the length of coversations by adding comfort to the chattiness of IO. The CTTM products seem to be redundant IMO due to the ease of combining the Instant Line and coming up with a better suited for “me” version of CTTM
I have this wild idea. GorMas202 may have touch something in one of his recent posts. I’ve never tried the UF pack so I’m going on a limb here.
UF Test pack + a little none + IS = CTTM3?
ODG
Just a quick report on my IO + IH test.
In both scenarios I wore 2 sprays of each (30ml bottles) and quite honestly, today was the worst day I’ve seen in “hits” in a long time.
Scenario 1: Business and Personal
Application time: 7:30 AM
I arrived there about an hour later 8:30 am, sat in the lobby for about 1/2 an hour with strangers sitting right next to me. There is a TV monitor playing the movie Bewitched and as the movie was playing I would make comments to the others in the lobby but no one seemed interested in engaging.
There is an agent who I have had some connection with but apparently she was not in that morning so I had to speak with someone else. I engaged him a number of times and quite honestly he seemed a bit distant and didn’t reengage me at all.
Scenario 2: Work @ Starbucks Inside Grocery Store
Reapplication Time: 2 sprays each at 1:15 shift started at 1:30
This time around I was really chatty, every now and then I’d realize how “chatty” I was being.
A supervisor wanted to log my charity hours for our store report, so I stood really close to her for a good 10 minutes every now and then leaning in real close to her face and nada, zilch. She logged my info and never said another word.
There is a really hot rocker chick that’s another supervisor and she’s in a check stand. I’ve been at this location for a month, but she and I have had a few discussions already about topics that interest us. She’s engaged me a few times and has shown some definite IOI’s, but she’s locked in with a man at the moment.
I made sure to cut through the opening next to her check stand on my way to the back and say “hi.” She just turned and looked at me, never said a word and went back to work.
One of my only two good hits came from a Starbucks Co-Workers. We had a really good talk about human behavior, philosophy etc. He’s 18 and going to college.
My 2nd good hit came from a 17 year old emo girl who works as a courtesy clerk.
She’s the only young girl working in our store and I always tease her as she’s walking by. Today she approaches me and starts to chat me up about something when she notices my last name… it is really cool BTW. and she tells me she wants a “bomb ass” last name like mine.
Now Jail Bait starts to hang around a bit more than normal. Usually she just passes by and makes comments. At first I thought today she was hanging out because of the 18 year old kid I’m working with but he is now off.
She starts to make comments like “you’re the best,” etc. A bit of harmless teasing is one thing, but yeah I don’t want this to progress any further so I now go into shut down mode and stay busy and just give the occasional head nod as she passes by and makes comments.
I’ve been down this road before, had two 16 year girls chase me one summer at my first store and even though I never did a thing all the women in our store gave me shit about it.
I think today I’m gonna try it again at work, I’m gonna go with 4 sprays of each to mimic 2 sprays of 2x each.
I’ve has About the Same Experience as Gentleman… I’ve had Plenty of Hits (more so then Normal even with Mones)… However they have been from a Younger Age Group, Mainly 17-23 is what I’ve Seen… This has Been over the Course of Afew Days… Find a Way to Move that Age Group Up just a Tad and I’ll be Fine…
Hence the reason CTTM was discontinued and thanks for reaffirming our suspicions. It’s obsolete and just didn’t work like io and IH adjusted to meet the individuals need.
Ok, I tried the betanol and alphanol to compare with my IO and IH application and here it is…
When trying b nol and A nol, @ 40 mu each to the top of the wrists and hands. I got some of similar hits as the IO and IH… but, I also got some ‘breaks’ in the good times… An example, talking about the Lakers and the game with several people, many whom I just met at the clients office… relaxed and talkative atmosphere. Several were joining in to the convo. BUT, as soon as a lull… crickets… almost like everyone decided to just shut it at the same time… I had to pick up the slack at those times to jump start the convo’s again… once pushed back into place, things were good until the next train stop… more like a sudden jolt, a quick petering out… like some last minute spurts of the convo and then nothing!
This continued throughout my conference with these people. Spurts of good times and laughs… then, silence…
Tried it at another time with similar results. The second time was at 60 mu each to the same application points. Happy, fun, open then, SILENCE! Push the convo and… start the chatting up again!!
Not as smooth as the IO and IH or continuous… this gave me some sharp increase in fun convos, not all deep or serious… that would plateau then… drop like a rock! I’d need to push things along…
I’m gonna have to try the b / a nol test myself. I would today, but I’ve got bosses coming in so its an A314 kinda day.
Hmm… I would have to disagree with this Steve. The reason being that whatever formula was used for CTTM2 etc was balanced in a way that worked exactly as claimed. Sure its nice to tailor something to your needs. I can go out and buy the material, and a sewing machine and make a pair of pants, but it may not look quite the same as something store bought.
IO and IH may have the same steering molecules, but maybe at different ratios in CTTM 2 than a 50/50 combo. Hell I don’t know, I’m not privy to all the info you guys have. All I know is that shit worked like magic at times.
LOL! I knew that would get to you. I’m so bad at times, I slay me
I’ve used the IO + IH 50/50 Mix Three Times Now and All Three Times I had Rather Strong Hits… Just that Mix and Nothing Else was Used… Same Location each Time Different People Mostly (afew Double Hits)… So far it’s a Winner… I May have to Buy the x2 Version of Both and Mix it Up in a Spare Bottle Since I have a Growing Collection of Little Cobalt Bottles…
LOL ass
So true with the results I have noticed with CTTM 2. I have tried the 50/50 of IH & IO, because it’s supposed to be the formula to make CTTM 2, however, the results were nowhere the same, and were disappointing. I do agree in that AD should bring it back, for I too was sold right from the beginning with CTTM 2. If the original CTTM 2 ever does comes back into production, I surely would buy a couple of bottles to stock up for the long term.
It is true that people in general will chat your ears off, but in the right situation, it does work great in getting women, as well as groups of women talking to you, and at times, it seemed women could not wait their turn to talk to me. Once you get them talking, you can basically get them to talk about anything , without them feeling the least bit of resistance. It’s just a great way to know anything and everything about women I’m interested in pursuing…
I just hope AD will someday bring this (CTTM 2) great classic back to life.
Have you tried the mx405-407 mixes yet? I’ve had STELLAR hits on these that surprise me a ton.
IO by itself had people coming to me when I had mx297 with it. When I tried mx405 with a314 and instant shine I had an almost verbal diarrhea in a professional setting.
I even went to a bar afterwards and had similar effects with people around me. Absolutely wonderful.
Give it a go sometime you might like the effect.