Out of my depth...please help

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I just got my mones (newbie kit) about 4 days ago and I have been experimenting with them. The first day I just used one spray of a314 1.29b to my upper chest throat area and went to work. The effects were incredibly drastic from how things are normally at my job. With just one spray nobody looked me in the face, even my supervisors.

I used instant gentleman, ammo, and instant openness the next day and I got amazing self effects but not nearly the same amount of gravitas as I did with a314.

Here is where it gets a little troublesome, yesterday I wore a314 along with IH and IS, women were constantly grooming themselves around me and making sure they were put together and guys didn’t look me in the face.

When I went out later that night to a nightclub I did a refresher of IS, IH, and added some IO plus a shot of TUTH. After about 4 hrs I sprayed another shot of TUTH on my forearms and rubbed them together.

I got what I would have to describe as a ghost/OD effect but at the same time the few women that I did talk to were showing IOI’s.

I wouldn’t expect that from just 2 sprays of 1xTUTH. Now I’m reading that -none stays on your skin for a long time sometimes days, and if that is the case this could pose a problem for me when I go to work.

Also, I don’t want to switch up my sig too much because I’ve read that people will just ignore you altogether. I would really appreciate any guidance that any of the experts here would like to offer.

What sort of mix should I be wearing regularly at work if I want to convey an alpha presence that tells the women there I’m not the friend type, but also encourages a sense of openness?

And at bars how do I do convey this same presence without ghosting?

Some details about me are I’m 27, African American, very physically fit (6’0 204lbs BF is under 10%) as far as workout supplements I take 7-keto, alpha-lipoic acid, green tea extract and a pre workout supplement called GAT Nitriflex, said to up your testosterone

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Hello,

Yes it can, especially for a young guy working out regularly and taking testosterone supplements. 2x Tuth may or may not be too much for you.

How about you try washing the spot where you applied it? Try scrubbing with soap. eNone is a bit.ch sometimes and won’t go off…

Also generally if you want to refresh eNone, wash off the old one first.
I personally recommend spraying it somewhere where it can’t stick to your clothes, like I use to spray it just below my chin so it won’t touch my shirt. It’s down to personal preferences.

Don’t worry about that too much. It’s important to experiment and find the right stuff for you.

From what you’ve got, A314 and IS. It’s a very popular mix. Depending on what your work is about and if you want a deep connection to your co-workers and maybe customers, add some IH.

Try less Tuth. You will possibly get ghosted with 1 spray as well, then try one half spray. I doubt your sweet spot for Tuth is at less than one spray, but one never knows. Been there, seen it all :slight_smile:

A314 in high dosage is popular in bars. Add in one spray of Tuth.

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When starting with A314 at work, you can often get responses just like this - You colleagues pick-up on your new status signature and simply do not know how to take it. They can feel threatened (esp bosses/supervisors), or that they need to compete with you, or that they should not be bothering you with the little things in ways that suggest you are not quite the same guy they knew before.

So you may need to be a little proactive here and make the effort to interact and demonstrate you are still the same guy as before but better and that it is still good to relate to you in all the right ways.

Following an A314 application with IO is very likely to amount to nothing as those two pretty much kill each other stone dead. I tend to use IH/IS instead for a better quality conversation vibe and it still moderates TUTH effectively but without detracting from the A314.

Ad yes, I agree that it does sound like OD on the TUTH - Pull the dose back and look at better moderations, or wash the A314 off altogether before using the IO.

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Thanks guys. I read that glycerin helps to take off -none so I used some on my forearms and it did the trick.

Mysterion at 1 spray of a314 people don’t look me in the eye…at high doses I couldn’t even fathom a scenario like that let alone what it would be like with TUTH in the mix.

Mobo, I have the newbie kit so all my products are to-go bottles. Is there any way to apply less than one spray?

And also I’m thinking about going with a314 IS and IH to work. How do you think this will affect 18-30 year old women? and do you have any advice on app amounts for these 3?

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Is that a problem for you? People naturally can’t look me in the eyes for long before quickly turning their head towards the ground. That’s an alpha vibe, and if you don’t like that I don’t think A314 is what you’re looking for.
Esp. if they can’t look you in the eyes for long or at all, it’s a sign that they have great respect for you (or serious psychological issues) and with that comes attraction from women.
However 1 spray may as well be enough, I only know about oil dosages, and when you want to use it for seduction, you use it in high dosages.

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What I was getting at was the seriousness of the vibe, is a314 a good one to wear to parties or clubs to pick up women? At this point in time I don’t see it

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A314 can be tricky here and IME it depends a lot on the ages of the women concerned and the situation.

For me, an A314/TUTH mix generally works very well in clubs around 30+ women, where its mature, determined, high status and very straight-up sexual nature is well accepted.

However, around younger ones - mid-late 20s and below, the same mix is likely to backfire badly as it is just too much, too serious and/or too horny. Around these, a broader, more social, engaging and lighter sexual signature can be much better. Also the lighter, more youthful and social status of IG - very viable. TUTH is still usable in clubs and uninhibited places but moderated with the likes of IO or IO/IS or IH/IS. Ammo with a small amount of A314 is also a good one as its severity is moderated by lighter, more social pheros.

And saying that, yes - you do occasionally find exceptions either way at any age, which can be utterly confounding but all part of the learning process.

Yes, with a bit of practice and finger control, you can get a reasonable half spray out of a togo.