I have a314 bottle to-go spray and I have been using it from time to time, but with no effects and sometimes almost opposite of desired effect.
Yesterday I put 2 sprays to my neck to do another try and two things happened that got me thinking:
-lunch time at work - I tried to be bossy (I never did this before) and got mocked for it
-evening at a sports club - prime minister has his daughter training there and enters office to ask something. I was doing something at the computer and barely noticed him. He gets in and give me a handshake (there were other people in the office that he knows, but he chose to greet me first)
I think that, maybe a314 works best on a “blank paper” - on someone that doesn’t know you, and that you can’t change perception (at least not instantly) of yourself on someone who knows you well (friends, coworkers, lovers,…)
Hey, that’s an interesting observation, and I have been thinking about the same issue myself. Here’s why;
I’ve been slowly building up a relationship with a woman at work; we’ve known each other for 4 years, but the “spark” only happened about 4 months ago.
That means we know each other extremely well.
I’ve just got my first lot of mones, and I’ve been thinking about how to use them. We’ve got our first proper dinner date next week, and I’m aiming to get her along to some salsa dancing lessons soon.
Now, I’ve got Instant Shine, Ammo Summer Edition, and TUTH.
What do you think might happen if I turn up at work on Monday drenched in TUTH? Not a good idea!
So, I reckon the best way to start up would be to use ONLY instant shine to kick off with. We usually have a blast at work anyway, loads of banter and good-natured insults, but using 2 sprays of i.s. should add something to the mix.
But that’s all I want to do for starters. I don’t want to change my pheromone signature too quickly nor too massively, because she knows me SO well. Quite literally, I think she would smell a rat if if used any more than i.s. for starters.
BUT, I reckon I could add 1 spray to each wrist of Ammo S.E. for the evening dinner. But that’s all. Then back to i.s. alone for work the next day. Assuming good progress, I might add Ammo S.E. for work in a week or two.
Does this seem like a good plan?
And what about the TUTH? Save that for the salsa lessons? Or use 2x Ammo for that, and save the TUTH for afterwards?
Very interesting topic!
Incidentally, my sales receipt says “Ammunition Summer 2012 edition”, but the bottle just says “Ammunition”. Does the Summer Edition have a different label? Just wondering.
Yes, the judicious use of IShine, similar to what the OP depicts with A314 is very valuable. You DO need to be mindful of where and around whom you’re using the mones to make the best use of it. ALONG with you’re OWN self effects, if any. I occasionally forget this last point.
Like a couple of days ago, I use some Spaceland (No longer in production by AD) and I thought, wonder if a spray of this stuff will get people around me all yackity yack… Well, it did, but in a NEGATIVE way as the people around me were in a sour mood. Now, for my own SELF EFFECTS, I also started blabbering in the same sour way. I felt that I was IN MY right to say what I said, though, it was not respectful and others were offended by it. This was within the hour of application to my forehead, hairline: I HAD COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN that I was wearing Spaceland!!!
NOT the way I wanted my interactions to go, but, sharing with you the IMPORTANCE of keeping in mind the self effects of the mones.
As to your question of AMMO, yes, the Summer Edition has a label stating that it is… Summer Edition. I have both the regular AMMO and SE.
I’ve just checked my bottle of Ammo again, it just says “Ammunition” and “for him” in small letters under it. Nothing about Summer Edition. So I got the normal stuff?
I suppose it doesn’t really matter, as my understanding is that SE is basically normal Ammo with some molecules from i.s. in it; So if I’m using i.s. anyway, the final effect will be similar to S.E.?
Thanks!
Nope. Normal Ammo. Oh, well, I’ll just up the IS a little.
Incidentally, as I’m 56 and the lady in question is (ahem) approaching 40, I’m wondering if I might need to start straight off with Ammo, but just 1 spray (1x strength) to each wrist?
edit; 7omislav - I’m sorry for hijacking your thread. That was rude of me. The whole point we are both talking about is HOW WELL you know the people you are going to come in to contact with when starting out with mones. It seems that if they know you well, you have to start out with low doses, and work up slowly.
Apologies again.
In my short experience with pheromones, mixes and usual amounts of standalone products are great for new people, standalone products are great for people you’ve known for awhile in tiny, tiny doses. If you’ve known people for awhile, they WILL KNOW something isn’t quite right with you. I’m really trying to develop some good research on this and see what standalone products are good to use with people you have pre-developed relationships with and which ones just cause negative effects. Interesting read though. I like the “blank paper” idea.
I think I’m going to compromise - at work this morning I’m going to try ONE spray from 24 inches of 1x Ammo on my left inner forearm only. (I wear short sleeved shirts at work). On my right inner forearm I’ll try ONE spray of i.s., with another spray of i.s. to my jawline for self-effects.
Everyone at work knows me very well, so I’ll be tracking their reactions with interest!
Identifiers and Signaler mones and mixes. Most pheromones we use are a bit of both but do lean more toward one or the other.
An identifier tells something about you. A314 is more of a identifier. People behave in response to what its saying about you.
A signaler evokes an emotion. Ishine is more of a signaler. It speaks more about how you feel at that moment not who you are.
Its true that strangers and causal acquaintances respond more quickly to mones simply because they are unused to our signatures.
When you wear identifiers around those close to you it takes some time for them to work. These people we closely spend time with everyday have preconceived notions about our character. It takes repeated exposure to reprogram those notions.
Since signalers speak more about mood people respond quickly whether they know you or not.
People at work know you and have preconceived notions.
I assume you just met the prime minister and he has no notion about you until that identifying signal hit him.
I am not saying your A314 wont work around your coworkers but you need to expose them to it repeatedly so they can form new notions about you. Your behavior is going to help that process along. Do not confuse strong leader with bossy.
No its not. Women would probably be creeped out by a sexual vibe in this environment unless you work in a club or something more casual.
You find with both Ishine and Ammo. Ammo is balanced well with both identifiers and signalers so while its saying something about your masculinity its also signaling comfort and ease. Tuth on the other hand screams " I am man, I am in my prime… let the rutting begin" LOL
Side note totally off subject. I love men who say reckon, its hot
Today, I tried the single shot from 24" of Ammo to one arm, 2 shots of I.S. around my jaw, and a very light spray of my normal cologne (Only the Brave by Diesel) to my right arm.
I didn’t notice any different behaviour from my co-workers at first; my favorite lady seemed to be normal, although a bit stressed out with some issues of her own at home over the weekend. (Her ex. is back in town for a bit and making waves). But after about 2 hours, she started her usual banter, but with a sort of quizzical expression on her face, as if she wasn’t sure how I’d take her insults. (we insult each other all the time). After about 4 hours she’d loosened up a bit more and seemed to be more normal, but still more hesitant than usual.
From what you said above, I should keep the exact same dose for the rest of this week, and let everyone at work re-configure their perceptions of me. Then I could gradually edge up the dose of Ammo, maybe in a week or 2.
Really interesting, how the dose should be set by how well your target knows you - and that even your closest friends will “re-calibrate” their perceptions, given a little time.
