Ok just received my first order this morning and very excited!
So this is what im starting with:
1-A314
1-IShine togo
1-IH togo
1-IO togo
1-TUTH togo
1-Ammo togo
Gift=IG togo Thank you very much
So now im going to try as hard as possible to follow the sweet spot rule and not go crazy Now im thinking of starting with the A314 one drop for today and not sure if I should use it with 1 other or by itself? Plus being a stay at home dad its hard to really get out in the field so to say so most of my beginning tests with prob be with my wife, and maybe at a store hear and there.
Any suggestions from the pros would be great. I guess the main question is do we start with A314 by itself or is it known fact that it needs to be used with a IShine, IH type of mix??
Thanks for the quick reply, I had a feeling most used it not as a standalone but I was second guessing myself as if it needed to be alone to find the sweet spot.
1d A314 split wrist and behind ears
2s IS split forearm and neck
2s IH split forearm and neck
Went to two locations for a variety test
1st Asian food market no known hits and no complements
2nd Trader Joes so I can test the 20-40 age range and dominant white population, again no hits…so I think I might need more of something. Dont think I was OD yet because I didnt get any bad responses just the typical hellos and smiles.
Side note: I love the smell so far clean and not offensive.
My wife has not come home yet so I dont know if I should wait it out and see what she says or do I adjust my dose before she gets here?
Ok so I didnt get chance to shower before she got home so since my first app was at noon I decided to apply 2 IH one to head and one to chest and see if something happens…of course nothing does and it seems to be a normal night.
Now it is mid way through that time of month for my wife and I was a little hesitant on going for the TUTH but at this point the frustration is kicking in because no one has said one word all day and I can clearly smell it on myself. So after she is home about 2 hours she decides to take a shower and while she is in there I do 1 TUTH to chest and 1 Ammo to stomach. No although not a bad smell but very strong on the cologne scent and I was like she is so calling me out on this. Ok now she is out of the tub I make sure we are hugging and her head is by my chest, then in the bed we cuddle and again place her head near the mones. NOTHING!!! After about 5-10 minutes she says are you wearing cologne and im like well I did earlier and she was like it smells strong. So I go does it smell bad and she says no just strong, but everyones smelled strong today maybe its my period.
So I have used 5 different products today and not 1 100% hit, I hope things start to pick up.
Yanno I think I’m gonna just post a link in my sig to the Steve’s thread for finding your sweet spot. Seriously guys those things cling to skin, you apply too much signal or too many different signals and it’s like eating in a cafeteria and trying to understand each and every conversation going on around you. It just becomes a dull roar nothing specific is picked up.
Now so that you don’t go dismissing and saying “awww this stuff doesn’t work” follow these instructions.
1.) STOP and actually think about how people normally act around you. How do the people you see daily usually act. Who tends to be talkative, who’s quiet? Who treats you with respect, does anyone treat you with disrespect or even indifference?
Then strangers, on average how often to people initiate conversation? How often to women make eye contact and smile etc. It’s little things like this that are normal hits. You will NOT get the axe effect.
2.) Follow Steve’s instructions for finding your sweet spot for each product ONE AT A TIME! Guess what? every motor oil on the market says it’s best for your engine, would you grab 5 assorted bottles of different brands and more importantly, different weights and dump it in your engine expecting your car to run like an italian sports car? Of course not. Try each product one at a time. Pick one, then wear ONE and only one spray per day for three days. You can refresh with another spray but only after about 5 hours.
Take two days off and then go three days with a 2 spray dose…then two days off and then try a three spray dose.
Actually go out to as many different public places as possible and interact with as many people as possible. Not everyone is responsive to mones so testing on a small handful of people won’t give you an accurate result. Testing each product one at a time is also important because different people might respond differently to different mones. Their age, personality, current mood at the moment, social conditioning, genetics, YOUR personality, your body chemistry etc all play factors in what kind of results you might get.
Once you figure out your sweet spot ex: (I get nothing with one spray, decent results with two sprays, awesome results with three sprays, bad/no results with 4…I guess 3 sprays is my sweet spot) for each individual product, then you can start playing with mixes.
Start with what you know to be your sweet spot for each product (ex 1 spray IH with 2 sprays Ammo) and if results are less than stellar pick a product to bump up or down in dosage for the next time.
Save A314 for last with testing. It’s imo the single best product AD makes but it’s a bit more subtle in effect and the effects are cumulative. Look at it this way, when I started playing with A314 I was convinced it was useless. I saw no major changes.
But I spent good money on it and figured Id keep wearing it. After about a week, almost the two week mark I noticed in hindsite that things had changed. But little by little under the radar changes. Wear A314 every day and tomorrow you won’t notice much different about your life…look back after a month and the difference is huge!
Its clear you guys haven’t really paid any attention to what has been said over and over in the responses to your questions starting at the introduction and so on.
It is also said as a response in almost every thread that gets posted about someone not seeing hits…DID YOU DO THE SWEET SPOT TESTING.
No one here can help you, if you don’t first help yourself. Read the stickys at the top of the forum…well read the forum. I spent days in this forum reading anything and everything I could that detailed how to use these things.
I know this is a men’s issue. We don’t like to read instructions, we just like to delve into things head first and figure it out as we go along. But you’re just gonna end up wasting money and valuable time using that process here. What will most likely happen is you’ll get frustrated and move onto the next quick fix that you’re looking for and not experience some really great things.
FIX THIS ISSUE WITH YOURSELVES NOW, because it is an issue in your life, and a reason as to why you’re not experiencing happiness in other aspects of your life.
I say this only because I know that this issue carries over into my life to some degree if I don’t stay focused and see a project through.
Anyway, slow down, take a breath tomorrow is a new day. Start over from the very beginning with 1 product and start sweet spot testing…if you don’t..don’t come back here whining about things not working nor not seeing hits, it’s your own faults.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I find you guys posts a bit ridiculous to say the least.
Listen to the Radman! Slow down. Your wife already has a mindset as to what she feels around you. A few drops of synthetic sweat aren’t going to change that in a single moment. Effects are subtle. You were probably giving off a vibe that you were up to something and the smell of a new cologne made it worse. Wear small amounts until she gets used to it and just wear one thing at a time. A314 is pretty complex. adding the others to it makes it different and unpredictable until you have a better feel foir what is happening.
Good newbie baptism though. Don’t worry, practically all of us did it just that way. Have fun and don’t give up. find my old newbie tricks thread…I made all the mistakes! LOL.
if u want to become a believer, I suggest you use 3x AMMO + 2x IH at work (or anywhere else except church, lol) and start conversations with girls that you have seen around but had not chance to get to know well. you should see some results!
You’ve been given all the info you need, it is up to you now to follow the advice. We all want to help. I think you saw that with all the responses to your posts. There is only so much we can do, we can’t do your sweet spot testing for you, we can’t change your attitude, all we can do is type away here on a forum, and that’s been done.
The rest is up to you now. Read the stickys up at the top of the forum, read the sweet spot testing thread written up by Steve, I promise you that you will be so much happier if you did. You will eventually figure this all out, but it will be at a cost there is no need for you to pay if you continue to choose the more difficult path.
Slow down, take a breath, this is a marathon and not a race.
I admit I might of had a little bit of a baptism moment but I did not think I went all that crazy, when I had only 2d residual A314 from 8+ hours earlier and then at the time refreshed with 2 IH, 1 ammo and 1 tuth not all that major of a combo but I will try it over again 1 at a time.
Now I have mixed reviews I put a post out specifically about starting with A314 and since I read not for use alone I was asking if I should mix it in the beginning with a IS, IH type and was told yes?
Now RADMAN has a good point to wait and use it last, so is this something I should do and begin with only ammo and hold off on A314?
that would be my advice. Mainly for two primary reasons.
The carrier. Alcohol diffuses faster than oil so you will notice hits faster and easier with an alc based product than an equal amount of oil based product.
The nature of the products purpose. Ammo is a general “all around” attraction based product. A314 is a “trust and respect” product. Now both will begin effecting people upon exposure but visible effects are slower with A314 for this simple reason. Attraction can be felt instantly. A person can look at a member of the opposite sex and feel some level of attraction immediately. Or at least acknowledge that the person is attractive.
Respect, trust, the willingness to follow another persons instructions and give them the responsibility of a dominant leadership position over you? Yeah, they may feel the inclination, and recognize you from an evolutionary standpoint as an alpha male. But their willingness to recognize that position will take a combination of cumulative exposure over time and congruent behavior on your part.
Now im thinking of starting with the A314 one drop for today and not sure if I should use it with 1 other or by itself? Plus being a stay at home dad its hard to really get out in the field so to say so most of my beginning tests with prob be with my wife, and maybe at a store hear and there.
I guess the main question is do we start with A314 by itself or is it known fact that it needs to be used with a IShine, IH type of mix??
