P102 not for socializing?

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I recently purchased P102 and can’t wait for it to arrive. From reading reports I understand it is an auditory enhancer and a laser like focus enhancer.

This could be good for the private detective, musician, someone critiquing a musical cd etc. But what about social effects? I know its not designed like my trustworthy Ammo/IS social combo, but if I wear P102 to a party I am going to play guitar at will I come across as antisocial too much (laser like hearing, not really looking at people) , or will people still pay attention to the music if I seem to be in my own world? I understand it would be great for practice sessions, or when a band is on stage, your not really into socializing, but at a party there is a time when I’d want to get out of laser like focus mode and also make the guests at home.

What would be the best transition from p102 then? Does it mix with other social or sexual mones? Has anyone tried testing it out that way?

Dsouza

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If I’m not wrong, Pagodeiro reported that p102 makes girls act upon their urges and or removes LMR and closes distances of sorts.

I suppose your question should be directed to

  1. Those who have used p102
  2. Musicians who might hypothesize what p102 would do
  3. Musicians who have played under the influence of p102 (LSD the drug of inventors, p102 the drug of composers)

I don’t think the mones will “Make you” zoned out or totally into your music or create a antisocial shroud/bubble around you. I can imagine how Gegogi might answer you on this

Mones act as an enhancer, a lubricant. It doesn’t make you do things. You make the final call, you make the final decision, especially since you are AWARE that you have mones on you. Although I think there still are those mones that literally make people behave out of the ordinary (like the legendary mx353, so I heard)

If you know you’re wearing p102 at the party and don’t want to seem “anti-social” then don’t. Play a couple of songs, get the attention of a couple of girls, stop, go grab some drinks, socialise, make them feel at home, chat up a girl you’re interested in, go dedicate and play a song to her, make her swoon and then get back to your party.

The key is to be aware, self-aware and socially-aware, or you could think of it as p102 helping you to be focused on being self and socially aware.

If you’re really concerned on how p102 will work on you, try it out first. Wear it for a day, two days, three days. Wear it while working on your music. Ask your bandmates for their opinion on how you reacted around them. Wear it to work, to school. Just try it out and see how it works on you.

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Why do you want your judgement to be clouded by others perspective ? use it with an open mind and find out. I have seen that sometimes you get totally opposite results from putatives than reported by others… go with an open mind… note results objectively and let us know.

Hope to see a post from you on the results soon since you have purchased it already

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Since we are using putatives that may be foreign to our nature sometimes we get self effects with them. The self effect you get which are short lived because you know your own nature, really only indicates part of what the people exposed may be feeling and how they will respond when exposed to you and the putative.

P102 sharpens the senses. So in relation to you and P102 people will be more attentive, more focused on you, have more clarity when observing your performance. Now it can be social and expressive for some people and for others make them seem more introspective. Not really anti social but more in a reflective inward mood because they are enjoying the way the music and the putative makes them feel. Since the music and the intrinsic vibe is coming from you they will associate the feeling to you.

So as Johnny mentioned you have control over where you want that vibe to go by altering your own behavior.

If you want people to focus more on you quietly while you play then be quiet and play. Engage your introspective side. Think Kurt Cobain, minus the suicide and drug addiction of course. Excellent artist with deep introspect.

If you want more social interaction, pull out of that introspective mood and open up.

You can steer it with your behavior. Some people have very little control of there own moods and some do. Thats one of the reasons I love meditation so much. It puts you in deeper touch and control of your thoughts and moods. Anywhoo… There is another option though if steering it with you behavior is something you not sure you can do right now. Use a additional pheromone or mix to steer it for you.

If your going to a party and you want to mingle and for people to focus there senses on you then use IO or Ishine with it to steer it.

If you want them to focus there senses on you in a sexual manner use TUTH or Ammo.

Keep in mind when developing a good combo or mix. You work around the primary vibe you intending to send.

So P102 would be your primary and then you layer much smaller amounts of the products you want to steer that vibe.

While there is no wrong way or right way to use mones there is a more effective and less effective way. I see two many people using high amounts of similar putatives or mixes and giving to many primary vibes which just, IMO, makes your vibe sort of unstable and almost bipolar. (I am talking about the vibe being bipolar not the person) This confuses people. Pick one main signal and enhance that signal with smaller amounts of other putatives to prevent overpowering the prime vibe.

Hope that made sense to you LOL

Tisha

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In other words, don’t use ketchup when you already have a globful of mustard and barbeque sauce on your hotdog.

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I’m sure she meant not to skip the ketchup , just not to let it overpower the mustard and barbecue sauce; writing of which is making me think of mones for barbecues now LOL!
:smiley:

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Tisha States:

Since we are using putatives that may be foreign to our nature sometimes we get self effects with them. The self effect you get which are short lived because you know your own nature, really only indicates part of what the people exposed may be feeling and how they will respond when exposed to you and the putative.

P102 sharpens the senses. So in relation to you and P102 people will be more attentive, more focused on you, have more clarity when observing your performance. Now it can be social and expressive for some people and for others make them seem more introspective. Not really anti social but more in a reflective inward mood because they are enjoying the way the music and the putative makes them feel. Since the music and the intrinsic vibe is coming from you they will associate the feeling to you.

So as Johnny mentioned you have control over where you want that vibe to go by altering your own behavior.

If you want people to focus more on you quietly while you play then be quiet and play. Engage your introspective side. Think Kurt Cobain, minus the suicide and drug addiction of course. Excellent artist with deep introspect.

If you want more social interaction, pull out of that introspective mood and open up.

You can steer it with your behavior. Some people have very little control of there own moods and some do.

Adrian States –>Tisha I find I have little control over my moods as I have acute bipolar syndrome , depression, anxiety, etc which leads me to believe I am a mood catcher and by nature for me to be in a good and productive or initiating mood I need mones to steer me. The instrinsic nature of the illness means I am not in control of my moods.

Thats one of the reasons I love meditation so much. It puts you in deeper touch and control of your thoughts and moods. Anywhoo… There is another option though if steering it with you behavior is something you not sure you can do right now. Use a additional pheromone or mix to steer it for you.

Tisha States: If your going to a party and you want to mingle and for people to focus there senses on you then use IO or Ishine with it to steer it.

Adrian States–>I’m a big believer in 3 product mix max, and out of which 1-2 molecules or mone(s) should be the main contributors like you stated. I’m not sure what to steer it with. I bought p102 in akuto so I feel it will be fine to mix with my ammo akuto or IS.

If you want them to focus there senses on you in a sexual manner use TUTH or Ammo.

Keep in mind when developing a good combo or mix. You work around the primary vibe you intending to send.

So P102 would be your primary and then you layer much smaller amounts of the products you want to steer that vibe.

While there is no wrong way or right way to use mones there is a more effective and less effective way. I see two many people using high amounts of similar putatives or mixes and giving to many primary vibes which just, IMO, makes your vibe sort of unstable and almost bipolar. Tisha States (I am talking about the vibe being bipolar not the person) This confuses people. Pick one main signal and enhance that signal with smaller amounts of other putatives to prevent overpowering the prime vibe.

Adrian States –> Tisha ironic the bipolar disorder and vibe should come up since I have both acute disorders :slight_smile:

Hope that made sense to you LOL

Adrian States –> As much as a delicious hot dog with lots of ketchup, some mustard, and little relish… LOL!

Dsouza

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Leave it to a man to think with his stomach LOL (((p51))) :smiley: Yes that analogy works.

I like to use color

http://i.msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC165608.jpg

From one primary color you can make many other interesting and attractive colors depending on the ratio of other color you add to it. You can still see the primary color through the nuances of the secondary color.

Red and yellow make orange …Green and blue make aqua. Etc Etc

But mix all those colors together equally and you get a murky black. You can not see the nuances of the other colors anymore.

I know and I mean no offence by it which is why I added the part about the vibe not the person. I am sorry if I did offend you though.
If you look in the ladies section I give them the same advice but tell them they come off like “sybil” when they send to make opposing signals or lump to many together in the same ratios. Ever see that movie ??

Tisha

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wow tisha what an amazing analogy. i love it. i can use this concept/analogy many different ways. also i plan on trying some p102 soon,seems different from any thing i’ve heard of or used . maybe a little like taf with p86??

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P102 may be scary… hearing loud crickets chirping, clocks from far away, etc is like having a super power. Perhaps its hypnotic in a way. Let’s see how I report back. I am sure I will like it though, for guitar playing alone if not anything else. It will really help me pay attention to the FEEDBACK I get from the amplifier as I play, which will then have an effect on how on choose to play (hit strings harder, change tempo etc). At the same time the crowd will here things at normal level, am I correct? or does p102 make others get super hearing too?

dsouza

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Its hard to descibe. It doesnt really make sound louder. It makes it more clear and crisp and you register it more. So yes others should hear things at a normal volume.

Tisha

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I really should document todays log before I forget it. I wore P102 30 mg in akuto . Within 10 min I noticed I was hearing things louder that I never picked up on before.

Things were looking good but I didn’t like the fact that I was in my own world.

Then I met my SO. The first thing she said is she feels tuned out in her mind. She is always alert. Then over dinner she tried to get my attention while I was laser like introverted focused on tv and sounds an it was annoying me, and it annoyed her that I could not break out of this single minded focus.

So I went to washroom washed it all off. Suddenly she says to me, when you went to the washroom my mind was clear again. Is it something your wearing? (She knows I experiment with mones). I told her I wiped off some residue of mones and she said she felt tuned out again. This time I went to the washrrom and used soap.

The problem was solved. Suddenly I wasn’t in my own world anymore. Suddenly I felt wide focus, humour etc and we had a normal conversation.

Later in the night I went home and tossed on 2 sprays of double strength IS before going out to brighten my mood after the p102 messed it up. Results were good. All the young 25 year old women were checking me out , smiling etc. It was a lot of fun.

Perhaps p102 is not for me, or perhaps I am using too much dosage. i did 30 mg or 3 sprays of 10 mg. The scent alone may of been too much and affected my mind and hers.

I’m kinda stuck here. I don’t want to repeat the same experiment. Any ideas how I should tailer the mix differently? Any other users report the same problem?

I like the hearing, I hate the introversion and narrow focus. Perhaps good if you just want to be left alone, which I definitely don’t need.

dsouza

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Wow, thanks for takin’ one for the team… That was a tough one. Have you tried just (1) spray?

10 mu… to see if it does the same? If not too bad, you then, try it with IS to direct it towards a fun vibe focused on you…

I’m interested to see what you find, dsouza!!! :slight_smile:

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P102 another trial.

I wore it again today with IS to buffer this time getting p102 to only 2 sprays.

INTROVERSION bigtime. This is not good for my acute bipolar. I thought I would have a good time just focusing on sounds and stuff but this stuff actually effects my mood in a negative way. Makes me introverted too much and then I can’t even break out of it I am effected by the product and illness to such a degree.

I’ve learned to stick with mones that help with social behaviors as acute bipolar illness is not something you want to add antisocial mones too.

Looks like I’m looking at getting a refund back on this product or even better a credit from the store if its for the same amount as I shop for other fine products like IS, AMMO, and a314 at AD.

I will not tolerate any more testing of p102 and my SO agrees. I had to wash it off right away but the effects still lasted. If I was an extrovert I guess it would help at times but I have the opposite problem.

I am hoping p83 that I ordered will do me good. I haven’t noticed any positives from that one so far but then again its been just a week. At least that one doesn’t tune me out. But the cologne reek from the akuto in p83 of 3 sprays of 10 mg is so bad my SO says to wash it off evertime she smells it.

I really don’t want to have to return p83 it sounds decent but maybe I could get some tips from you pros how to avoid the reek from all that cologne mixed with other AD products. I use it with shine and ammo and ammo is in akuto too.

I have also started working out intensely. I learned to stay away from ANY mones on those days as my body temp goes to the ceiling and I disperse the mones to the point it causes confusion in my senses and others instead of helping me.

dsouza

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Agreed. I recieved a sample of this and it is NOT good for socializing… it made me focus on other things which were distracting me from being myself. ALTHOUGH, it did seem to make me the focus of attention for other people.

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I agree p102 increases hearing. I was in class and heard the girls behind me whispering more then normal. Maybe I was just focused on their convo. Not sure but it definitely pumped up my senses.

I think it tuned me out to alot though, so much I didnt really see if anyone else was reacting to it.

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Hello everyone. Just wondering where do you apply P102?. I spray it on my hand and wipe it on my face. However when I do that my faces starts to flush red for about 2 min. But do not notice any differences in myself or others. Maybe my body rejects p102 not sure

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Best thing is to keep testing. If the flushing still continues, you can have option to continue wearing it. However, if it’s your first time wearing it, it’s probably your brain just adjusting to it. It takes time for others to get used to certain mones.