I have tried P74 two times at 20 mcg and get a drunk feel from it. 
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Does anyone else feel this and does the self effect get better with time?
I tried out a 30mcg shot of p74 over the weekend (2 x 7.5mcg split wrists, 1 x 7.5 mcg neck and 1 shot in hair) applied over 2 drops of a314 split wristsā¦no drunk feeling hereā¦I felt pretty calm/relaxed/laid back with this mix but i was feeling kinda like this before application as well so it was hard to tell of additional self effects.
I also forgot to mention that during this time i had a cold so this could limit some of the effects.
Iāve used p74 in moderation, and personally I have never quite noted any sort of intoxicating effect from it.
Although I can say that just about every time I have ever used the stuff I have ended up feeling ridiculously tired afterward. I suppose the stuff has a propensity to burn out my neurotransmitters.
i havenāt noticed the drunken effect from p74, even up to 60mcgs but i do from p123 every time.
I like P74, but if I use much more than 10mcg, I get an uncomfortable buzz like I have been drinking too much caffeine. I have not noticed this changing as I continue to use P74 over time.
P74 for me is a headliner. it goes in almost every mix i make. Its cool, people want to be around me, and the laughing has more of an uncontrolable giggle aspect to it. simply wonderful.
Certainly no drunk feeling and I commonly go up to 100mcgsā¦as you use it more you may notice the self effects die down
Thanks everyone for the info
I will be giving P74 some more tests.
I had a megahit using p74ā¦ Maybe a one time thing, maybe not (I had also used a small amount of tuth and IS a few hours prior, but likely insignificant given the mix had over 200mcg of p74).
It literally had me saying āwhat would your boyfriend think about that!ā Definite, 100% boyfriend effect, very āvibeā inducing. I had a togo of like 40mcg per spray so I must have been drenched in it.
SinisterSam,
Could you go into more detail about your hit and dosing? Iāve never tried that much p74 and iād like to know more of the little things you observed.
I know Iām late to the party, but just for the record, my nickle.
Iāve used up to 30mcg P74. I get the camaraderie from others but I donāt get the intoxicated effect. I didnāt get much from it when wearing it alone. But thatās not unusual, for me, when testing putatives. I notice effects better when I pair it with something else I know well. For self effects, I feel rather cool, calm and together when wearing it.
I know what youāre saying, Soul Manā¦the stuff is hella, crashes harder/burns me outā¦more than any other pheromone, even TAF. I know some people crash from Instant Shine, as well. When I first started using pheromones, one day while placing an order, I had a conversation with Jasmin. We were talking about TAF, deciding what mcgs I should order. She tells me TAF is one of those that really messes with your neurotransmitters so make sure to ārestā 3-4 days in between uses. So I guess some of us are more sensitive in this respect. Like a lot of people I, sometimes, donāt get enough sleep, but Iām in good shape and eat wellā¦so, I dunno. And I always make sure to take my vitamins, especially the Bās. 
I know people have been testing P74 a lot lately. Besides you, Tmos and me I havenāt seen anybody else post about P74 kickinā their a**ā¦have you guys?
tfrankz, sometimes you just need to acclimate yourself. Try a lesser dose and spray away from your face and see if that helps. Do that a few times and then if allās well step it up. If not, then it may not be for you.
So josef, how much P123 does it take to get you snockered? 
Are you still testing it?
Warren is buzzināā¦lolā¦is it like an androstenol buzz? I havenāt noticed that with P74, but too much androstenol does that to me.
Bella
Yeah, sure. Basically, it was one of the first times I had used pheros so I really wanted to max it outā¦ I saw an old hs friend who I usually just chat with for a couple minutes max. She called me over and at that point the self-effects were still pretty enormous (had applied the concoction maybe 2-3 hours before), and a couple IS 2x hits to the face). Just to clarify, I had sprayed the tuth to my chest and forearm hours before with the IS to face and hair, but I sprayed and spreaded around tons of p74 to my arms and forearms, neck, wrist, hair (with the 40mcg bottle too. It must have been at least 5 sprays, or 200mcg). Probably not the best use of pheros, but at least I found out they worked.
But getting back to the story, I sat down next to her and a couple minutes later I told her I was gonna leave to go do some boring stuff. Definite strangeness ensued; She insisted on following me, and did just that, tracing each and every step until she had to leave 4+ hours later (to be picked up by her bf haha!!). It was clear that the p74 was eliciting the āboyfriend effectā, because she kept demanding that I put my arm around her (the āwhat would he thinkā comment came here) and then later there was an abnormally slow goodbye kiss (which she wanted returned and got it - again, this had never happened before). There were tons of ālittle thingsā that were out of the ordinary. It was in her eyes too, mine as well probably. Just a really intense, unmistakable, sparkling vibeā¦ Kind of weird, a bit hard to fully explain (very out of the ordinary behavior for her, and me - in fact, the whole day is kind of a blur b/c I was so stoned on massive amounts of pheros). It was almost unethical actually :0 Iām kind of glad there was very little tuth in that mix (not to mention the fact that we were at school in the middle of the day) because I really donāt like to get involved with friends like her (even if she is a 10 haha). I canāt wait until my bitchy ex-gf comes back in November then we will see if something like tuth really really works haha. Hell just might freeze over :]
Yeah, sure. Basically, it was one of the first times I had used pheros so I really wanted to max it outā¦ I saw an old hs friend who I usually just chat with for a couple minutes max. She called me over and at that point the self-effects were still pretty enormous (had applied the concoction maybe 2-3 hours before), and a couple IS 2x hits to the face). Just to clarify, I had sprayed the tuth to my chest and forearm hours before with the IS to face and hair, but I must have sprayed tons of p74 to my arms and forearms, neck, wrist, hair (with the 40mcg bottle too. I must have been at least 5 sprays, or 200mcg). Probably not the best use of pheros, but at least I found out they worked.
But getting back to the story, I sat down next to her and a couple minutes later tell her I gotta leave to do some boring stuff. Definite strangeness ensued; She insisted on following me, and did just that, tracing each step until she had to leave 3+ hours later (to be picked up by her bf haha!!). It was clear that the p74 was eliciting the āboyfriend effectā, because she kept demanding that I put my arm around her (the āwhat would he thinkā comment came here) and then later there was an abnormally slow goodbye kiss (which she wanted returned and got it - again, this had never happened before). There were tons of ālittle thingsā that were out of the ordinary. It was in her eyes too, mine as well probably. Just a really intense, unmistakable, sparkling vibeā¦ Kind of weird, a bit hard to fully explain (very out of the ordinary behavior for her, and me). It was almost unethical actually :0 Iām kind of glad there was very little tuth in that mix (not to mention the fact that we were at school in the middle of the day) because I really donāt like to get involved with friends like her. Even if she is a 10 haha. I canāt wait until my bitchy ex-gf comes back in November then we will see if tuth really really works haha. Hell just might freeze over. But the p74 definitely works, especially with some IS on top. āIntoxicatingā is 100% how I would describe it in terms of self-effects. Itās basically a euphoria-inducing love potion at the higher doses, from what I have observed on multiple occasions with multiple people. Strong vibe-creating and bonding effects, lots of mutual feeling. Itās pretty good stuff.
Ah tried da whole damn togo bottle ān 2 trials ān didnāt feel ah friggen thang. Not dat ah expected or wanted ta, but ah wiz hoping ta observe sum heavy action outta mah targets ān got zip. Nuttinā dumber den fallinā on yoā own frickinā sword. If ah wanna git drunk ah sucks down Jack Daniels.
But, yeah, ah agrees wiz sweet Bella, these things usually go better paired wiz another mone yoā know well. Trouble is mah togo ran out before ah got ta dat stage.
iāve tried p123 on 4 separate occasions now, each time late in the afternoon (typically walking in the door from work) and after opening a nice cold chang beer. iāve noticed that it really magnifies the alcohol āeffectā for me. it usually takes 4-5 quarts (6.4% alc.) to get pretty buzzed but after just one quart and 50-60mcgās p123 i feel the same as if iād consumed those 4-5 beers.
each time iāve tried it, same result. i tested it once in the morning upon waking up (no beer 
) and still felt a bit sluggish. this one in particular affects me more directly than any other iāve tried.
Yes, I still notice effects on others - mild ones- when I wear P74 alone - and then when I wear it with Ishine it absolutely makes a tremendous difference from just Ishine alone. Not an intoxicated effect, but there is a nice synergy going on with P74/Ishine that is really exceptionalā¦ like a cool, social buzz.
Bella Iāll take that nickle.
I used P74 on wrists and with 2 shots CTTM back neck, and 2 AMMO shots front neck.
Later that night I went to a club, got a drink and was there about 15-20 mins. Three girls pulled out camera and tried to line up their friend so I was in the picture. I said you want a picture of me just ask me!!
I like IO and IH and use them a lot, but Iāve never gotten what Iād call a buzz from them. It was more like Iād had too much espresso, almost jittery. This has happened several times with P74. In fact, when Iām driving P74 is almost an adequate substitute for coffee to stay alert.